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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 11:40 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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My concern is justice....the sloppy and expansive definitions used by the state are not conducive to getting justice, and neither is the states practice of sending out press releases with the purpose of vilifying the accused.


Could not agree more.............


I am convinced that our ranks will grow. I am no where near cynical enough nor despondent enough about the moral fiber of America to believe that the Firefly's of this world will be successful in calling for our hatred of the accused to rub out any concern for how we treat people. People are more good than bad, people generally believe in the golden rule....our unjust "justice" system will not stand. Her continual assertion that those who care about how the state treats those accused of sex crimes are defective is ludicrous, because in a just and civilized world everyone cares about how those who are accused of crimes are treated. The Achilles heal of her tactic is that most people want to believe that they are good, that they are civilized......they dont want to throw in with the haters and fear-mongers like Firefly.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 08:56 am
@hawkeye10,
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Her continual assertion that those who care about how the state treats those accused of sex crimes are defective is ludicrous,


Yes. her positions and tactics can be both amusing and sad at the same time.

If you do not agree with boiling a wrong doer in oil over a slow fire then you yourself must be doing similar behaviors.

Even in the case of where the majority of Federal judges agree that a punishment is too harsh she still go right ahead with this kind of attack.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:10 am
@hawkeye10,
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in a just and civilized world everyone cares about how those who are accused of crimes are treated.

That's why our system guarantees due process of law to all those charged with crimes.

And that homeless man who raped the 83 year old woman who was trying to offer him aid and assistance is receiving due process.

In a "just and civilized world" people do not tolerate the sexual abuse/assault of others and such behavior is rightly regarded as criminal and it is punished accordingly.



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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:11 am
@firefly,
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“Don’t drink too much and walk out by yourself


Hell we can not tell a woman that it is a good idea as an adult to control her drinking so she can make better judgments on the sexual activities that she willingly take part in.

It is far better for her to have sex that without alcohol in her blood stream she end up regretting afterward and crying rape on her sexual partner under the theory that it is his responsibility to act as her sexual guardian and judge if she might regret the sex with a lower BAC or not.

Women are children and have not duty to act for themselves in their own best interest in the area of sexuality that is the message the Fireflies of the world are trying to sell,
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:45 am
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911 call during rape leads to arrest
BY CARLI TEPROFF The Miami Herald
Febryary 13, 2012

As a Coral Springs woman was being raped, she managed to call 911 and leave the line open so police could pinpoint her location and catch her attacker.

On a beautiful South Florida night, a new mother had left the back sliding glass door open to let in the fresh air.

In came danger: an intruder, hoping to burglarize the home.
But once inside, the would-be burglar spotted the 25-year-old woman with her baby and his motives changed.

Holding a knife to the woman, he beat, choked, raped and sodomized her as the newborn lay on the bed. “That’s a huge leap — from burglarizing a home to attacking a woman,” said Coral Springs Sgt. Dave Kirkland.

The victim’s own quick thinking helped police locate her attacker before he could leave the neighborhood: During the attack, she managed to call police from her cell phone, leaving the line open so police could trace it.
As dispatchers heard the assaults taking place, they were able to begin pinpointing where the call was coming from.

“It’s unbelievable that she had the presence of mind with everything going on to call 911,” said Kirkland.

Gary L. Holmes, 19, has been charged with three counts of armed sexual battery, two counts of armed burglary and one count of petit theft. Holmes, of Pompano Beach, is being held at the Broward County Jail without bond.
Police are not releasing the name of the victim because of the nature of the crime.

According to the arrest affidavit, Holmes came into the home through the back door about 8 p.m. Sunday.
At first, he demanded that the woman give him her valuables. Then he pushed her to the bedroom floor where she attempted to fight him off.
Her hands were bloodied from the fight, police said. Holmes forced her to the kitchen to wash up before leading her into another bedroom and forcing her on the bed.
Afterward, he dragged her to the hallway, pushed her to the ground and sexually assaulted her for a third time while continuing to punch her face and choke her, police said.

