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Rosie O'Donnell, fire does melt steel

 
 
Gargamel
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 12:11 pm
McGentrix wrote:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040607_six_remotes.jpg

Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


We lefties prefer these:

http://www.fotosearch.com/thumb/phd/PHD389/OS48020.jpg

They're called "books." You can get them from a place called the "library."

You'll be much less susceptible to brainwashing, for which the television is notorious. And which explains your warped posts.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 12:15 pm
Gargamel wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040607_six_remotes.jpg

Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


We lefties prefer these:

http://www.fotosearch.com/thumb/phd/PHD389/OS48020.jpg

They're called "books." You can get them from a place called the "library."

You'll be much less susceptible to brainwashing, for which the television is notorious. And which explains your warped posts.


Lefties burn books to save a tree...
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 12:44 pm
That didn't make sense.

Now go back to your bible.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 05:39 pm
9/11 Bombshell: WTC7 Security Official Details Explosions Inside Building
Says bombs were going off in 7 before either tower collpased
Steve Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, June 19, 2007


The Alex Jones show today welcomed Loose Change creators Dylan Avery and Jason Burmas to discuss an exclusive interview they have conducted with an individual with high level security clearance who was inside the Office of Emergency Management in World Trade Center 7 and has descibed and detailed explosions inside the building prior to the collapse of any of the buildings at ground zero on 9/11.

The interview, to be featured in the forthcoming Final Cut of Loose Change is currently under wraps but the creators have allowed some details to leak purely to protect themselves and the individual involved who has asked to remain anonymous until the film is released.

We can reveal that the individual concerned was asked to report to building seven with a city official after the first attack on the North tower but before the second plane hit the South Tower and before their eventual collapse, in order to provide the official with access to different floors of the building.

The city official he was escorting was attempting to reach Rudy Guiliani, who he had determined was inside building 7 at that time. According to Avery and Burmas this official now works for Guiliani partners.

The individual was also asked to provide access to the Office Of Emergency Management on the 23rd floor of the building, this was the so called "bunker" that was built inside WTC7 on the orders of Rudy Guiliani.


When he got there he found the office evacuated and after making some calls was told to leave immediately.

It was at this point that he witnessed a bomb going off inside the building:

"We subsequently went to the stairwell and were going down the stairs, when we reached the sixth floor, the landing that we were standing on gave way, there was an explosion and the landing gave way. I was left there hanging, I had to climb back up and now had to walk back up to the eighth floor. After getting to the eighth floor everything was dark."

The individual in a second clip detailed hearing further explosions and then described what he saw when he got down to the lobby:

"It was totally destroyed, it looked like King Kong had been through it and stepped on it and it was so destroyed i didn't know where I was. It was so destroyed that had to take me out through a hole in the wall, a makeshift hole I believe the fire department made to get me out."

He was then told by firefighters to get twenty blocks away from the area because explosions were going off all over the World Trade Center complex.

The key to this information is that the individual testifies this all happened BEFORE either tower collapsed, thus building 7 was at that point completely undamaged from any falling debris or resulting fires. It also means that explosions were witnessed in WTC7 up to eight hours before its collapse at around 5.30pm.
Avery and Burmas, who played the two short clips of the interview prior to further analysis and more clips to be played on their own GCN radio show later tonight at 7pm CST, further described how the individual had witnessed dead bodies in the lobby of 7 and was told by the police not to look at them.

This is vital information be cause it is in direct conflict with the official claim that no one was killed inside building 7. The 9/11 Commission report did not even mention building, yet here we have a key witness who told them he saw dead people inside the building after explosions had gutted the lower level.

What makes all this information even more explosive is the fact that this individual was interviewed by the 9/11 Commission as they conducted their so called investigation.

The fact that the building was not even mentioned in the report in light of this information thus becomes chilling and indicates that officials have lied in stating that they have not come into contact with evidence of explosive devices within the buildings.

Avery and Burmas successfully contacted the individual after discovering a TV interview he did on 9/11 while they were trawling through news footage from the day in research for the Final Cut.

Avery says that he can and will prove beyond any shadow of doubt that the individual was in building 7 on 9/11 and that what he is saying is accurate.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 06:58 pm
yada yada yada

The towers were brought down by radical Islamic suicide bombers in jumbo jet airliners.

Is that so hard to believe?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:30 pm
Rex, obviously. WTC 7 wasn't hit by a jetliner now was it? I think eyewitness reports such as this latest one which tell of explosions in WTC 7 hours before any building collapsed are relevent. The mystery is why you dont. What explanation do you have for these eyewitness accounts? Are they un-American? Commie pinkos? With the terrorists?
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 08:37 pm
What kind of a clown would compare Rebar to I-beams??? Laughing

More bull$hit.

I could soften Rebar in my damn fireplace.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:40 pm
Jet fuel combine with drapes, couches, hard wood desks, thick Persian and deep pile rugs, some granite floors, dead people, wooden partitions and combustible structure reinforcements all burning like a kindled fire sitting in a cloud sucking this flame like the sky inhaling off a cigarette.

Of course it is going to weaken the burning floors so the top will implode on the center. It did what the physicists all said it woudl do. Pancake down to the ground.

