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Democratic achievements in Congress

 
 
nimh
 
Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 07:39 pm
Ever so often I come across a news article that presents some new law or bill or other that has come about thanks to the new Democratic majority in Congress.

Rarely do I post them here, because there doesnt usually seem to be a thread around on exactly that topic to post 'em in, and to start a whole new thread about this bill or other, rather than about some overarching subject, seems too much.

So, rather than return to the Democratic gloating thread, I thought I'd just start a "container thread" for any concrete result that's been achieved by the new Democratic majority.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 07:42 pm
This article is a bit messy, badly written, it makes the subject matter overly obscure. But I picked out excerpts that should make it clear, more or less.

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House OKs striking law on U.S. attorneys
Change is at the heart of controversy on firings

Thanks to the new bill, this power of the White House to bypass the Senate confirmation process when appointing interim attorneys will now again be rescinded.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 07:43 pm
In an otherwise awful article that reminds me why I hardly ever read The Nation online, the author does make one important point thats well worth highlighting:

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Exiting Iraq: An Extraordinary Political Moment

Take a deep breath. The nation has arrived at an extraordinary political moment. The Congress is about to instruct the President he should withdraw from the ongoing war. Yes, I know the fine print in the House and Senate versions has lots of wiggle room. But the congressional action is still breathtaking when you think about it [..].

I assumed it would take many months and numerous failed efforts for the new Democratic majority to reach this juncture. [..] I remember the torturous struggle in the Sixties waged by congressional opponents--Republicans and Democrats--trying to end the war in Vietnam. Their first resolutions were mild and deferential, politely urging Lyndon Johnson to start negotiating for peace. They were rejected. Subsequent measures raised the ante, but it took years of frustrating failure to get Congress to speak clearly. By comparison, the shift in politics this time moved like lightning.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 07:46 pm
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NEW BUDGET RULES: House Dems adopt limits on 'earmarks,' deficit spending

San Francisco Chronicle
January 6, 2007

House Democrats, seeking to show they will be better stewards of taxpayers' money than their Republican predecessors, approved new budget rules Friday that require any new spending or tax cuts to be paid for by other spending cuts or tax increases.

The so-called pay-as-you-go budget rules were passed with broad support as part of a package that also requires lawmakers to disclose which "earmarks," or spending items, they have added to bills. The explosion of earmarks in recent years -- including the infamous "bridge to nowhere" in Alaska -- fueled voters' anger and contributed to Republicans' election losses last fall.

The rules changes were a one-two punch by new House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, signaling the Democrats' plans to break from the deficit spending that has marked the last six years under President Bush and the GOP-led Congress. [..]

Earmark reform also became a hot election-year issue, especially after former San Diego County Republican Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham was convicted and sent to prison for doling out earmarks to defense contractors in return for more than $2 million in bribes. Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff called the appropriations committees earmarks "favor factories."

The new rules require members to publicly disclose their earmark requests and to certify that neither they nor their spouses will benefit financially from the requests. The measure also bars House leaders from providing earmarks to lawmakers in exchange for their votes on other legislation.

The earmark reforms drew rare praise from Republicans. Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., who has led a yearslong crusade against earmarks, said the new majority went further in opening up the secretive process than GOP leaders were willing to go last year.

"Democrats had more guts than we did," Flake said. [..]

The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service noted that earmarks skyrocketed under Republican control of Congress, from 4,126 in 1994 to 15,877 in 2005, and their value doubled to $47.4 billion. [..]


Democrats were giddy at having notched back-to-back legislative wins, first on new ethics rules Thursday and then on budget and earmark reform Friday. [..]

The rule changes apply only to the House and do not need approval from the Senate or the president. The Senate is scheduled beginning Monday to take up its own ethics package, which includes a version of earmark reform.

Pelosi, in a statement late Friday, crowed about her party's early successes.

"These reforms are just our first steps," she said. "In the coming months, we will propose legislation to close the revolving door between government officials and lobbying firms and shine a light on lobbyists' efforts to influence legislation."
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Builder
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2007 08:03 pm
I'm thinking that until the "war on terror" is seen for what it truly is, and supposed "wartime" changes to the way the President is entitled to treat Congress's directives and descisions are rescinded, the Dems are fighting an uphill battle.