As Holmes was fleeing, he saw the woman’s cell phone, grabbed it and tossed it into the garbage.
But because of the woman’s quick thinking, police had set up a perimeter, using a helicopter and police dogs.
He was quickly picked up by officers, who said Holmes’ sweatshirt was stained with blood.

He admitted to the rapes, according to the police.

This is not Holmes’ first run-in with the law. According to a Florida Department of Law Enforcement report, he was arrested five times before turning 18. The first when he was just 9, when he was charged with battery against an elected official or education employee, a third degree felony. No more details were available because of his juvenile status at the time.
His other arrests included striking a principal, strong-armed robbery, burglary and battery. Because the court records are sealed, no other information is available.

Kirkland, with the Coral Springs Police Department, said the woman was treated for non-life threatening injuries, and the baby was not injured. “The only way to describe what happened is horrific,” he said.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/13/2640057/as-newborn-slept-coral-springs.html#storylink=cpy

Because this woman opened her back door, that was not an invitation to rape her...or to beat or burglarize her either. This woman was not "asking to be raped".
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:59 am
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Rape: A horrific global phenomenon
VERONICA PULUMBARIT
GMA News
January 29, 2012

Rape, one of the worst human rights violations, happens everywhere.

The stories are horrific: In November last year, three unidentified youths kidnapped and raped a Filipina maid in Kuwait, the news site Arab Times reported.

In Australia, just this month, a mother of four raped her own 11-year-old daughter to teach her about sex.

The newspaper Sunshine Coast Daily said the mother, 37, in a “bizarre sex education,” used her mobile phone to create three films showing her raping her youngest daughter.

Also this month in India, a 19-year-old student was gang-raped inside a moving bus before she was killed, the news site Emirates 24/7 reported.

Citing United States Department of Justice statistics (Violence against Women, 1994), the blogsite Rape Survivor Journey said in the US:

•About 25% rapes happens in a public area or in a parking garage;
•About 31% of the female victims said the rapist was a stranger, and
•In 29% of rapes, the offender used a weapon.

Violence against women

The US government site womenshealth.gov defined rape as sex that the victim does not agree to, including forcing a body part or an object into one's vagina, rectum, or mouth.

While men can also become victims of rape, majority of the victims are still women.

On the blogsite batteredmen.com, Dr. Alan W. McEvoy, Ph.D, author of “If He is Raped: A guidebook for Parents, Partners, Spouses and Friends,” said many male victims do not report being raped for “fear of being perceived as homosexual.”

McEvoy also said: “One of the greatest myths is that most male rapes occur in prison. Existing research shatters this myth.”

The United Nations (UN) defines violence against women as any act that causes “physical, sexual or mental harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts, coercion or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or in private life.”

“Violence against women takes a dismaying variety of forms, from domestic abuse and rape to child marriages and female circumcision. All are violations of the most fundamental human rights,” it said.

The UN noted that rape can occur anywhere “even in the family, where it can take the form of marital rape or incest. It occurs in the community, where a woman can fall prey to any abuser. It also occurs in situations of armed conflict and in refugee camps.”

The World Health Organization (WHO) said acts of violence against women “are major public health problems and violations of women's human rights.”

A WHO multi-country study asserted that “15–71% of women reported experiencing physical and/or sexual violence by an intimate partner at some point in their lives.”

“These forms of violence result in physical, mental, sexual, and reproductive health and other health problems, and may increase vulnerability to HIV (human immunodeficiency virus),” WHO said.

Rape, or sexual intercourse without a valid consent, is usually perpetrated by males against females. However, females may also rape males or even their fellow females. In like manner, a male may also be raped by a fellow male.

The website of the advocacy group Canadian Children's Rights Council (CCRC) said many abuses of children by women are unreported.

"Ruth Matthews, a St. Paul psychologist who has worked with 50 adolescent and 70 adult female sex offenders, says another major reason why adult female perpetrators are rarely seen in treatment is that many are mothers. In such cases, she says, dependent children are generally reluctant to turn in their mothers," the CCRC said.

