Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread V

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Oh, I see the Bush family have made a cute Christmas video starring Barney the dog.

Indeed. It was shot on the WH grounds which are, as the president mentioned, under the National Park Service. Not only was that location for the Barney/park shoot handy, but more importantly, it was the only National Park Service land where Barney wasn't likely to be crushed by strip-mining machines. I thought it all heartwarming.

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McTag wrote:

The barman in the republican bar is polishing his glasses and looking at the clock, because he doesn't have many customers left.

I personally would be happier if there were more Bush supporters here and if they had something, anything to be enthusiastic about.

They've died off faster than flies after the first frost, McTag. There are only the truly delusional left. The odd one has tried his hand at a kind of humor, with typical conservative results.

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aftermath statistics... money spent on federal contracts for paper shredding
year 2000... $452,807
year 2006... $2,902,855

graphs/data here

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There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

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a civilian candy truck tried to merge with a column of our armored vehicles, only to get run over and squashed. The occupants were smashed beyond recognition. Our first sight of death was a man and his wife both ripped open and dismembered, their intestines strewn across shattered boxes of candy bars. The entire platoon hadn't eaten for twenty-four hours. We stopped, and as we stood guard around the wreckage, we grew increasingly hungry. Finally, I stole a few nibbles from one of the cleaner candy bars. Others wiped away the gore and fuel from the wrappers and joined me.

This incident is notable mainly for the fact that the platoon stopped; from the many accounts I have read of the Iraq war, when a US convoy runs over a car, it usually just keeps going.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20906

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blatham wrote:

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

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a civilian candy truck tried to merge with a column of our armored vehicles, only to get run over and squashed. The occupants were smashed beyond recognition. Our first sight of death was a man and his wife both ripped open and dismembered, their intestines strewn across shattered boxes of candy bars. The entire platoon hadn't eaten for twenty-four hours. We stopped, and as we stood guard around the wreckage, we grew increasingly hungry. Finally, I stole a few nibbles from one of the cleaner candy bars. Others wiped away the gore and fuel from the wrappers and joined me.

This incident is notable mainly for the fact that the platoon stopped; from the many accounts I have read of the Iraq war, when a US convoy runs over a car, it usually just keeps going.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20906

Brave the reading? Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does, so you would be the first if that is the case.

Perhaps you should visit wwwdotogrishdotcom to fulfill your pornographic gore fantasies. You can sure get your fill of it there if that's what does it for you.

Because we choose not to discuss it, does not make us ignorant of it.

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blatham wrote:

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

Sounds like another suspicious phony soldier story to me. May not be, but sounds hokey in my opinion. Somebody needs to check out and verify stories like this before I would ever believe them, thats for sure.

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McGentrix wrote:

Brave the reading? Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does, so you would be the first if that is the case.

Certainly not where the USA is concerned. By the by, this isn't a war, it's an illegal invasion, no different from Saddam's move into Kuwait.

From the get go, in all the illegal invasions the USA has been involved in throughout the 20th century and into this century, it's simply a litany of murder and mayhem, a "who gives a **** about them, they're the enemy" attitude.

This is supposed to be for the people of Iraq, right, to save them for democracy? How many lie in graves, unable to to enjoy the fruits of your great benevolence?

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McG

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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

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And that doesn't answer the question about why our soldiers are sacrificing themselves for this illegal war that's costing US taxpayers 2.7 billion every week.

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President Bush stood in the White House and told ABC: "I doubt I'd be standing here if I hadn't quit drinking whiskey." Sobriety's gain was America's loss.

Arianna Huffington

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How COULD 50 some odd million people be so f*cking stupid? Twice! The aftermath of this clown is one royal f*uckup after another.

Why would a man that seriously lacks the ability to be elected as dog-catcher be voted in twice as the president of the USA?

This simply defies all notions of common sense. It's astonishing ... it's more than astonishing, it's stupefying.

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It's mind-boggling times.

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All these little goebbels running around doing the WH's bidding. Have they no sense of honor, decency, truth?

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blatham wrote:

McG
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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

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JTT wrote:

How COULD 50 some odd million people be so f*cking stupid? Twice! The aftermath of this clown is one royal f*uckup after another.

Why would a man that seriously lacks the ability to be elected as dog-catcher be voted in twice as the president of the USA?

This simply defies all notions of common sense. It's astonishing ... it's more than astonishing, it's stupefying.

I agree Bill should never have gotten elected and I find it preposterous we have to now consider his wife for another 4 years.

