Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@firefly,

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Another serial predator--this one looked for potential victims in parking garages.

Silly poor sick lady trying to find justification for her fears of men by focusing on the few evil males in the world who would harm women instead of the vast majority that would cheerfully give their lives to protect their women and all women from harm.

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@BillRM,

Spoken like a silly poor sick man trying to find justification for his fears of women by focusing on the few evil ladies in the world who would harm men by making false allegations, instead of trying to support the far greater number of women who have been sexually assaulted by insisting that their rapists be prosecuted for their crimes...

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@firefly,

CLÍONA SAIDLÉAR is another woman making a living off the rapists are hiding under you bed industry.

Thank for sharing her writing Firefly

http://archie-templar.blogspot.com/2010/07/rcnis-cliona-saidlear-redefining-term.html?zx=cb47232d06c4796b

RCNI’s Clíona Saidléar: Redefining the term “Shrill”
Dublin;

Rape Crisis Network Ireland Policy & Communications Director and Shrill Über-Feminist Clíona Saidléar has done herself no favours this week by announcing that, in her expert opinion, and in incredibly bad English,”...any women appearings [sic] in any advert anywhere that is better looking than I am is a denigrated bitch-slut panndering [sic] to mens rape fantasies.”

Ms. Saidléar’s self serving comment comes in the wake of the RCNI’s formal complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland (ASAI) about the incredibly sexy Hunky Dory adverts that the RCNI claim condone the violent abuse and sexual assault of women; and by extension of this that Irish men would respond to the adverts like depraved sexual deviants unable to tell fantasy from reality as they dragged their collective knuckles across the ground.

This misguided and brazenly chauvinist perception of Irish mens supposed attitudes towards women displays once again just how out of touch an organisation can become when they leave their Public Relations in the hands of a person whose only aim is to pander to a small minorities perceived notions while attempting to use playground age pop-psychology to support their argument that would make a first year Sociology student blush.

The official complaints use of the phrase “deeply cynical” in relation to describing an advertisement is literally jaw dropping in its naïveté, as Product Advertising by its very nature is cynical and is used purely as a tool to part people from their money to buy things that they don’t need but can’t afford not to have.

At the time of going to press none of this really matters as no one is buying the corrugated, vomit tasting excuses that pass for

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@BillRM,

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CLÍONA SAIDLÉAR is another woman making a living off the rapists are hiding under you bed industry.

So her article, that I posted, was too difficult for you to understand? Laughing

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@firefly,

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In a rape culture, no matter what women are wearing, we are all sluts

rape culture by definition can only exist in a collective where men suck. Men of America do not suck, and the allegation that we do is offensive.

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@firefly,

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So her article, that I posted, was too difficult for you to understand?

Lets assume for the sake of civility that it was not too difficult for him to understand. After that if you have a objection to his words then state specifically what your objection is. But you cant handle operating at this level of decorum, can you Firefly....

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@firefly,

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Another serial predator--this one looked for potential victims in parking garages.

Wait...so now rape has been redefined to the point where any physical assault of a female is now attempted rape?? Who knew.....this does not surprise me but thanks for the heads up Firefly, this news invigorates me to work harder to end the abuse of men in this culture.

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@hawkeye10,

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rape culture by definition can only exist in a collective where men suck.

You didn't understand the article either. Laughing

The author of the article defined a rape culture as one with a high tolerance for sexual violence.

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Men of America do not suck, and the allegation that we do is offensive.

The author of the article is Irish--her article appeared in the Irish times. Nor was she even making derogatory comments about Irish men.

Awww...poor paranoid baby, you think someone is telling you that you suck...awww...you're being victimized again...sniff, sniff. Laughing

It's a pity you can't understand what that writer was saying without having to distort it so it fits in with your delusions that you're being abused.

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@hawkeye10,

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Wait...so now rape has been redefined to the point where any physical assault of a female is now attempted rape??

The man confessed to raping the woman on the Vanderbilt campus.

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this news invigorates me to work harder to end the abuse of men in this culture.

