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Rainforest Thread #78 -- Is April cruel?

 
 
sumac
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2007 03:18 pm
I thought that maybe the peregrine site went into bright sunlight.

Eaglets are strong looking - except for the third one lieing down.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 5 May, 2007 03:24 pm
That's a great site, ul.

Thanks!
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wordworker
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 04:14 am
Amazing lyric, ehBeth(and Billy). Thanks for the great memories.

"Hatchlings." I just love that word, Ul. Nice seeing you and some of your friends.

Howdy and Hugs to all.

ww <clicking>
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ul
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 06:40 am
The young falcons are already peeking out under their parent's wing.
Up north in Alberta, Canada, the falcon's nest is still empty.

Here the swifts ( Apus apus) are back. I can watch their elegant and fast flight maneuver when they enter their nest hidden in a small opening between two house ornaments.
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danon5
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 06:52 am
The falcon mom has a very contented look - Very Happy
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 11:08 am
a little treat to click on

http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/53/753/6/93/68/2674693680098509452feahYh_th.jpg

May 6th.

Happy birthday to broken-winged Roger, as well as hamburger.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 11:53 am
and a little something shared by a WildClicker

click

http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/59/659/4/42/90/2038442900098509452wcQQzC_th.jpg
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 01:01 pm
Terrific sites ehBeth and ul!

Falcon and Eagle moms working diligently. Smile

Mutts is just too cute! Nice landscape photos also!

Filing the last one you posted, ehBeth, for the next war debate - instead...

Wildclickers rock!! Very Happy
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 01:41 pm
Eaglets are rocking' and rollin'. You can see how windy it is here on the east coast.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 04:11 pm
We have been today to a Napoleon exhibition in a a town on the Weser river, an hour's drive away.

It was a beautiful 'summer' day today - and since the warm, sunny period will end tonight after three weeks, we went in the botannical garden today.

Which actually is a cemetery: the Napolionic government didn't want any cemetaries within the inner town borders. So they a new cemetary was palnned in 1804.
When the Prussians fortified the town in the 1820-something, this cemetary was exactly in the line of fire of their main guns. Thus, no walls were allowed, no tombs higher than 54 cm etc.
No-one bothered much about that.
In the 20th century a new cementary was built since this one was be then within the town borders again - and only very few funerals took place (only for families, who already had tombss there).

In 1950, the cemetary was closed and became a botonical garden.
It's now a listed monument, with the old tombs left as they are.

http://i14.tinypic.com/4osaan8.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/4mww4nc.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/5z3rerp.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/689gr9s.jpg
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 05:36 pm
Beautiful, Walter, and that is exactly the way all cemeteries should look. All at one with nature.
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danon5
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 07:00 pm
Thanks Walter, that is a hopefull sight for we USA'ers.... Although, I doubt anything like that will happen within the next 200 yrs or 500. Shocked Very Happy

ehBeth, you have given me a site to explore. It's gotta be really big. I'm in my PT Cruiser - having a great time - still in that adventure. Very Happy
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wordworker
 
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Reply Sun 6 May, 2007 11:13 pm
Wow! Look at all the great whoop-dee-doodles!

Thanks ehBeth. heh heh heh

Walter: What a beautiful cemetery--or as my kids used to call it: 'the quiet park." Definitely on my list of "places to visit before I die."
;-)


Don't know if you've heard about the Brit who lived in the woods, but now he is going to live in the jungle---for the benefit of the RAINFOREST.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/05/hugh-sawyer-jungle.php

ww
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 04:00 pm
What a georgous setting, Walter. Just beautiful.

ww, neat story, thanks. Recall one of ehBeth's Rainforest threads at Abizz titled "A Walk Through the Rainforest" (?} and the adventures that followed. Hilarious!! Very Happy

Weathers perfect with warm temps and light winds - a day romping with the herd outdoors, catching up on reading, then the sunset view from the porch. Smile

Have a great afternoon/evening, WildClickers
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danon5
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 05:29 pm
Most interesting things on this thread......

Yep, saved another tree..... Very Happy

Some good stuff from Wien =
http://newsletter.wien.info/u/gm.php?prm=cNeQH8niGL_121789499_5546_5011
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 07:10 pm
aktbird57 - You and your 300 friends have supported 2,741,313.6 square feet!

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1 1421 62.931 acres

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weird days at the leaderboard again!
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ul
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 06:19 am
Walter,
wonderful pictures.
"Quiet Garden" is a good term - and I am glad we have cemetries like this.

Danon, I hope the Wildclickers participate and win a trip to Vienna.
Last night I went to hear the New York Philharmonics under Lorin Mazel- wonderful.

Windy, wet, and cooler here. My friends from Australia are shivering, but are ready for a trip to Schönbrunn.
:wink:
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 05:38 pm
ul, I believe I remember Mazel was the first American to conduct the New Years Day Concert at the Musikverein. I have forgotten the year, but, it was such a success that later, during lunch at the Sacher, Mazel walked in and everyone in the room stood and applauded him. I was then a guest of the owner of a mineral water drink person - RomerQuelle. His son had spent some time at my home in Gig Harbor, Washington - and, this was our present from him. I am pictured on the cover of the album from that time - sitting in one of the seats. It was a very moving experience and one that I shall always remember.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 8 May, 2007 06:17 pm
aktbird57 - You and your 300 friends have supported 2,741,711.6 square feet!