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Ticomaya wrote:

blatham wrote:
McG
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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

Wrong analogy. Every Iraqi home ought to have clearly seen/known what the consequences of Iraqi-begun war on Iran or Kuwait were. Of course, that would be far moreso the case had Iraq been a democracy where the government operated in the name or with the agreement of its citizens.

You are responsible for what you do. You are responsible for what your country does.

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blatham wrote:

There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

I dont have to read the accounts, I was there.

There isnt a single lefty on this site that has the courage of their convictions either.

If you think the war is so wrong and if you think the Iraqi's are the victims, why arent you over there trying to help them?
Why arent you over there setting up clinics, helping rebuild the infrastructure, helping feed and clothe the Iraqi population, etc?

You can sit behind your computer and bitch, but you arent willing to get off your ass and go over there and help.

Why not?

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blatham wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
blatham wrote:
McG
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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

Wrong analogy. Every Iraqi home ought to have clearly seen/known what the consequences of Iraqi-begun war on Iran or Kuwait were. Of course, that would be far moreso the case had Iraq been a democracy where the government operated in the name or with the agreement of its citizens.

You are responsible for what you do. You are responsible for what your country does.

Your hope for the photographs is to drive your anti-war agenda. Photos of Saddam's tortures/killings don't fuel that agenda, thus you aren't interested in those being hung as stark reminders of his atrocities.

If you are for truth, you ought to be for the entire truth.

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mysteryman wrote:

blatham wrote:
There isn't a Bush supporter on this site who will brave the reading of these soldiers' accounts of the Iraq war. Reality isn't very important. Reality of this nature is important to stay ignorant of.

I dont have to read the accounts, I was there.

There isnt a single lefty on this site that has the courage of their convictions either.

If you think the war is so wrong and if you think the Iraqi's are the victims, why arent you over there trying to help them?
Why arent you over there setting up clinics, helping rebuild the infrastructure, helping feed and clothe the Iraqi population, etc?

You can sit behind your computer and bitch, but you arent willing to get off your ass and go over there and help.

Why not?

You were there and that makes you exempt from my charge. Even if you aren't much of a Bush supporter any longer.

I can't go for reasons of family and health. But if those two factors were different, I likely still wouldn't go as I never joined any of the many volunteer organizations which help out in, say, third world countries when I was younger and had the opportunity. So your complaint has validity.

But you pose a false dichotomy. It is not the case that only those individuals who make such a commitment can validly speak regarding the morality or lack of it of one's nation's acts (or another nation's acts). Obviously, if someone criticizing what the US has done in Iraq has no valid moral voice if he/she hasn't gone there, then too, anyone supporting what the US has done in Iraq has equally no valid moral voice.

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Ticomaya wrote:

blatham wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
blatham wrote:
McG
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Do you really believe that war is a clean sterile event? I don't know anyone that does,

War, particularly this war, is a sterilized event. Every home should have picture on the wall of Iraqi children with their brains leaking out. Just to get to the "know' in your second sentence.

Alternately, Bush could allow someone to cut his daughters' legs off. Or Bill Kristol could sit by and watch while his mother is set alight. Or Cheney could drive a tank over his own son and watch the guts spurt out.

Should every home have a picture of the horrific tortures performed by Saddam during his reign? How about 8x10's of all the bodies contained in his killing fields?

Wrong analogy. Every Iraqi home ought to have clearly seen/known what the consequences of Iraqi-begun war on Iran or Kuwait were. Of course, that would be far moreso the case had Iraq been a democracy where the government operated in the name or with the agreement of its citizens.

You are responsible for what you do. You are responsible for what your country does.

Your hope for the photographs is to drive your anti-war agenda. Photos of Saddam's tortures/killings don't fuel that agenda, thus you aren't interested in those being hung as stark reminders of his atrocities.

If you are for truth, you ought to be for the entire truth.

Anti-war agenda? Yes, I definitely don't like war. Possibly you have a pro-war agenda, tico? Possibly you like war? Please refrain from the silly binary cliches, they only serve to make you dull.

By all means, entire truth. Let's include Saddam's atrocities. Let's include the briefings that Cheney and the energy/oil industry reps had before the war. Let's have Greenspan give full expression to his comment that "this war was about oil". Let's get full information on the ties between Blackwater and the Pentagon. Let's bring crushed childrens' guts into our living rooms too. Let's go for truth in its entirety. Good for you?

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