Types of Rape

The US advocacy group Crisis Intervention Center identifies several types of rape:

Acquaintance rape - forced, unwanted sexual intercourse with someone a victim knows;

Stranger rape - unwanted sexual intercourse by someone the victim does not know;

Marital rape - unwanted intercourse or penetration (vaginal, anal, or oral) obtained by force or threat;

Gang rape - when a group of people rape a single victim;

Drug facilitated rape - when drugs or alcohol are used to minimize the victim's resistance;

Statutory rape - consensual sexual relations between an adult and a person below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.



Advice for rape victims

The website of the US advocacy group hopeforhealing.org said rape victims should not be ashamed of what they have experienced.

“Any shame that you feel is shame that belongs to the attacker and not to you,” the site explained.

The site also offers advice about the steps that rape victims can take:

(1) As soon as possible, go to an area where you will be safe.

(2) Call for help.

(3) Go to a hospital to check for injuries even if you do not intend to prosecute your abuser. “Sometimes injuries aren't always immediately apparent,” the site said.

(4) “Do not change your clothes(especially if you think you might file charges). Don't comb your hair, shower, use the bathroom (if possible) or change anything about yourself, until after you've had an examination by a doctor. Valuable evidence can be destroyed even by something as simple as drinking water or going to the bathroom,” it added.

(5) Be ready to answer difficult questions if you report the crime to the police. “The questions are designed to aid in the prosecution but can seem intrusive at the time,” it said.

Rape statistics

The United Nations report on "The World's Women 2010" said: "The percentage of women experiencing sexual violence at least once in their lifetime ranges from around 4% in Azerbaijan, 5% in France and 6% in the Philippines, to a quarter or more women in Switzerland (25%), Denmark (28%), Australia (34%), the Czech Republic (35%), Costa
Rica (41%) and Mexico (44%)."

In the Philippines, "girl victims of abuse outnumber boys, two to one," according to an article on violence against women and children on the National Statistical Coordination Board (NSCB) website.

"Among girls, the majority of the victims belong to the age groups 10 to below 14 and 14 to below 18; among boys, the most number of victims belong to age groups 1 to below 5 and 5 to below 10," said the article written by Dr. Romulo Virola, secretary general of the NSCB.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/246096/pinoyabroad/rape-a-horrific-global-phenomenon
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 10:45 am
@firefly,
Have the rest of you taken note that the higher the claimed numbers for sexual assaults the happier Firefly happen to be?

The numbers can be so high as to be crazy and the backing for them fall apart when someone look at them such as 25 percents or more of colleges women had been sexual assaults in the four years they spend in getting their degrees and she is overjoy.

Until this year when the feminists got to change how rape is define and ruin an 88 years old FBI database as a result the reported rapes are at a 33 years low and that did not make the Firefly or the Fireflies of the world happy at all.

Next year when they get the large bounce in the FBI rape numbers they will be overjoy and shouting the numbers from the roof tops.

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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 10:51 am
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Man gets 10 years for raping 7-year-old girl
Feb 13, 2012

A 30-year-old Ohio man accused of raping a 7-year-old girl was ordered to spend the next 10 years behind bars. He could have been sentenced to life in prison without parole.

A South Point man accused of raping a 7-year-old girl will spend the next decade in prison.

Naaman Lucas, 30, of 710 Little Solida Road, Apt. A, pleaded guilty to first-degree rape -- a charge that could have gotten him life in prison without parole. Wednesday in Lawrence County Common Pleas Court.

After a 10-year prison sentence, Lucas will have to register with the sex offender registry for life as a Tier III offender.

According to the indictment, Lucas raped the girl from January 2010 through August 2011.

Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Jeff Smith said after considering the evidence of the case and speaking with the victim's mother, the 10-year prison sentence was an appropriate resolution.
http://www.norwalkreflector.com/content/man-gets-10-years-raping-7-year-old-girl
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 11:01 am
@firefly,
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Man gets 10 years for raping 7-year-old girl


You end up spending less times behind bars for raping a child then having pictures of children being sexually harm in many cases in the US.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 11:25 am
Prostitutes also deserve to see justice done when they are raped and, in this case, that has happened because these women were brave enough to come forward.
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Alameda man convicted of Oakland rapes
By Paul T. Rosynsky
Oakland Tribune
02/08/2012

OAKLAND -- An Alameda resident who pretended to be a police officer, or at least, said he was friends with police was convicted this week of raping five prostitutes over six months in 2009.

