Ever Have A Feeling You Can't Explain About A Politician?

How about his support for waterboarding, depriving inmates of lawyers, and expanding the prison system within the legal vacuum of Guantanamo Bay -- You support that about him too?

Edit: Just in case that wasn't clear -- this post is directed at Phoenix, not Sozobe.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I am leary of anyone who will continue to throw money and our young people at Iraq just so everyone can see his big balls.....

I agree. I think that the current administration, with our "fearless leader" has screwed up, big time. I think that his premise was correct, but he did not have the wherewithal to think the whole thing through, and come up with a solution that would not entail destroying the lives of 19 year old Americans.

Phoenix32890 wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I am leary of anyone who will continue to throw money and our young people at Iraq just so everyone can see his big balls.....

I agree. I think that the current administration, with our "fearless leader" has screwed up, big time. I think that his premise was correct, but he did not have the wherewithal to think the whole thing through, and come up with a solution that would not entail destroying the lives of 19 year old Americans.

If you don't mind me asking, exactly what premise of our current president was correct with Iraq? (I assume Iraq is the subject in question)

Obama has more experience that I originally thought and has been pretty consistent through out his career on issues. He has at least as much foreign experience as George Bush did and I am sure he can answer pop questions put to him with countries of interest in today's climate. (This btw is important) I don't understand what is fishy about him. Just because someone has a smooth pretty face does not automatically mean the said someone is an airhead.



There are lots of places to look up Obama's political bio here is another one.

I can see why he might not appeal to all voters in either in the republican camp and even some liberal/democrat camps. Of course everyone has their own druthers and is certainly entitled to them. But to dismiss as some kind of pretty used car sales man does him a disservice.

and the big picture.... although involving a more extended involvement in the middle east than one would care for but may be inevitable....needs to include something besides a "keep on killing them ****" stategy... and none of the republicans have that... it's just same old same old look how tough I am bullshit.

revel wrote:

Phoenix32890 wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I am leary of anyone who will continue to throw money and our young people at Iraq just so everyone can see his big balls.....

I agree. I think that the current administration, with our "fearless leader" has screwed up, big time. I think that his premise was correct, but he did not have the wherewithal to think the whole thing through, and come up with a solution that would not entail destroying the lives of 19 year old Americans.

If you don't mind me asking, exactly what premise of our current president was correct with Iraq? (I assume Iraq is the subject in question)

Obama has more experience that I originally thought and has been pretty consistent through out his career on issues. He has at least as much foreign experience as George Bush did and I am sure he can answer pop questions put to him with countries of interest in today's climate. (This btw is important) I don't understand what is fishy about him. Just because someone has a smooth pretty face does not automatically mean the said someone is an airhead.



There are lots of places to look up Obama's political bio here is another one.

I can see why he might not appeal to all voters in either in the republican camp and even some liberal/democrat camps. Of course everyone has their own druthers and is certainly entitled to them. But to dismiss as some kind of pretty used car sales man does him a disservice.

and that's what I'm saying.... I can't put my finger on what it is about Obama that doesn't ring quite true with me.....and I'm trying to get past it and be objective....

and that's what I'm saying.... I can't put my finger on what it is about Obama that doesn't ring quite true with me.....and I'm trying to get past it and be objective....

Thomas wrote:

How about his support for waterboarding, depriving inmates of lawyers, and expanding the prison system within the legal vacuum of Guantanamo Bay -- You support that about him too?

Edit: Just in case that wasn't clear -- this post is directed at Phoenix, not Sozobe.

It is a very difficult question for me to answer. Personally, I don't like any of the things that you mentioned. Problem is, we are dealing with a group of people who think nothing of blowing themselves up, and destroying as many American lives as they can to gain their ends. Yes, there are going to be abuses...................but wasn't there someone on this thread who mentioned the concept of "big picture"?

Problem is, we are dealing with a group of people who think nothing of blowing themselves up, and destroying as many American lives as they can to gain their ends.

Yes, there are going to be abuses...................but wasn't there someone on this thread who mentioned the concept of "big picture"?

Sorry if this sounds heartless, but you seem to be a prime specimen to illustrate what BipolarBear was talking about in the beginning of his thread.

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Sorry if this sounds heartless, but you seem to be a prime specimen to illustrate what BipolarBear was talking about in the beginning of his thread.

Thomas- No, it does not sound heartless, and you are probably right. Then again, anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback! :wink:

Obama Response to Supreme Court Decision
| April 18, 2007

Chicago, IL-- Senator Barack Obama today made the following statement in response to the U.S. Supreme Court decision regarding abortion.

"I strongly disagree with today's Supreme Court ruling, which dramatically departs from previous precedents safeguarding the health of pregnant women. As Justice Ginsburg emphasized in her dissenting opinion, this ruling signals an alarming willingness on the part of the conservative majority to disregard its prior rulings respecting a woman's medical concerns and the very personal decisions between a doctor and patient. I am extremely concerned that this ruling will embolden state legislatures to enact further measures to restrict a woman's right to choose, and that the conservative Supreme Court justices will look for other opportunities to erode Roe v. Wade, which is established federal law and a matter of equal rights for women."