Right, the man confessed to a rape, of a female, so of course you have to "work harder to end the abuse of men in this culture". Rolling Eyes

Your desparate attempts to engage in rape denial, are making you like a complete idiot.

Your ability to accurately comprehend what you read has also deteriorated significantly. That sort of cognitive impairment should concern you considerably more than the alleged "abuse of men" you delusionally believe is taking place when a man admits to raping a woman in a parking garage.

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@firefly,

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The man confessed to raping the woman on the Vanderbilt campus

Says one report, others say that he admitted only to having an altercation with her

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NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) -
Metro Police are investigating the reported rape and robbery of a Vanderbilt student inside a parking garage on the university's campus.

According to investigators, the reported incident happened around 7:30 p.m. Friday night inside the Terrace Place Garage.

Police said in a news release that the 21-year-old woman told officers she was about to get into her car on the 7th floor of the parking garage when a man confronted her, pushed her into her car, sexually assaulted and robbed her.

Police said after the man got out of the car, the victim drove to a nearby restaurant and called police

http://www.wsmv.com/story/16912237/metro-police-investigating-possible-rape

Which could mean as little as that he inavertantly touched her tit while trying to rob her....we dont know what "rape" means, the definition has been so expanded that the word means little at all now. We do now that this guy confronted it is alleged 4 women over a short period of time, and while he got some cell phones and a handbag we dont have any mention of him getting any pussy....is he the most inept rapist of all time or is this rather not really about sex? You know my bet.

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@firefly,

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The author of the article defined a rape culture as one with a high tolerance for sexual violence.

Which is another way of saying lots of sexual violence, by men, because men SUCK!

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Rape culture is a term or concept used to describe a culture in which rape and sexual violence are common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone sexual violence.
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The root cause of rape culture is generally agreed to be the "domination and objectification of women"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture

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@firefly,

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The man confessed to raping the woman on the Vanderbilt campus.

Prove it, what exactly did he admit to doing?

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@hawkeye10,

Men suck indeed and are held barely in check by the Fireflies of the world telling men that it is bad to be a rapist by such means as posters on college campuses and by telling women to fear all men and their penises.

Of course they needed to rig the FBI database on sexual assaults like a cat covering her **** so it is harder to point out that reported rapes are at a 33 yeas low.

Never let facts interfere with the money making story that we have a rape culture.

We need to put women in clothing that cover them up completely and have them guarded 24/7 when out of the home by a semi-trusted male family member it would seems as we can not have them exposed to all those lust full males with their penises always hard.

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@hawkeye10,

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Prove it, what exactly did he admit to doing?

Your attempts to deny the crime of rape show just how out committed you are to maintaining your warped and deviant views, even when the rapist admits his crime.

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Metro Police say during an interview Sunday morning, Tyrone Batts confessed to Friday evening's rape and robbery of a 21-year-old Vanderbilt student inside the Terrace Place parking garage.

The man raped one woman and attempted to rape another. He is charged with both rape and attempted rape.

What's most telling about your response to this news story is that you both ignored the fact that this man attacked, or tried to attack, more than one woman within a short period of time, and you also distorted the information in the article I posted to diminish the severity of the sexual assault--you saw only attempted rape where the information actually includes the rape of one of the women, as well as the attempted rape of another.

One sexual predator can clearly prey on many women, particularly women who are in vulnerable locations, like unattended parking garages where no other people might be in the area.

And it is commendable that they were able to apprehend this man rather quickly, before he had a chance to attack again. Most people would be relieved that someone like this was arrested and off the streets.

Your response, on the other hand, reveals your lack of concern for public safety, particularly the public safety of women, as well as your need to deny the reality of rape and sexual assault.

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@firefly,

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Metro Police say 21 year-old woman was approached by a man, pushed into her car where she was sexually assaulted and robbed at the Terrace Place Garage on the Vanderbilt University Campus Friday night.

Detectives continue to investigate the case which took place at 2016 Terrace Place on the Vanderbilt University Campus.