It is a terrible thing to have to be so darned graphic about it but the fire caused by a jet plane trapped within the top floors of a building is very violent and the air sucking in at such a height would have acted as a catalyst to only intensify the effect of the interior fire. The fire would have raged with such heat that even flame retardant materials would have contributed to the over all heat equation. It would have been like a kiln inside those few affected vital floors.

There was enough of a draft to feed the flames and once fire started there was enough materials to burn to create a "mass sized fire" that at certain places certainly reached the level of heat to melt steel.

This was no ordinary draft this was a draft way up in the clouds. This draft would have caused a fire like a furnace and the melted steel is the result of this furnace caused by the draft of the clouds. Also speaking of clouds, there were none, so the air in the sky would have been dry and would have aided the fire also in that way.

A fire needs two things fuel and air to burn...

The fuel fire started with the jet fuel and once that burned out there was enough highly combustible materials in the building to continue the blaze to bring the fire up to the temperature levels necessary to melt steel.

Weren't there natural gas lines in the building also?

So there were the two things necessary to create a very large blaze, fuel (ie jet fuel and building materials) and steady flow vacuum of wind.

So once one floor burned it's contents fell to the next floor down that made that floor heavier. Then that burned also and fell to the next floor until this fire mass became so heavy that it was large enough where the gravity of the earth just pulled it to the surface of the earth like a rubber band snapping back at your finger after being stretched too far.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 09:45 pm
McGentrix wrote:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040607_six_remotes.jpg

Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


They need those! How else would they be able to watch the final spine-tingling episode of The Sopranos? How would they be able to tune into the Spice Channel? How could they get their cartoons??? After all, righties are too lazy to physically change the channel!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 05:06 am
There is an overwhelming amount of credible testimony about how the assault on WTC-7 by the falling debris from the closest of the towers had weakened the foundation and lower walls of WTC-7 visibly. "STrutural creep" then took over (with the assistance of a series of fires in WTC 7) and , if you ever noticed , WTC dropped in a sheet fashion with the primary strain side facing the other towers.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 06:54 am
NickFun wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040607_six_remotes.jpg

Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


They need those! How else would they be able to watch the final spine-tingling episode of The Sopranos? How would they be able to tune into the Spice Channel? How could they get their cartoons??? After all, righties are too lazy to physically change the channel!


So, are you just dense, or was the point just so far over your head all you could do is belch out this sad reply?

Makes you appear to be as bright as the average 2 year old with this lame shite.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:04 am
farmerman, but what to make of explosions in WTC 7 hours before any building collapsed?
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:51 am
blueflame1 wrote:
farmerman, but what to make of explosions in WTC 7 hours before any building collapsed?

Let's see.. explosions 7 hours before the building collapsed cause the building to collapse perfectly in on itself.

The argument makes no sense bf. If the explosions caused a perfect collapse then the collapse would have happened at the time of the explosions. If the explosions weakened the columns but didn't cause the collapse then the building wouldn't have collapsed perfectly in on itself since the columns wouldn't have all failed at the same time and the building would have collapse based on the first column failure.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 07:57 am
McGentrix wrote:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040607_six_remotes.jpg

Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


Too bad McG doesn't see the irony of the picture he posted. Having only one of these doesn't do you much good since none of them will control all the devices controlled by the other remotes.

The only universal remote may control the TV and DVD but it won't control the DVR and I doubt it will control the cable box. Was the point you were trying to make that righties only have enough intelligence to control 1/6th of their personal life?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:04 am
parados, I never said " explosions 7 hours before the building collapsed cause the building to collapse perfectly in on itself." I have no idea what caused the building to collapse. Eyewitnesses say there was extensive damage from these explosions. Unlike the 911 Commission I aint willing to cast away their testimony. What I say is let's have new and open investigations.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:11 am
For someone that has no idea why the buildings collapsed you sure like to post a lot of non sensical reasons why they did and promote some sort of a conspiracy without facts.

Sure. you have no idea why the buildings collapsed. Perhaps you should start your studies with simple physics. I might suggest studying gravity and its force. After that we can move on to more advanced physics like kinetic energy, strength of materials etc.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:22 am
parados, I ask questions that are asked many millions of Americans. My call for new investigations is mainstream in America. Another question I ask is what's the government afraid of? There are 2 sets of scientists with differing science. Let's get them together for a public debate.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 08:36 am
parados wrote:
McGentrix wrote:


Most righties have one of these and know how to use it. Pity they don't use it as often as I would prefer.


Too bad McG doesn't see the irony of the picture he posted. Having only one of these doesn't do you much good since none of them will control all the devices controlled by the other remotes.

The only universal remote may control the TV and DVD but it won't control the DVR and I doubt it will control the cable box. Was the point you were trying to make that righties only have enough intelligence to control 1/6th of their personal life?


Another bright star in the liberal constellation. Rolling Eyes

Congratulations on only further proving you are unable to grasp even a simple point.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 10:45 am
blueflame1 wrote:
farmerman, but what to make of explosions in WTC 7 hours before any building collapsed?


As I said there were probably live natural gas mains in the building...
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 20 Jun, 2007 11:29 am
Rex, "As I said there were probably live natural gas mains in the building...", hmmmm. And what set those off?
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