They might as well just outright push for dropping of the Patriot Act 11, so decisions they make in the interests of the country, don't get swept under the carpet by presidential veto.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:09 am
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?

That would be an interesting read.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:22 am
McGentrix wrote:
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?

That would be an interesting read.


isn't that your job hero? Or should I say hero wannabe?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 07:40 am
That's it? 3 things and one will never pass into law?

And I should be impressed because..............................
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 07:47 am
Nimh, et al, here's some more at this link:
http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=sr-108-1-414
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 07:52 am
McGentrix wrote:
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?

That would be an interesting read.

Still beating that dead horse, eh?

NPR analyzied this alleged pork... found it to be beef.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 08:24 am
woiyo wrote:
That's it? 3 things and one will never pass into law?

And I should be impressed because..............................

Dude.

Its a container thread I started. That people - me or others - can add things to as they come across them.

I'm supposed to have started off right with a comprehensive overview of everything the Dems have done so far? You joking? What am I, A2K's resident librarian?

OK, in the category "signs are for the stupid", I'll add this disclaimer: just that I've only added the items I've added, doesnt mean there aren't any other Democratic achievements.

There. Rolling Eyes
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 08:28 am
McGentrix wrote:
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?


Looks to me like, even if all the $21 Billion were indeed pork, which, as Drew pointed out, it wasnt, the Dems would still have some space left before they'd equal the record that the previous Republican Congress set:

nimh wrote:
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The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service noted that earmarks skyrocketed under Republican control of Congress, from 4,126 in 1994 to 15,877 in 2005, and their value doubled to $47.4 billion. [..]

Way I see it, anything down from that again, is a plus.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 08:49 am
nimh wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?


Looks to me like, even if all the $21 Billion were indeed pork, which, as Drew pointed out, it wasnt, the Dems would still have some space left before they'd equal the record that the previous Republican Congress set:

nimh wrote:
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The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service noted that earmarks skyrocketed under Republican control of Congress, from 4,126 in 1994 to 15,877 in 2005, and their value doubled to $47.4 billion. [..]

Way I see it, anything down from that again, is a plus.


I'm sorry, did you say "as Drew pointed out, it wasnt,"? Shocked Laughing
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 11:50 am
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Earmark monitor's exit baffles, troubles GOP

The federal agency that tracked pork-barrel spending during the 12 years of the Republican congressional majority has discontinued the practice since Democrats took power, riling lawmakers suspicious of the timing and concerned about the pace of fat being added to bills.

"To me, something doesn't smell right," said Sen. Jim DeMint, South Carolina Republican. "I just hope no one is pressuring" the Congressional Research Service (CRS).

While not blaming the Democratic leadership, Mr. DeMint added: "I guess if you're looking for a motive, you'd have to look in that direction."
CRS, a nonpartisan agency of the Library of Congress created to conduct research for members of Congress on legislative issues, changed its policy in February -- a month after Democrats took control of the Congress and vowed to curb the number of special-interest projects inserted into spending bills or even reports that don't require a vote.
CRS Director Daniel P. Mulhollan developed the policy after consulting with "internal CRS appropriations experts" and deciding the service was redundant with what other agencies do, CRS spokeswoman Janine D'Addario said.

"His decision was strictly an internal decision," said Miss D'Addario, whose agency began providing Congress members with information on earmarks in 1994, when Mr. Mulhollan took over as director.
CRS said the Office of Management and Budget recently has been taking on a greater role in monitoring earmarks. And with both chambers of Congress this year establishing new guidelines and clearer definitions of earmarks, the agency said its role as a scorekeeper of earmarks is obsolete.

Several lawmakers, particularly those who had come to rely on the agency to identify the dollar value of earmarks in appropriations and other laws, were caught off guard by the change.