A jury took just hours to find Gleiston Andrade, 41, guilty of six counts of forcible oral copulation and seven counts of rape in a series of attacks on prostitutes he picked up in or near Oakland.

Andrade was caught and arrested by Emeryville police after officers received information that a man had been picking up prostitutes and taking them to a parking lot in the back of an Emeryville business to rape them.

Police found Andrade in the act during a routine check of the parking lot on Oct. 6, 2009.

In addition to testimony from four victims, Deputy District Attorney Erin Kingsbury also presented DNA evidence that linked Andrade to the crimes.

"I'm very proud of the victims for coming forward," Kingsbury said. "I'm glad justice will be served."

Kingsbury said Andrade, a former police officer from Brazil, used a BB gun to force the prostitutes to perform oral sex on him before he would then rape them. After raping the victims, Andrade would tell the victims that he was a police officer or a former police officer or that he was friends with officers.

"He was trying to align himself with police in an attempt to prevent them from reporting the crimes," Kingsbury said.

Andrade will most likely spend the rest of his life in prison

When he is sentenced on March 23. He faces multiple life sentences.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_19913807


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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 11:27 am
@BillRM,
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You end up spending less times behind bars for raping a child then having pictures of children being sexually harm in many cases in the US

So, you would favor increasing the sentences in cases where a child is raped.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 12:23 pm
Men don't ask to be raped either. And the new federal definition of rape, that both Hawkeye and BillRM are protesting, will finally include sexual assaults against men in the national rape statistics. It's about time.
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The New York Times
January 23, 2012
Men Struggle for Rape Awareness
By RONI CARYN RABIN

Keith Smith was 14 when he was raped by a driver who picked him up after a hockey team meeting. He had hitchhiked home, which is why, for decades, he continued to blame himself for the assault.

When the driver barreled past Hartley’s Pork Pies on the outskirts of Providence, R.I., where Mr. Smith had asked to be dropped off, and then past a firehouse, he knew something was wrong.

“I tried to open the car door, but he had rigged the lock,” said Mr. Smith, of East Windsor, N.J., now 52. Still, he said, “I had no idea it was going to be a sexual assault.”

Even today, years after the disclosure of the still-unfolding child abuse scandal in the Catholic Church and the arrest of a former Pennsylvania State University assistant football coach accused of sexually abusing boys, rape is widely thought of as a crime against women.

Until just a few weeks ago, when the federal government expanded its definition of rape to include a wider range of sexual assaults, national crime statistics on rape included only assaults against women and girls committed by men under a narrow set of circumstances. Now they will also include male victims.

While most experts agree women are raped far more often than men, 1.4 percent of men in a recent national survey said they had been raped at some point. The study, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that when rape was defined as oral or anal penetration, one in 71 men said they had been raped or had been the target of attempted rape, usually by a man they knew. (The study did not include men in prison.)

And one in 21 said they had been forced to penetrate an acquaintance or a partner, usually a woman; had been the victim of an attempt to force penetration; or had been made to receive oral sex.

Other estimates have run even higher. A Department of Justice report found that 3 percent of men, or one in 33, had been raped. Some experts believe that one in six men have experienced unwanted sexual contact of some kind as minors.

But for many men, the subject is so discomfiting that it is rarely discussed — virtually taboo, experts say, because of societal notions about masculinity and the idea that men are invulnerable and can take care of themselves.

“We have a cultural blind spot about this,” said David Lisak, a clinical psychologist who has done research on interpersonal violence and sexual abuse and is a founding board member of 1in6, an organization that offers information and services to men who had unwanted or abusive sexual experiences as children.

“We recognize that male children are being abused,” Dr. Lisak said, “but then when boys cross some kind of threshold somewhere in adolescence and become what we perceive to be men, we no longer want to think about it in this way.”

