Confidence in your beliefs.

I have no quarrel with your beliefs, just the process by which you believe.

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kate4christ03 wrote:

neo john 5:28 doesn't say that...
and the greek shows that satan is god of this age....not world...scroll back to my last post. God hasn't been willfully ignorant, you believe that. I believe God knew everything bf he created anything (not very ignorant) i claim God is Omniscient. Im the one, neo ,with the scriptures that show God knows everything bf he created. You can believe them or believe what you've been taught. its up to you.

When did god create "everything?"

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Great question, c.i.!
But I'm pretty sure that by "everything", kate means "all of nature", or some such -- God, of course, being separate from nature (whatever that means).

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ci genesis 1:1 shows the process of creation.
and i wrote "God knew everything before he created anything"
meaning that God knew all that would happen (in every situation) before he created anything. ie Before he created the earth and man, he knew adam and eve would sin and he had already pre ordained Jesus to die.

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kate4christ03 wrote:

ci genesis 1:1 shows the process of creation.
and i wrote "God knew everything before he created anything"
meaning that God knew all that would happen (in every situation) before he created anything. ie Before he created the earth and man, he knew adam and eve would sin and he had already pre ordained Jesus to die.

Sounds pretty meaningless. God knew and knows all, so what is the point? He created man in his image and gave him free will, but still he knows what will happen? How can people say that this and that 'angers the lord' if he already knew it was going to happen? And why would an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent God need submission? And why and why and why...
The traditional doctrine of christianity is so pointless I struggle to find words.

Note 'the traditional doctrine', neologist seems to have thought this through a bit more thoroughly. I'm not saying I agree with him, but I certainly respect him more than ye average bible thumper.

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The traditional doctrine of christianity is so pointless I struggle to find words.

Note 'the traditional doctrine', neologist seems to have thought this through a bit more thoroughly.

neo has no scripture. all i've stated is from scripture and it's obviously you haven't been following the convo or you would see that.

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I'm not saying I agree with him, but I certainly respect him more than ye average bible thumper.

and to think, i have made it my life's mission to earn the respect of a stranger on the internet. i'm truly broken Rolling Eyes

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kate4christ03 wrote:

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I'm not saying I agree with him, but I certainly respect him more than ye average bible thumper.

and to think, i have made it my life's mission to earn the respect of a stranger on the internet. i'm truly broken

I'm not saying you should care, but the fact that you wrote a response might suggest that you do.

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generally, on a discussion board, a person responds to comments addressed to them. so please don't mistake my interest in discussions with that of concern for your opinion of me.

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kate4christ03 wrote:

. . . and to think, i have made it my life's mission to earn the respect of a stranger on the internet. i'm truly broken

Haven't you?

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)

See you in Hell.

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echi where in those verses does it say i'm to care about the opinions of strangers, who think my beliefs are meaningless?

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Are you not a witness for Jesus?

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Coolwhip wrote:

The traditional doctrine of christianity is so pointless I struggle to find words.

Probably because you have so many misconceptions about it.

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real life wrote:

Coolwhip wrote:

The traditional doctrine of christianity is so pointless I struggle to find words.

Probably because you have so many misconceptions about it.

More likely from the bible's mis-information.

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echi wrote:

Are you not a witness for Jesus?

er no. You mean for the defence?

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echi wrote:

Great question, c.i.!
But I'm pretty sure that by "everything", kate means "all of nature", or some such -- God, of course, being separate from nature (whatever that means).

Interesting choice of avatars, echi. As you know, I provided Treya, formerly known as Hephzibah, with her cool avatar. May I suggest one for your consideration?

http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/madcow.gif

Or, one more eco friendly:

http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/falls.gif

I have others.

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Thanks, neo. I will probably switch back to king friday, sooner or later. I like the devil puppet for now; it seems fitting. Then again, if you really hate it I might be willing to change -- maybe. (But it IS just a puppet, ya know? I mean.....COME ON!)

[annoying rolls eyes emoticon]

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kate4christ03 wrote:

generally, on a discussion board, a person responds to comments addressed to them. so please don't mistake my interest in discussions with that of concern for your opinion of me.

Well, if you feel that 'ye average bible thumper' is a good description of you than it ok. But I really didn't have you in mind when I wrote it.

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echi wrote:

Thanks, neo. I will probably switch back to king friday, sooner or later. I like the devil puppet for now; it seems fitting. Then again, if you really hate it I might be willing to change -- maybe. (But it IS just a puppet, ya know? I mean.....COME ON!)

[annoying rolls eyes emoticon]

I just thought you might like one with some movement. How about . . .

http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/torch.gif

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Are you not a witness for Jesus?

echi being a witness for Christ means that i'm to love everyone, even the occasional rude skeptic (cough cough)...and i'm to tell others of the gospel. But i don't worry or care about the opinions of others in regards to my beliefs.

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See you in Hell.

i have a better proposition. why not accept the gift of salvation that JEsus offers and meet me in heaven. I hear it's a lot nicer up there.

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Kate...you have such a good heart. I am so happy that you keep fighting the good fight! You are so very right, we are to love everyone no matter what they beleive.

I have noticed these subjects on personal beliefs always have the same outcome. But - that doesn't mean that good will not come of sharing our hearts with each other...on both sides. Great group of folks - though all are avid in their own beliefs. I hope we do love each other well in spite of the differences. I think you are doing that Kate.

I just wanted to encourage you. I know I feel swamped when I get on this end of the conversation! Good Words! God bless them every one!

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