"It's troubling -- I can't think of any justification for that," said Rep. Jeff Flake, Arizona Republican. "They've done good research in the past. ... That's what they're here for -- the benefit of the members" of Congress.
Democratic leaders with the House and Senate appropriations committees say they did not persuade Mr. Mulhollan to drop his agency's earmark practice.

Sen. Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia Democrat and chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, wasn't aware of the research service's change in policy until this week, spokesman Tom Gavin said.
"Senator Byrd is a strong supporter of CRS, and he in no way, shape or form tried to get them to change policy," Mr. Gavin said.

Republicans said they want an independent observer because pork is often in the eye of the beholder and estimates of the amount vary widely.
Citizens Against Government Waste put the figure for 2006 at $29 billion, while Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee said it was $17 billion. Mr. DeMint, citing a CRS report, said the amount totaled more than $67 billion.

Mr. DeMint said no other agency or group has the resources, expertise and access to provide Congress with data on earmarks.
"This is really baffling that CRS would do this," he said.
The Office of Management and Budget debuted a search engine on its Web site this year to track earmarks during fiscal 2005 and may expand the engine later. But the office has no plans to assume CRS' former role of earmarks scorekeeper for Congress, OMB spokesman Sean Kevelighan said.

"I haven't heard of any specific services that we're offering for members" of Congress, Mr. Kevelighan said.
Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, said he first became aware the agency no longer would be conducting earmark research for Congress when it rejected a request he recently submitted for earmark data.
The senator held a "heated but direct" meeting with Mr. Mulhollan last week to voice his concerns, said Coburn spokesman John Hart, who was at the meeting.

"Mr. Mulhollan denied receiving any outside pressure [for the change in policy], but the evidence suggests otherwise," Mr. Hart said.
When Democrats took control of the 110th Congress in January, they promised to limit the long-standing and bipartisan practice of slipping pork spending into bills. But when the House last week passed a $124 billion emergency war-funding provision, the bill included as much as $20 billion in nonmilitary and pork-barrel spending, a move widely criticized by Republicans, including President Bush.

"This bill has too much pork, too many conditions and an artificial timetable for withdrawal," the president said last week.
The emergency war-funding provision included $74 million for the peanut industry, $124 million for the shrimp industry and $25 million for spinach producers. The war-funding bill is proof an independent third-party observer like the Congressional Research Service is needed to keep track of earmarks, many in Congress say.

"I can tell you it's very difficult to get this type of information from the [House] Appropriations Committee -- very difficult," Mr. Flake said.
Mr. DeMint and others say they're not ready to let the issue die.
"We're not going to let it go," Mr. DeMint said. "And if they don't eventually change their mind, then that would mean that something really is behind it."
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:04 pm
DrewDad wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Have you found an article that explains why Pelosi had to bribe so many of her fellow congress people with $21 Billion dollars of pork in an emergency appropriations bill?

That would be an interesting read.

Still beating that dead horse, eh?

NPR analyzied this alleged pork... found it to be beef.


Do you have a link to their analysis?
Did they say that the money allotted for capitol tours wasnt pork?
Did they say that the roughly $300,000 for two widows of former congressmen wasnt pork?

I would love to se the NPR analysis.


But,lets see what else the dems have done.
They have passed two different versions of a bill for war funding.
Those bills must go to a conference committee and have the differences worked out,before it goes to the President.
The dems have said they wont begin to work on it till AFTER their spring break,that is April 16,at the earliest.
The Pentagon has said they need that money by April 15,or there will be cuts in maintenance,training,and equipment.

Do you wanna try explaining why the dems are abandoning the military like that?

Bush should wait till they go on their spring break,then use his constitutional authority to call them back into session and force them to come up with a bill.

Under article 2,section 3 of the constitution,he has that power.
The dems claim to care about the military,yet they are going on their spring break without passing a bill.
The military isnt getting a spring break,why are the dems taking one?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:07 pm
the military doesn't get to hang out in Crawford a half dozen times a year and cut brush either.....
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:13 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
the military doesn't get to hang out in Crawford a half dozen times a year and cut brush either.....


So,is it safe to think that you approve of how the dems are handling this?