Even when high-profile cases dominate the news, said Mai Fernandez, executive director of the National Center for Victims of Crime advocacy organization in Washington, “attention goes to the things we feel more comfortable talking about — such as whether Penn State had done enough, and what will happen to their football program — and not to the question, ‘What do we do to prevent boys from being sexually assaulted?’ ”

In an interview with The Washington Post this month, Joe Paterno, the Penn State football coach who was fired after the abuse scandal erupted and who died of lung cancer on Sunday, said that when an assistant had told him about witnessing an inappropriate encounter between a young boy and Jerry Sandusky, the former assistant coach who is facing charges of sexual abuse, he had been confused and unsure how to proceed. Mr. Paterno said the assistant “didn’t want to get specific. And to be frank with you, I don’t know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of rape and a man.”

Much of the research on the sexual assault of men has focused on prisons. But men are also raped outside of prison, usually by people they know, including acquaintances and intimate partners, but occasionally by complete strangers. They are raped as part of violent, drunken or drug-induced assaults; war crimes; interrogations; antigay bias crimes; and hazing rites for male clubs and organizations, like fraternities, and in the military.

In one study of 3,337 military veterans applying for disability benefits for post-traumatic stress disorder, 6.5 percent of male combat veterans and 16.5 percent of noncombat veterans reported either in-service or post-service sexual assault. (The rates were far higher for female veterans, 69.0 percent and 86.6 percent respectively.)

A Pentagon report released on Thursday found a 64 percent increase in sexual crimes in the Army since 2006, with rape, sexual assault and forcible sodomy the most frequent violent sex crimes committed last year; 95 percent of all victims were women.

Some studies have reported that the risk of rape is greatest for men who are young, are living in poverty or homeless, or are disabled or mentally ill. The C.D.C. study found that one-quarter of men who had been raped were assaulted before they were 10 , usually by someone they knew.

And young men raised by poor single mothers are especially vulnerable to male predators, said Dr. Zane Gates, an internist who cares for low-income patients on Medicaid at a community health center in Altoona, Pa.

“You’re looking for a male figure in your life desperately, and you’ll give anything for that,” he said.

Eugene Porter, a therapist in Oakland, Calif., and the author of the book “Treating the Young Male Victim of Sexual Assault,” said that while some assailants seek power and dominance, others “find that aggression enhances their sexual experience.”

“There is no arena in which rape takes place between men and women that it does not take place between men and men,” he said.

Like women, men who are raped feel violated and ashamed and may become severely depressed or suicidal. They are at increased risk for substance abuse, problems with interpersonal relationships, physical impairments, chronic pain, insomnia and other health problems.

But men also face a challenge to their sense of masculinity. Many feel they should have done more to fight off their attackers. Since they may believe that men are never raped, they may feel isolated and reluctant to confide in anyone. Male rape victims may become confused about their sexual orientation or, if gay and raped by a man, blame their sexual orientation for the rape.

“If you’re sexually assaulted, there’s this idea that you’re no longer a man,” said Neil Irvin, executive director of the organization Men Can Stop Rape. “The violence is ignored, and your sexual orientation and gender are confronted.”

Many rape crisis centers — which often also provide services for victims of domestic violence — do not have the resources to counsel male victims. Remarkably few male victims seek professional help for injuries, screening for sexually transmitted diseases or counseling after an attack, often waiting years or decades.

One study of 705 men in Virginia found that 91, or 13 percent, had been sexually assaulted, a vast majority of them before they turned 18. Fewer than one-fifth of victims had ever received professional services related to the assault.

“Men are affected — they have high rates of P.T.S.D. and depression — but the majority don’t get help,” said Dr. Saba W. Masho, the lead author of the Virginia study and an associate professor of epidemiology and community health at Virginia Commonwealth University. “It’s easy for you and I to talk about it, but when you put yourself in that victim’s shoes, they’re asking, ‘Do I want people to know? How do I seek help? Do I want my doctor to know? Where do I go?’ ”

Mr. Smith told his older brother and father about what had happened as soon as he got home, and the three went to the police to file a report. Mr. Smith had memorized the license plate number of the car, and the owner, who was known to the police because of a conviction for distributing pornography, was arrested. He was killed on the streets of Providence before he could stand trial.