The 21-year-old victim told officers that she was about to get into her car on the 7th floor of the parking garage when a man confronted her, pushed her into her car, sexually assaulted and robbed her.

After the suspect got out of the car, the victim drove to a nearby restaurant from where police were called at 7:30 p.m.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120211/NEWS03/120211017/Victim-sexually-assaulted-robbed-inside-Vanderbilt-parking-garage

Under the definition of sexual assault it is possible that all he did was inadvertently touch her tit as he was trying to rob her, and I understand that police claim that he has admitted to sexual assault but that does not mean much of anything. Was he trying to have sex with her? We dont know. Did he have sex with her? We dont know but given that we are not specifically told that he did it is unlikey that he did, as the state does its best to vilify those whom they arrest on sex charges and would thus would they provide more slime on this guy if they had it.

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Your response, on the other hand, reveals your lack of concern for public safety, particularly the public safety of women, as well as your need to deny the reality of rape and sexual assault

My concern is justice....the sloppy and expansive definitions used by the state are not conducive to getting justice, and neither is the states practice of sending out press releases with the purpose of vilifying the accused.

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@BillRM,

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We need to put women in clothing that cover them up completely and have them guarded 24/7 when out of the home by a semi-trusted male family member it would seems as we can not have them exposed to all those lust full males with their penises always hard.

Oh, you shouldn't be so harsh and negative toward men, BillRM. Laughing

Are you saying all men are potential rapists because they can become sexually aroused. Laughing

Foolish boy, you missed the point of this whole thread, probably because you're so obsessively preoccupied with your own fears of evil women, who you believe are just itching to spring into action and accuse innocent men of rape.

We're not discussing sex in this thread, we're discussing sexual assaults.

And we're not discussing men, as a group, in this thread, we're talking about those who commit sexual assaults, as defined in the criminal laws of each state and country.

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telling men that it is bad to be a rapist by such means as posters on college campuses

You'd rather tell men that it is good to be a rapist? Rolling Eyes

Those posters are simply reminding young men to be mindful of the laws regarding sexual assault and the need for consent.

To remind people not to drink and drive does not mean you are implying that everyone is an alcoholic who drives in a drunk and irresponsible manner.

Both the college anti-rape posters, and the drunk driving campaigns, are aimed at helping people to avoid breaking laws, and possibly harming others, whether intentionally or unintentionally. And, quite predictably, just as you argue against drunk driving laws in another thread, you argue against rape laws in this thread.

In your childish, and simplistic, and amoral mind, you eliminate criminal behavior by getting rid of the criminal laws. Laughing

Of course, the irresponsible, and wrong, and harmful behaviors would still continue, and victims would still be hurt by them, but perpetrators would not have to worry about being punished or held responsible for their acts. It's a nice sociopathic pro-criminal agenda you have. Do you want to eliminate the burglary laws too?

The reason people think we have a "rape culture" is because of the attitudes of people like you--you deny the reality of rape, you blame the victims, you excuse the behavior of rapists, you want the rape laws made even more lax, etc.--all of which helps to promote a culture in which sexual assault is more acceptable, and where rapists can feel free to sexually assault with impunity because the risk of conviction is low.

Your main value in this thread has been to serve as an illustration of the problem.

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@hawkeye10,

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I understand that police claim that he has admitted to sexual assault but that does not mean much of anything.

The article I posted said he admitted to rape..

He is accused of rape.

Now you don't know what rape is? If you are that ignorant of the state laws that define rape, you shouldn't even be posting in this thread.

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In Tennessee, rape is defined as the “unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant accompanied by any of the following circumstances: (1) Force or coercion is used to accomplish the act; (2) The sexual penetration is accomplished without the consent of the victim and the defendant knows or has reason to know at the time of the penetration that the victim did not consent T.C.A. § 39-13-502.

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the sloppy and expansive definitions used by the state are not conducive to getting justice

The purpose of the definitions, which are neither sloppy nor expansive, is to define the crime--so that justice for victims of such crimes can be sought.

