Confidence in your beliefs.

Diest TKO wrote:

The universe seems to hold itself together fine without a god. Without a god, plenty exists. in fact, everything.

Yet our drive to believe we are part of a greater purpose, runs very deeply indeed.

Chumly wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:

The universe seems to hold itself together fine without a god. Without a god, plenty exists. in fact, everything.

Yet our drive to believe we are part of a greater purpose, runs very deeply indeed.

Such is the folly of religion. We think we something else; something supernatural for us to experience great purpose.

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Scott777ab,

What does it mean, "the force of life"? This terminology is undefined. It is not useful to this discussion to define it by another undefined term ("God").

What if I told you that "glarfo" is "zork", and "zork" is "glarfo"?

neo and i are ignoring you.

i can't tell you "because". i am ignoring you. okay, wait...

i'm ignoring you startiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnng -- NOW.

lol...echi i find this humorous bc most of our conversations have been initiated by you. and i think your ignoring me bc i'm not intimidated by your grumpiness towards me....and i haven't backed down on what i believe

Until I get back, I stand wityh my current sig line, which I quote below in the event I change it as I often do:

Let us shun any hypothesis that makes man a puppet and God a tyrant crueler than any in history. - Erasmus

. . . as i said before we have freewill(we aren't puppets) but our freewill doesn't negate Gods foreknowledge in all things.

kate4christ03 wrote:

. . . as i said before we have freewill(we aren't puppets) but our freewill doesn't negate Gods foreknowledge in all things.

Before God decided to create the world, did he already know what your next post will be?

echi wrote:

kate4christ03 wrote:

. . . as i said before we have freewill(we aren't puppets) but our freewill doesn't negate Gods foreknowledge in all things.

Before God decided to create the world, did he already know what your next post will be?

My brother who isn't a Christian, but rather an atheist like me, once explained the concept of biblical free will as god doesn't know what choices you'll make, but he knows the outcomes of all the choices you could make and all the choices that that leads to.

For example, if the choice before me is to eat either an orange or an apple, god doesn't know what one I'll choose, but he knows what will happen no matter what one I choose.

This kept me stumped for a while, but then I realized that simply saying that god knows all possible outcomes of all things is radically different than saying god knows exactly what will happen in the world.

By the way, do you see any difference between these expressions, "before the founding of the world," and before the creation "of the heavens and the earth." If you don't see any difference consider researching them. There is a difference.