Today, Mr. Smith is a member of the speakers bureau for Rainn, the Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network, which provides online counseling for victims. For years, he said, he suffered from nightmares in which he was fleeing his assailant’s car, scared that the man, who had handed him $10 and dropped him off almost three hours after picking him up, was coming back.

“I was waking up screaming,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/health/as-victims-men-struggle-for-rape-awareness.html
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 05:09 pm
@firefly,
It about time that a database showing that rapes is at a 33 years old low be destroy so that real trends can no longer be track and a phony rape crisis can be sold with more ease.

Oh Firefly it nice that you care so must for the welfare of men........LOL.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 05:23 pm
@firefly,
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So, you would favor increasing the sentences in cases where a child is raped.


I think punishment should have at least a mild connection to the harm done and the harm done in raping a child is more then slightly greater then having pictures/videos of such sad events on a computer hard drive.

Both call for punishment but not at the same level or even having greater punishment for the pictures/videos compare to raping a child.

Such is another example of how insane we had become over the issue of child porn in this society.

Oh yes off hand I would have set a longer sentence for the violence rape of a very young child at more then ten years.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 06:04 pm
@BillRM,
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It about time that a database showing that rapes is at a 33 years old low be destroy so that real trends can no longer be track

That statement is completely untrue. No database is being destroyed.
The federal statistics did not reflect the crimes of sexual assault which were being reported, charged, and prosecuted, on the state level, so they did not reflect "real trends" and they did not include sexual assaults against men or children. There is no point keeping federal crime statistics unless they accurately reflect what is occurring at the state level.
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Oh Firefly it nice that you care so must for the welfare of men........

You obviously don't care about the welfare of men.

Male victims of sexual assault and sexual abuse don't concern you at all--but, at least you're somewhat consistent, the female victims don't concern you either.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 06:31 pm
After 30 years, this rape victim finally saw her rapist held responsible for what he did to her.
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Rape victim broke silence to help others .
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Nottingham Post

A WOMAN who was sexually abused by her stepfather waived her anonymity on last night's Inside Out programme on BBC1 because she wanted to "give other victims the confidence to break their silence."

Dawn Berry, 47, of north Notts, was repeatedly raped by Keith Brown, 68, between the ages of 12 and 16 when she lived with him in Heanor.

Brown, a former New Ollerton resident, was brought to justice at Nottingham Crown Court in March last year.

His reign of terror came to an end in March 2009 when Mrs Berry went into Ollerton Police Station and told an officer about what had happened to her in the 1970s.

Mrs Berry said: "The reason I waived my anonymity was because I wanted to give other victims of sexual abuse the confidence to break their silence.

"I want people to know that there is support out there – I'm proof of that."

On last night's Inside Out programme for the East Midlands, Dawn spoke out about what had happened to her, explaining how she had been forced to keep the abuse a secret and how she thought of her stepfather as "the monster in the bedroom."

Mrs Berry revealed she now attends counselling sessions once a week with the Incest and Sexual Abuse Survivors charity.

Brown, formerly of Chestnut Drive, New Ollerton, was jailed for 18 years at Nottingham Crown Court last March.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Rape-victim-broke-silence-help/story-15223569-detail/story.html
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:42 pm
@firefly,
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That statement is completely untrue. No database is being destroyed.


Of course it is when you change what you are tracking by adding a whole new group and no longer breaking out the numbers of the class that had an 88 years old history of tracking you are destroying any ability to track into the future the tends on rapes and compare them with the past 88 years.

if you had wished to add another database that include new groups that would be fine but that not what you wish to do now is it Firefly?

You wish to rig the old database to give a false bounce on the rape numbers even if that mean destroying a very useful tool because that tool was not giving your the numbers you care to see.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 09:53 pm
@firefly,
Love to know how you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was any rape by a stepfather after 30 years.

Seems like any unstable woman who had it out for a stepfather or any other man for that matter can three decade after the so call events send a man to prison no evidence needed.

To say nothing of the statute of limitations that is suppose to offer protection again the need to somehow mount a defense against a 30 years old claimed event.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 14 Feb, 2012 10:09 pm
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.Milford man sentenced to 30 years in prison for sexually assaulting girl
Tuesday, February 14, 2012
By Brian McCready
Milford Bureau Chief

MILFORD — A jury last year convicted Donald Grady, 43, of Milford, of repeatedly sexually assaulting a young city girl over an 8-year-period.