That an almost 50 year old man, like yourself, can't understand simply worded sexual assault laws, is really quite disgraceful. If you think that continually professing your ignorance, or inability to understand this laws, flatters you, in any way, you are deluding yourself. You simply look like a fool.

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@hawkeye10,

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My concern is justice....the sloppy and expansive definitions used by the state are not conducive to getting justice, and neither is the states practice of sending out press releases with the purpose of vilifying the accused.

Could not agree more.............

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EDITORIAL
Joanna Weiss
February 12, 2012

LET THE record reflect that even Dave Portnoy — the trash-mouthed commandant of the website Barstool Sports — knows that there are certain times when you shouldn’t make certain jokes.

This was proven on a night earlier this month, when Barstool, which equally celebrates sports and the male id, was holding an installment of its “Barstool Blackout Tour,’’ a traveling dance party with lasers and black lights, for Northeastern students at the House of Blues. A campus protest group that called itself Knockout Barstool held a competing event: an open-mic rally against rape, protesting Barstool’s general way of degrading women, and in particular, some off-color jokes that Portnoy has made under the pen name “El Presidente.’’ (Example: “We don’t condone rape of any kind at our Blackout Parties. . . However if a chick passes out that’s a gray area.’’)

Portnoy showed up, intending to take the microphone himself and offer a half-satirical, half-serious response: Naming a few comedians, for instance, who have joked about rape, with little consequence. But then he saw that women were sharing real, painful stories about sexual assault. So instead, he stayed silent, and watched.

“It was kind of emotional,’’ Portnoy told me last week. “We’re just as anti-rape as they are. . . It’s not our intent, with jokes, to poke fun at rape victims.’’

This is not to say that Portnoy has any intent of changing his ways, or his website. For one thing, there’s too much money at stake; dumb frat humor sells plenty of ads, and the “Blackout Tour’’ — named for the black lights, Portnoy says — is on a lucrative swing through campuses nationwide. It hits Boston College on March 28, the same night as the campus Take Back the Night rally, and a group of BC students has launched a petition against “condoning the rape culture that Barstool Sports blog perpetuates,’’ and is working on launching an inter-university effort to stigmatize rape jokes once and for all.

In a way, these women’s groups can thank Barstool for the opening. When it comes to sexual assault on campus, it’s amazing how little has changed over the years, and how wrongheaded some rape-prevention messaging remains. As Knockout organizer Anna Siembor points out, advice is often directed at precisely the wrong person: “Don’t drink too much and walk out by yourself, girl, don’t wear a short skirt. . . instead of saying, ‘Hey, if someone’s passed out, don’t have sex with them.’ ’’ She’s right, too, that slut jokes don’t exactly help the cause of treating women with respect.
http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-12/opinion/31050120_1_jokes-sexual-assault-night-rally

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Another acquaintance rape. This elderly woman had several contacts with this man, who she was concerned about and was trying to assist, before he raped her.
She was trying to help this homeless man, she was not "asking to be raped" when she chose to interact with him.
And, as is evident, even the very elderly can be victims of rape.

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Orland Park rape suspect deemed mentally fit to stand trial
By lauren FitzPatrick
Sun-Times Media
January 26, 2012

A homeless man accused of raping an elderly Orland Park woman has been deemed fit to stand trial, a Cook County judge said Thursday.

Dennis Dodson, 35, who is charged with attacking the woman in September behind the Home Depot store in Orland Park, was evaluated by Cook County at his attorney’s request, and was found capable of understanding his rights, Judge John Hynes said, reading from a letter from pre-trial services.

Dodson may stand trial in the Cook County courthouse in Bridgeview, Hynes continued.

Assistant Public Defender Camille Bachli said she would be seeking a second opinion on Dodson’s mental fitness.

The victim, who was 83 when she was assaulted, felt bad for Dodson and was trying to help him, she said during a preliminary hearing.

She took him money and food from her nearby home, and when she asked Dodson if she could call the police to have them check on him, he sexually assaulted her, she testified in October.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/10253028-418/orland-park-rape-suspect-deemed-mentally-fit-to-stand-trial.html

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