Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread V

Oh, I see the Bush family have made a cute Christmas video starring Barney the dog.

The barman in the republican bar is polishing his glasses and looking at the clock, because he doesn't have many customers left.

I personally would be happier if there were more Bush supporters here and if they had something, anything to be enthusiastic about.

In House to House: An Epic Memoir of War, Staff Sergeant David Bellavia?-a gung-ho supporter of the Iraq war?-casually recounts how in 2004, while his platoon was on just its second patrol in Iraq,

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a civilian candy truck tried to merge with a column of our armored vehicles, only to get run over and squashed. The occupants were smashed beyond recognition. Our first sight of death was a man and his wife both ripped open and dismembered, their intestines strewn across shattered boxes of candy bars. The entire platoon hadn't eaten for twenty-four hours. We stopped, and as we stood guard around the wreckage, we grew increasingly hungry. Finally, I stole a few nibbles from one of the cleaner candy bars. Others wiped away the gore and fuel from the wrappers and joined me.

This incident is notable mainly for the fact that the platoon stopped; from the many accounts I have read of the Iraq war, when a US convoy runs over a car, it usually just keeps going.

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

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In House to House: An Epic Memoir of War, Staff Sergeant David Bellavia?-a gung-ho supporter of the Iraq war?-casually recounts how in 2004, while his platoon was on just its second patrol in Iraq,

Quote:

a civilian candy truck tried to merge with a column of our armored vehicles, only to get run over and squashed. The occupants were smashed beyond recognition. Our first sight of death was a man and his wife both ripped open and dismembered, their intestines strewn across shattered boxes of candy bars. The entire platoon hadn't eaten for twenty-four hours. We stopped, and as we stood guard around the wreckage, we grew increasingly hungry. Finally, I stole a few nibbles from one of the cleaner candy bars. Others wiped away the gore and fuel from the wrappers and joined me.

This incident is notable mainly for the fact that the platoon stopped; from the many accounts I have read of the Iraq war, when a US convoy runs over a car, it usually just keeps going.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20906

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

Brave the reading? Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does, so you would be the first if that is the case.

Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

ABA drops Gonzales's ?'Lawyer of the Year' title.

Recently, the American Bar Association named former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as "Lawyer of the Year" for being the major newsmaker of 2007. Today, the ABA issued a clarification, giving Gonzales a new title: "Newsmaker of the Year":

The article defined that term as the year's biggest legal newsmaker, identifying former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales as the major newsmaker of 2007. The Journal regrets that we did not make this theme clear.

We appreciate the feedback we've received, and we're acting on it. So that there can be no confusion, the term "Lawyers of the Year" has been changed in the headline and story to "Newsmakers of the Year." The story is otherwise unchanged from its original version.

http://thinkprogress.org/

Bush ?'needs' Hannity and Limbaughs
At the White House Christmas party for the press last night, "conservative talk radio hosts dominated the place, including Laura Ingraham, Hugh Hewitt, Neal Boortz, Mark Levin and Paul W. Smith." During a conversation with WMAL General Manager Chris Berry, whose station features such conservative hosts as Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, President Bush "smiled, patted him on the back and said, ?'Keep it up. We need you guys.'"


http://thinkprogress.org/

Perino: It's Awkward Having ?'Other Channels' Besides Fox News At White House Parties

Last night, the White House "threw back-to-back holiday receptions for the news media" with over 500 guests attending. At the "early one" for print and radio journalists, conservative talk radio hosts like Neal Boortz and Hugh Hewitt "dominated the place."

On Fox and Friends this morning, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said it "was a great party" and that she loves "having everybody there."

Host Steve Doocy asked if it was "weird" to have "people who appear on other channels, who bash the president all the time" at the party. Perino responded by criticizing the non-Fox News members of the press, saying "it's a little awkward" and "audacious" for some of them to "ask to be invited":

DOOCY: [H]ow weird is it to have, Dana, people who appear on other channels, who bash the president all the time, and then, one night a year, they come into the White House, they bring their kids, and they say, Hi, how are you, as if they haven't been bashing the president all year long?

PERINO: It's a little awkward. And it was amazing to me, being in charge of taking the requests for invitations this year, how audacious some people are to call and ask to be invited to the president's Christmas party.

With President Bush's approval rating at 28 percent, the White House is turning to friendly outlets. Last month, Bush recorded back-to-back interviews for Fox News and the Fox Business Channel, one of which was for "a documentary" that Fox's Bret Baier is producing.

In 2006, after Vice President Dick Cheney shot a friend in the face while hunting, he agreed to "only" speak to Fox's Brit Hume though "every news organization was hotly pursuing" interviews. When he travels, Cheney requires that all televisions in his hotel rooms be turned to Fox News.

Earlier this week, Fox's Shepard Smith reminded us that Fox is Bush's "network after all."

http://thinkprogress.org/

McG

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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

How COULD 50 some odd million people be so f*cking stupid? Twice! The aftermath of this clown is one royal f*uckup after another.

Why would a man that seriously lacks the ability to be elected as dog-catcher be voted in twice as the president of the USA?

This simply defies all notions of common sense. It's astonishing ... it's more than astonishing, it's stupefying.

blatham wrote:

McG

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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

Ticomaya wrote:

blatham wrote:

McG

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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

Wrong analogy. Every Iraqi home ought to have clearly seen/known what the consequences of Iraqi-begun war on Iran or Kuwait were. Of course, that would be far moreso the case had Iraq been a democracy where the government operated in the name or with the agreement of its citizens.

You are responsible for what you do. You are responsible for what your country does.

blatham wrote:

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

I dont have to read the accounts, I was there.

There isnt a single lefty on this site that has the courage of their convictions either.

If you think the war is so wrong and if you think the Iraqi's are the victims, why arent you over there trying to help them?
Why arent you over there setting up clinics, helping rebuild the infrastructure, helping feed and clothe the Iraqi population, etc?

You can sit behind your computer and bitch, but you arent willing to get off your ass and go over there and help.

Why not?

blatham wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

blatham wrote:

McG

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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

Wrong analogy. Every Iraqi home ought to have clearly seen/known what the consequences of Iraqi-begun war on Iran or Kuwait were. Of course, that would be far moreso the case had Iraq been a democracy where the government operated in the name or with the agreement of its citizens.

You are responsible for what you do. You are responsible for what your country does.

Your hope for the photographs is to drive your anti-war agenda. Photos of Saddam's tortures/killings don't fuel that agenda, thus you aren't interested in those being hung as stark reminders of his atrocities.

If you are for truth, you ought to be for the entire truth.