The sexual abuse began when the girl was eight years old. Now 19, the Milford woman emotionally pleaded with Superior Court Judge Maureen Keegan Tuesday to “let Donnie rot in prison.”

Keegan acquiesced and sentenced Grady, who has a prior conviction for sexually assaulting a 12-year-old boy, to 30 years in prison, to be followed by five years of special parole.

“She may be beaten but she is not down, and that’s because of her not because of you,” Keegan told Grady after sentencing him.

Keegan said she was appalled to learn in the pre-sentencing investigation Grady was sexually assaulted as a child over a 4-year period by a male relative, and that he would continue the cycle of abuse. “You knew better then anyone the effects of sexual abuse on a child,” Keegan said.

When Grady met with the Office of Probation, he repeatedly broke down recalling the details of the sexual abuse he suffered as a young boy, said his attorney Robert Lacobelle, who sought a 15-year prison sentence.

But Keegan was unmoved.

“You cried for yourself but not for your victim,” Keegan said. “Sexual assault of a child is one of the worst crimes.”

Keegan blasted Grady for refusing to address his victim Tuesday, adding “don’t expect leniency.”

The victim, who was known to Grady, spoke Tuesday during the sentencing saying she was a normal 8-year-old girl, who just wanted to have fun. She felt special because Grady spent so much time with her, but as she grew older she knew the “big secret” they shared was wrong. She became afraid, and said Grady threatened her if she told anyone of the abuse.

She said Grady would “manipulate me into sex acts,” and try to bribe and later coerce her to continue, causing her to feel “helpless.”

“He took moments away from me…that should have been special,” the victim said. “He took my childhood and dignity…He scared and frightened me.”

“He cannot trap me. His days of scaring me are over, but he still frightens me,” the victim said.

She said the ordeal led her to pursue a major in criminal justice so she can help prevent abuse.

Keegan called the victim “brave.” She said Grady’s past arrests and convictions “indicate you need to be incarcerated for a substantial period.”

“Society needs to be protected from you,” Keegan told Grady. “Rehabilitation, I don’t hold out much hope for you.”

A jury deliberated in November and found Grady guilty on five of six counts of sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor. The victim testified at trial that Grady sexually assaulted her numerous times beginning when she was 8. The abuse took place at a Connecticut shoreline boat marina, at homes in Milford and another state, and at Grady’s former Plains Road painting business.

Grady was found guilty of first-degree sexual assault of someone under the age of 13, which required a minimum of 10 years in prison. He also was found guilty of three counts of risk of injury to a minor, and third-degree sexual assault for forcibly groping the victim.

Grady has been a registered sexual offender since his release from prison in 1996. He served two years of his three-year sentence after pleading no contest to first-degree sexual assault, for raping a 12-year-old boy.

Senior Assistant State’s Attorney Charles Stango said sexual assault cases involving children are just “awful” because it “involves young peoples’ innocence ripped away from them.” He said many sexual assault cases involving youths have to be plea bargained because the victims either don’t want to testify or have difficulty remembering facts.

Stango said the victim in this case surely wanted to be any other place in the world then testifying in the witness stand.

“It was the most brutal day of her life,” Stango said, while also calling Grady a “menace and predator.”

The victim said she came forward to share her story in the hopes others who are being victimized will come forward.

“He was given a lenient sentence once, and after he was released from prison almost immediately he took up with the victim,” Stango said. “There is no place for Mr. Grady amongst free men and women today.”

Grady’s 30-year prison sentence will be followed by five years of special probation including sex offender registry, sex offender treatment, polygraphs, no contact with the victim, no unsupervised contact with children under the age of 16. He also will not be permitted to live with minor children.
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/02/14/news/metro/doc4f3aaac4e0d85821315195.txt?viewmode=fullstory
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@BillRM,
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Seems like any unstable woman who had it out for a stepfather or any other man for that matter can three decade after the so call events send a man to prison no evidence needed.

