Information Control or how to get to Orwellian governance II

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't posit an actual defense of Wolfie's actions - only attacks those who are attacking him.

CLASSIC Republican tactics! I really appreciate you posting this, Ican, as it shows the methodology which the Republican party has worked under for quite some time, in stark relief.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't posit an actual defense of Wolfie's actions - only attacks those who are attacking him.

CLASSIC Republican tactics! I really appreciate you posting this, Ican, as it shows the methodology which the Republican party has worked under for quite some time, in stark relief.

Cycloptichorn

Those accusations have been posted many times by others. The article I posted is a response to those accusations. Those accusations about Mr. Wolfowitz giving his girl friend more pay and a better job are without merit.

Your response is an emulation of classic standard Soros gang behavior.

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In fact, since it isn't in question that he actually did these things, then they are not without merit but valid.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that he didn't get his GF more pay and a better job. Have you?

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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In fact, since it isn't in question that he actually did these things, then they are not without merit but valid.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that he didn't get his GF more pay and a better job. Have you?

Cycloptichorn

Yes, there is a question that he actually did these things.

I have seen articles saying he didn't get his GF more pay and a better job.

He abstained from having anything to do with this.

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't posit an actual defense of Wolfie's actions - only attacks those who are attacking him.

CLASSIC Republican tactics! I really appreciate you posting this, Ican, as it shows the methodology which the Republican party has worked under for quite some time, in stark relief.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't posit an actual defense of Wolfie's actions - only attacks those who are attacking him.

CLASSIC Republican tactics! I really appreciate you posting this, Ican, as it shows the methodology which the Republican party has worked under for quite some time, in stark relief.

Cycloptichorn

Actually,whats classic is that when Soro's own words are posted,you ignore them and attack someone or something else.

Why are you ignoring what Soros wrote,and what he said?

ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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In fact, since it isn't in question that he actually did these things, then they are not without merit but valid.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that he didn't get his GF more pay and a better job. Have you?

Cycloptichorn

Yes, there is a question that he actually did these things.

I have seen articles saying he didn't get his GF more pay and a better job.

He abstained from having anything to do with this.

Why would he have to 'abstain' from having anything to do with this?

If you have an article which shows proof that he had nothing to do with this, present it. I highly doubt that there would be this much hullabaloo over absolutely nothing, and it's already claimed the job of his top aide.

Cycloptichorn

mysteryman wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Interesting that the article you posted doesn't posit an actual defense of Wolfie's actions - only attacks those who are attacking him.

CLASSIC Republican tactics! I really appreciate you posting this, Ican, as it shows the methodology which the Republican party has worked under for quite some time, in stark relief.

Cycloptichorn

Actually,whats classic is that when Soro's own words are posted,you ignore them and attack someone or something else.

Why are you ignoring what Soros wrote,and what he said?

I didn't see any requests for comments on it.

What is wrong with what he said, exactly?

Cycloptichorn

I do not accept the rules imposed by others. If I did, I would not be alive today. I am a law-abiding citizen, but I recognize that there are regimes that need to be opposed rather than accepted. And in periods of regime change, the normal rules don't apply. One needs to adjust one's behavior to the changing circumstances.

Tividar [George Soros's father] saved his family by splitting them up, providing them with forged papers and false identities as Christians, and bribing Gentile families to take them in. George Soros took the name Sandor Kiss, and posed as the godson of a man named Baumbach, an official of Hungary's fascist regime. Baumbach was assigned to deliver deportation notices to Jews and confiscate Jewish property. [Baumbach] brought young Soros with him on his rounds.

My goal is to become the conscience of the world

Usually it takes a crisis to prompt a meaningful change in direction.

Ousting Bush from the White House is the central focus of my life. It's a matter of life and death.

My greatest fear is that the Bush Doctrine will succeed--that Bush will crush the terrorists, tame the rogue states of the axis of evil, and usher in a golden age of American supremacy. American supremacy is flawed and bound to fail in the long run.

What I am afraid of is that the pursuit of American supremacy may be successful for a while because the United States in fact employs a dominant position in the world today.

These are not normal times.

The principles of the Declaration of Independence are not self-evident truths but arrangements necessitated by our inherently imperfect understanding.

In April 2005 the Soros funded Campus Progress web site posted this headline: "An Invitation to Help Design the Constitution in 2020" (This was an invitation to a Yale law School Conference on "The Constitution of 2020: a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.")

On December 9, 2004, Eli Pariser, who headed Soros's group Moveon PAC, boasted to his members, "Now the Democratic Party is our party. We bought it, we own it."

Nope, I still don't see what he said that has you in such a tizzy. Maybe you can explain exactly how his dastardly plan is supposed to work
Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Nope, I still don't see what he said that has you in such a tizzy. Maybe you can explain exactly how his dastardly plan is supposed to work
Cycloptichorn

His plan is working!
First, he bought a majority of the Democratic Party and a minority of the Republican Party.
Second he bought a majority of the news media.
Third he is using those purchases to convince the American voters to turn us into a "Big Brother" state (e.g., a socialist state).

MUCH MORE TO COME
(sources will subsequently be provided)

Influencing media
On the Bill O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly claimed that Soros is buying power in the media to further his political agenda.