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1 Aktbird57 .. 1805 62.934 acres
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sumac
 
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Reply Wed 9 May, 2007 04:02 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/science/08tier.html?th=&emc=th&pagewanted=print


"By coating her hands in the genital secretions of female tortoises and gently stroking him, she managed to demonstrate a couple of ...."



"May 8, 2007
Findings
A Lonesome Tortoise, and a Search for a Mate

By JOHN TIERNEY

It is a truth universally acknowledged, at least among humans, that a giant tortoise in the possession of the last sperm of his species must be in want of a wife. But what if the tortoise prefers a different lifestyle?

When I met Lonesome George two decades ago, in his pen on the main island of the Galápagos, I had the usual impulse to fix up the world's most famous bachelor. I chartered a fishing boat for a miserable trip out to Pinta Island, the wilderness 100 miles away where George had been discovered in 1971 living by himself.

As I fought my way through Pinta's overgrown vines and cactus pads, fervently hoping to spot a female Pinta tortoise behind a lava rock or a thorn bush, I was already working on her name. Georgette seemed too derivative. I liked the local evolutionary allusion of Darwinia, but finally settled on less of a mouthful: Eve.

I didn't find her, of course, so I went back to George's pen to bid a sad farewell to him and his species. Then I penned a long ?- and quite moving, I thought ?- contemplation of the ethics of conservation, the destructiveness of man and the meaning of life.

Now it seems the obituary was premature. I was looking on the wrong island. Last week, after sampling the genes of a few tortoises on Isabela Island, biologists announced that there is probably at least one Pinta tortoise somewhere among the thousands of tortoises there. Next year the researchers hope to find a female to take back to George's pen.

This is happy news for humanity, but not necessarily for George. We can shed a little of our collective guilt for nearly wiping out his species. George must deal with an identity crisis and performance anxiety.

What happens to his status as conservation icon ?- and his title as the rarest living creature? He could lose it all: his record, his name, his brand. Until now he's been the main tourist draw at the Darwin Research Station, the prime example of what fund-raisers call charismatic megafauna.

Sans pathos, will he still be lucrative? His handlers hope that a new romance will inspire even more visitors and donations, but ?- and this is what really worries me ?- there might not be much romance when Eve arrives.

George is not what you would call a stud. When I visited him in 1985, he was thought to be a relatively young adult, maybe 50 years old, but he was already a confirmed bachelor. He hadn't shown any interest in two females of a similar species placed in his pen. One had flipped over and drowned in the wading pool. The keepers weren't positive that George had driven this tortoise to her death, but he definitely hadn't been doing any Barry White serenades.

A few years later, in 1993, there was briefly a companion known as "Lonesome George's girlfriend," but she was not a tortoise. She was a 26-year-old graduate student in zoology from Switzerland named Sveva Grigioni.

By coating her hands in the genital secretions of female tortoises and gently stroking him, she managed to demonstrate a couple of times (in the course of several months' work) that George was capable of an erection. But whereas her touch could induce other male tortoises to reach orgasm within a few minutes, with George she never managed to collect any sperm.

Her ministrations ?- or maybe it was the pheromones in the secretions ?- did seem to pique George's interest in the female tortoises, as Ms. Grigioni reported to Henry Nicholls, the author of the definitive new biography, "Lonesome George: The Life and Loves of a Conservation Icon." But George's temporary interest did not translate into performance.

"He started to try copulation," Ms. Grigioni said, "but it was like he didn't really know how to."

To be fair to George, he's never been observed with a female of his race, Geochelone nigra abingdoni. (It has been traditionally classified a subspecies of giant tortoise, but many biologists now consider it a separate species.) After the news last week, I sought a prognosis from Ms. Grigioni on the prospects for abingdoni love.

"No one knows how George would react," she replied tactfully. "The only way to know is to try. It is possible that he would recognize abingdoni pheromones, but there is no evidence that different species have different pheromones." That didn't sound too promising, but Ms. Grigioni tried to be optimistic. If a Pinta female arrives in George's pen, she said, "nature will do the best she can."

Bryan Milstead, the biologist who oversees the vertebrates at the Darwin Research Station, told me he had enough confidence in the abingdoni allure to bet me $20 on George's going for it. I was tempted by the wager ?- my money would be on George retreating into a thornbush ?- but I couldn't bring myself to bet in favor of extinction.

No, I'm hoping George will help us expiate the sins of our species, particularly the ancestors calling themselves scientists. The tortoise populations in the Galápagos were devastated first by hungry whalers and pirates, and then by museum collectors who were far more energetic than the sailors in scouring the islands for the few remaining animals. Until George was discovered, the last tortoises seen alive on Pinta were the ones captured and killed a century ago by an expedition from the California Academy of Science.

Now, though, it looks as if humans inadvertently helped save the species, too. The Pinta species was presumably transplanted to safety by a sailor, perhaps one who lightened his ship's load by throwing tortoises overboard near Isabela. And without the Pinta DNA preserved in those museum specimens, biologists wouldn't have enough genetic information from George alone to identify a Pinta tortoise on its new island.

If Eve is found, humans just have to do a little more work. George needs to be primed. Sending Ms. Grigioni back to work would be a start, and George could also learn by watching other males in action, as some biologists have proposed. Dr. Nicholls even raises the possibility of showing instructive videos to George ?- and if tortoise porn is what it takes, I say go for it.

But given George's antisocial personality ?- he doesn't like being around any other tortoises, male or female ?- we need to be considerate. If ultimately he's just not that into Eve, then let Lonesome George be lonesome. We can't expect him to save the species for our sake. It has to be good for him, too."
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