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Who Is Buried in Bush's Speech?

 
 
mamajuana
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jul, 2003 10:30 pm
Can't say it often enough, blatham.

John Dean - now there's a case history. As I recall, he was one of the brightest, and he hasn't lost the insights that made him so valuable.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2003 04:45 pm
Bush Calls Threat of New Attacks 'Real'
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush on Wednesday took personal responsibility for the first time for using discredited intelligence in his State of the Union address, but predicted he would be vindicated for going to war against Iraq. He also warned of possible new al-Qaida attacks, possibly involving airlines. "The threat is a real threat," Bush said.

Will wonders never cease. What do you think prompted the puppeteer to pull that string??
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2003 07:20 pm
The answer, AU
Au, perhaps the answer to your question can be found in my post "How Bush's presidential language manipulates the people":

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9947&highlight=

BumbleBeeBoogie
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LibertyD
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2003 10:17 pm
I'm sure that he thinks that if we're all scared enough, we'll forget about the flood of revelations about his unethical "leadership."

From an article in the NY Times:

"'I take personal responsibility for everything I say, of course,' he said.

He did not, however, express regrets, dwell on the matter, or refer to it as a mistake."

(referring to the Africa/Uranium reference in the State of the Union Speach)

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/30/politics/30CND-PREX.html

I think that your thread on his style of speech sums it up, BBB.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2003 10:25 am
He's a slow learner, but he's learning........
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2003 01:46 am
That's what Richard Perle said of him, didn't he?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2003 05:57 am
Think about the man's history. Bush 's reality lies between the manufactured and pink elephants.

Instead of impeachment we should be calling for a complete mental exam.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2003 07:48 am
You have the answer in your signature Gels:

Quote:
George W. Bush can't tell the difference.
Smile
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2003 01:50 pm
Hello,
Here['s a bit of political satire that real does make good sense.
It is all about SPIN and the Doctors of that fine art.

If only Bill Clinton had had the right people around him back in 1998 he
might have escaped impeachment and the taxpayers would have been spared
part of the $70 million plus bill that Ken Starr, the pious pornographer,
ran up trying to hang him.

Try to imagine:

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, appearing on CBS' Face The
Nation yesterday, said the president was technically correct in saying: "I
never had sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky," even though he later
admitted that he did.

"It's obsessive to focus on those nine words," Ms. Rice told Bob Schieffer,
"when there is so much more to the story. People trying to make a mountain
out of this molehill have been quick to assume that the president initiated
this incident, which may or may not have happened, I might add.

"What is more, if it did happen, and I'm not saying it did, it may very
well have been a matter of Ms. Lewinsky having sex with the president
rather than the other way around, which, as I pointed out, makes his
statement technically correct."

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer refused to be drawn into the debate.
"If the president said he didn't do it in the first place then that's it
regardless of what he might have said later," Fleischer said. "It's time to
move on."

Meanwhile, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, appearing on Meet the
Press, told host Tim Russert that intelligence sources, which he declined
to identify for national security reasons, had assured him that Lewinsky
was not even in Washington on the days that she and the president were
alleged to have been together, and that her claims -- and those of her
friend Linda Tripp -- to the contrary had been passed on by British
intelligence sources to CIA Director George Tenet, who failed to verify them.

Russert, citing an earlier interview in which he suggested that Clinton's
presidency was part of God's plan for the universe, agreed, saying that if
the president said he hadn't had sex with that woman, that was good enough
for him and that it should be good enough for anyone who presumes to call
himself or herself a God-fearing American. Tenet, he added, should be
ashamed of himself for putting the president's credibility at risk.

Informed of Rumsfeld's remarks and Russert's displeasure with his
performance, Tenet issued a statement taking full responsibility for what
he called his agency's failure to save the president from himself. And he
offered to resign or step in front of a commuter train.

When told of Tenet's offer, the president said "I've got confidence in
George Tenet, and I have always trusted the CIA. I get darned good
intelligence from them.

"Nobody's perfect," the president added. "What I said at the time about
that woman may not have been true but I believed that it was and that's
what counts. And anybody who says otherwise is just a historical
revisionist. As far as I'm concerned this case is closed and I'm not going
to talk about it anymore."
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2003 01:57 pm
Smile
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2003 10:37 pm
au,

Very funny. One wonders why Clinton didn't do this very thing. All over this country there are blatant efforts to overturn the will of the voter. In California the effort to change the outcome of an election is underway. I'm appalled. A broad representation of the voters of California expressed their will when they elected their governor and now there is this effort to stage an election at a time when mostly conservative voters will dominate. How much more obvious can it be? It's an effort to change the voting base from a broad, inclusive one to a narrow, selected group. It's only one of such efforts like the one in Texas by Tom DeLay. It seems obvious this is a coordinated effort which began even before the Clinton impeachment effort and continues to gain momentum. I can only hope the press continues to give it the long needed attention it deserves (I've been marveling for years now why it's taken so long), and that those who love our democratic government and who respect the civil rights of others will be alarmed enough to apply some major force into defeating these destructive efforts.
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2003 10:41 pm
Well, Lola, I just posted a thread with an impeach DeLay address on it.

http://www.petitiononline.com/tdl0000/petition.html.

I picked it up from another forum, and it says you don't have to be a resident of Texas to sign it.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 07:13 am
Lola -- We see if the same way. All of this stuff has been in the hopper for a long time. We knew it and kind of rattled around in a befuddled way. Very tired of that.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 07:42 am
Mamaj,

I just tried that link. But when I put in DeLay, I get words like "delaying" and when I entered "impeach DeLay" I got only the petition to impeach five court justices. Any clues?
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 11:47 am
http://www.petitiononline.com/tdl0000/petition-sign.html?


This is the petition. This one works. Guy who wrote it says they need I forget how many names by September, but they're on their way.
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Scrat
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 11:53 am
I hate to spoil the party and kill the illusion that you are actually doing something here, but under what exact provision, law, rule, etc. is this recall effort being taken? You can sign petitions until the cow comes home, but unless their is a legal provision for recalling Delay, AND you have standing to request that recall (and if you aren't from his home state, you don't) then the petition is just group masturbation. Of course, feel free to enjoy yourselves, but just know that you are wasting your time.

Oh, and I read the petition, and the only way I could see it being less worthy of being take seriously is if the guy had written it in crayon.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 11:57 am
as far as i can tell Bush is the only politico still writing with crayons.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 12:10 pm
If you hate to spoil the party, Scrat, what does it say about you that you go ahead and spoil the party (or at least try to!)?
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 12:27 pm
No, you don't have to be a resident of Texas to sign it (this is not for a state emplyee, but a federal one. And after the Clinton impeachment, it became apparent that anything goes. And a petition for a recall does not have to meet some vague, stringent requiements - the requirements are set out. They are quite specific for impeachment, which is limited mostly to president, vice president, senators, judges - federal employees. But a recall vote is what it says - a vote to recall the vote.

The author of this petition is a man who writes for an online pub (and I believe he's a Texan), who has looked into what has to be done for this.

Whether it works or not - who can tell? But the fact that it's been brought, and is being presented as a petition on so many sites, is interesting.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2003 12:45 pm
I think I'll get a bumper sticker (always my favorite form of self-expression)(perhaps not on a new car, but...) reading "Without DeLay."
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