"He funds La Raza. Now what is the intrusion of the mainstream media? Because you've got some pretty big names. Bill Moyers. Wednesday night, he's going to take a big shot at the press on PBS. We know he's in bed with Soros. Rosie O'Donnell, not taken seriously, but certainly a platform every day on ABC. "New York Times", two of their main columnists. "Newsweek" magazine Jonathan Alter. And NBC News, where it's pitiful, but they have commentators that basically take exactly what Soros gives them and spit it out over the airwaves. That's a lot of power, is it not?"[25]

Losing its bid to take over Univision Communications to a consortium of private equity funds could be a good thing for Grupo Televisa, according to research firm Credit Suisse.

Televisa tried to acquire Univision (nyse: UVN - news - people ) last week for $11 billion, but had to withdraw its bid when it lost the backing of two private equity firms, reportedly the Blackstone Group and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts.

On Tuesday, Univision, the largest Spanish-language media company in the U.S., announced a private acquisition deal worth $13.7 billion.

The consortium, led by private equity firms Texas Pacific Group Inc. and Thomas H. Lee Partners, also includes Madison Dearborn Partners LLC, Providence Equity Partners Inc., and media mogul Haim Saban.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Influencing_media

Influencing media
On the Bill O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly claimed that Soros is buying power in the media to further his political agenda.
"He funds La Raza. Now what is the intrusion of the mainstream media? Because you've got some pretty big names. Bill Moyers. Wednesday night, he's going to take a big shot at the press on PBS. We know he's in bed with Soros. Rosie O'Donnell, not taken seriously, but certainly a platform every day on ABC. "New York Times", two of their main columnists. "Newsweek" magazine Jonathan Alter. And NBC News, where it's pitiful, but they have commentators that basically take exactly what Soros gives them and spit it out over the airwaves. That's a lot of power, is it not?"

Second he bought a majority of the news media.

There is nothing in O'Reilly's allegations about Soros buying entire news organizations much less entire networks or newspapers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Influencing_media

Criticism of Bush Administration
In an interview with The Washington Post on November 11, 2003,[18] Soros said that removing President George W. Bush from office was the "central focus of my life" and "a matter of life and death." He said he would sacrifice his entire fortune to defeat President Bush, "if someone guaranteed it", and many continue to state this as Soros's position even after Soros clarified the humorous nature of the statement in a Q&A session at the end of his March 3, 2004 address to California's Commonwealth Club.

Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.) On September 28, 2004 he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[19] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

The online transcript to this speech received many hits after Dick Cheney accidentally referred to FactCheck.org as "factcheck.com" in the Vice Presidential debate, causing the owner of that domain to redirect all traffic to Soros's site. [20]

Soros was not a large donor to US political causes until the U.S. presidential election, 2004, but according to the Center for Responsive Politics, during the 2003-2004 election cycle, Soros donated $23,581,000 to various 527 Groups dedicated to defeating President Bush. Despite Soros' efforts, Bush was reelected to a second term as president in U.S. presidential election, 2004.

After Bush's reelection in 2004, Soros and other wealthy liberal political donors backed a new political fundraising group called Democracy Alliance which aims to support the goals of the U.S. Democratic Party.[3]
Soros has been criticized for his large donations, as he also pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

Wkipedia wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#Influencing_media

Criticism of Bush Administration
In an interview with The Washington Post on November 11, 2003,[18] Soros said that removing President George W. Bush from office was the "central focus of my life" and "a matter of life and death." He said he would sacrifice his entire fortune to defeat President Bush, "if someone guaranteed it", and many continue to state this as Soros's position even after Soros clarified the humorous nature of the statement in a Q&A session at the end of his March 3, 2004 address to California's Commonwealth Club.

Soros gave $3 million to the Center for American Progress, committed $5 million to MoveOn, while he and his friend Peter Lewis each gave America Coming Together $10 million. (All were groups that worked to support Democrats in the 2004 election.) On September 28, 2004 he dedicated more money to the campaign and kicked off his own multi-state tour with a speech: Why We Must Not Re-elect President Bush[19] delivered at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

The online transcript to this speech received many hits after Dick Cheney accidentally referred to FactCheck.org as "factcheck.com" in the Vice Presidential debate, causing the owner of that domain to redirect all traffic to Soros's site. [20]

Soros was not a large donor to US political causes until the U.S. presidential election, 2004, but according to the Center for Responsive Politics, during the 2003-2004 election cycle, Soros donated $23,581,000 to various 527 Groups dedicated to defeating President Bush. Despite Soros' efforts, Bush was reelected to a second term as president in U.S. presidential election, 2004.

After Bush's reelection in 2004, Soros and other wealthy liberal political donors backed a new political fundraising group called Democracy Alliance which aims to support the goals of the U.S. Democratic Party.[3]
Soros has been criticized for his large donations, as he also pushed for the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 which was intended to ban "soft money" contributions to federal election campaigns. Soros has responded that his donations to unaffiliated organizations do not raise the same corruption issues as donations directly to the candidates or political parties.

Soros found a way to get around the campaign finance reform bill he $supported$, thereby dramatically reducing free political speech. The passage of this bill by the dumb Congress, its signature by the dumb President and its legalization by the dumb five dumb members of the US Supreme Court, knowingly or unknowing, bestowed significant political power on Soros's financed organizations..

Second he bought a majority of the news media.

CORRECTION

His plan is working!
First, he bought a majority of the MEMBERS OF THE Democratic Party and a minority of the MEMBERS OF THE Republican Party.

Second he bought a majority of the MEMBERS OF THE news media.

Third he is using those purchases to convince the American voters to turn us into a "Big Brother" state (e.g., a socialist TYRANNICAL state).