Your constant false allegation crap is not only sickening, it is what helps to perpetuate a rape culture.

If it were not for the bravery of that woman, who, after 30 years, finally had the courage to report her rapes, the scope of this pedophile's monsterous behavior would never have been uncovered. And, if you can't understand why she might not have been able to report his crimes earlier, you don't understand this topic at all.
And even she was able to go to the police only after learning he had sexually abused others. Each of the children had thought they were the only victim and they were too afraid and felt too much shame to tell anyone what had happened to them--and, like many victims of sexual assault, they thought that they wouldn't be believed. And creeps who think the way you do are the reason they feared they wouldn't be believed.

This man was convicted after a jury trial. You're the one who allegedly accepts jury verdicts as the final standard of guilt, so you should have no problem accepting this man's guilt. And I think that even the judge in this case was upset that the man didn't enter a guilty plea to at least spare the victims the ordeal of testifying, because the circumstantial evidence these victims presented in their accounts was rather overwhelming.
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To say nothing of the statute of limitations that is suppose to offer protection

Why should there be a statute of limitations on horrific crimes of this nature?

Why are you concerned with protecting a pedophile rapist from being held accountable for his actions?

Where the hell is your concern for his victims?
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After 30 years, justice at last for six victims of child-rapist .
February 04, 2011
This is Derbyshire

A 68-YEAR-OLD man who raped and abused six children in the 1960s, 70s and 80s has finally been brought to justice.

Derby Crown Court heard that Keith Brown used the boys and girls, aged between 12 and 16 at the time, as his "sexual playthings".

Yesterday, he was found guilty of 16 counts of indecent assault and five of rape following a seven-day trial, and was warned that he faced between 13 and 19 years in prison when sentenced later this month.

Brown's ten-year reign of abuse was only uncovered in March 2009 when one of his victims came forward.

A lengthy police investigation followed, during which time more victims were uncovered.

After the case, Detective Claire McKeown said: "This was a complex and emotional investigation for all involved.

"All of the victims have shown great strength throughout the trial and I hope the guilty verdict will bring them the justice they deserve.

"I want to praise them for their bravery."

The court heard Brown, formerly of Ray Street, Heanor, but now of Newhall, assaulted the youngsters between 1969 and 1980.

Keith Raynor, prosecuting, said: "Keith Brown was a repeat sexual offender in the 1970s.

"He used a number of young children as his sexual playthings.

"He used everyday meetings with both young girls and boys to sexually abuse them and we say that he did this for his own sexual gratification."

The court heard that he started raping and indecently assaulting his first victim when she was 12 years old and continued until she was 16.

Mr Raynor said: "He raped her repeatedly when she was 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16."

He said she had particular cause to remember one of the occasions because Brown's wife, Delia, was in hospital, having lost her new-born baby that morning. Mr Raynor said Brown also attacked another young girl on his wedding night.

In addition, Brown indecently assaulted a boy six times when he was aged between 10 and 16 and indecently assaulted two other girls and another boy.

Mr Raynor said one of the victims did not tell anyone because he felt a "sense of shame".

Mr Raynor said: "He did not feel he would be believed and he felt that he was in Keith Brown's power."

Brown was arrested on July 20, 2009.
http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/30-years-justice-victims-child-rapist/story-11600673-detail/story.html

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Child rapist jailed after three decades of abuse
Wednesday 2 March 2011

THIS is the shameless face of sexual predator Keith Brown.

He is a former New Ollerton man who raped and molested seven children in the 1960s, 70s and 80s before being finally brought to justice last Wednesday.

The paedophile committed a string of sexual offences against boys and girls, who were aged 12 to 16 at the time, over a period of more than 10 years before his disturbing reign of terror was uncovered in March 2009 when a victim finally came forward.

After police were alerted to the abuse, a long and painstaking investigation revealed the full details of the rapist’s depravity – which included several other victims across three decades.

Brown (68), formerly of Chestnut Drive, New Ollerton, was jailed for 18 years at Nottingham Crown Court, watched by several of his former victims and their families.
http://www.chad.co.uk/news/local/child_rapist_jailed_after_three_decades_of_abuse_1_3134401
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