Also,you seem to want to ignore the fact that no matter where the President is,he still has all the communications facilities and command facilities that he has in Washington.
So,even when he is "cutting brush" he still knows whats going on in the world and can be instantly notified about anything important.
Congressmen dont have that ability,nor do they deserve it.

Bush should FORCE congress to stay in DC until they come up with a bill.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:25 pm
McGentrix wrote:
nimh wrote:
Looks to me like, even if all the $21 Billion were indeed pork, which, as Drew pointed out, it wasnt, the Dems would still have some space left before they'd equal the record that the previous Republican Congress set:

Quote:
The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service noted that earmarks skyrocketed under Republican control of Congress, from 4,126 in 1994 to 15,877 in 2005, and their value doubled to $47.4 billion. [..]

I'm sorry, did you say "as Drew pointed out, it wasnt,"? Shocked Laughing

Yup, I did. "Even if all the $21 Billion were indeed pork, which, as Drew pointed out, it wasnt". Is that the part you're Shocked and Laughing about?

I mean, for sure - no argument from me - there is way, way, way and way too much pork in this bill. And thats a bad thing.

Some of the "pork" in itself actually sounds like laudable spending - its not all subsidies for spinach growers or citrus farmers. $500 million to combat Western wildfires or $747 million for health care for low-income children sounds good to me - its just that it had no place in this bill.

But yes, even if all of that $21 billion in spending that the Democrats added ($18 billion in the Senate's version) were pork, it is still a long way off from the $47.4 billion in pork the Republican Congress passed last year. That seems pretty simple to me.

And yes, as Drew pointed out, not all of those $21 billion is actually pork.

At least, not according to me.

But you help me out here. You tell me. When it comes to some of the extra spending that the Democrats have added to the bill:

  • $3.4 billion for veterans' hospitals. That pork?
  • $2.5 billion to improve National Guard readiness. That pork?
  • $2 billion for national security efforts such as port security, explosives detection for airline baggage and rail and mass transit security grants. That pork?
  • $1.4 billion for military housing. That pork?
Because it's all part of the $21 billion the Democratic majority added to the bill (or the $18 million that the Senate would have it be), which you're laughing away as being all pork.

Look - nothing secretive about this. I took the above numbers from an article in the News & Observer (NC). The table these numbers are in goes with an article that positively excoriates the Senate for its lack of seriousness. It's an angry article. The same table also does list plenty of items that definitely are pork, though it's worth noting that all of them concern smaller amounts than the items mentioned above (eg, $74 million for peanut storage costs). But even this article, this table, has no problem lining out what definitely un-porky sums are included in that extra spending as well.

Note: the above items alone are already, together, $9.3 billion. That's about half of the total extra spending that you ridicule as nothing but pork.

So yes, obviously, Drewdad is right: lots of the $21 billion is beef, not pork.

Even if everything else except from the items in my bulletpoint list above were pork (which is unlikely), you'd then be talking about, at the very max, "only" $12 billion. Still a lot of effing money - but again - max $12 billion in Democratic pork <weighs in one hand> - $47 billion in Republican pork last year <weighs in other hand> - sure looks like the Dems still have a very good chance of doing a lot better than the Reps did last year.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 06:44 pm
There should be NO additional spending attached to this bill. If they want to fund projects, they can create seperate spending bills. That what pork is.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2007 07:33 pm
McGentrix wrote:
There should be NO additional spending attached to this bill. [..] That what pork is.

Sounds like a novel definition of "pork" to me.

I understand "pork" to be more like how Wikipedia defines it (yes, it's Wikipedia, feel free to doublecheck it in the Brittanica):

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[P]ork barrel politics describes American government spending that is intended to benefit constituents of a politician in return for their political support, either in the form of campaign contributions or votes. [..] Typically it involves funding for government programs whose economic or service benefits are concentrated in a particular area [..]. Public works projects and agricultural subsidies are the most commonly cited examples [..]. A politician who supplies his or her constituents with considerable funding is said to be "bringing home the bacon."

Perhaps you're confused with the concept of "earmarks", per se?
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