mm wrote on May 7: and btw if sitting on my ass while being clueless about what's really going on in Iraq is good enough for the president then by God it's good enough for me. I'm a patriot.
then he writes today: And yes,I do agree that the GOP is in disarray.
And yes,I do agree that much of the blame can be placed at the feet of George Bush. He is NOT a conservative,no matter how much he tries to convince everyone he is.
But, as he said on May 7, he agrees with Bush, because he's a patriot.
What's wrong with this duck's affirmation that 1) much of the blame can be placed at the feet of George Bush, and 2) "..Iraq is good enough for the prsident then by God it's good enough for me." This duck wants it both ways.
cicerone imposter wrote:mm wrote on May 7: and btw if sitting on my ass while being clueless about what's really going on in Iraq is good enough for the president then by God it's good enough for me. I'm a patriot.
then he writes today: And yes,I do agree that the GOP is in disarray.
And yes,I do agree that much of the blame can be placed at the feet of George Bush. He is NOT a conservative,no matter how much he tries to convince everyone he is.
But, as he said on May 7, he agrees with Bush, because he's a patriot.
What's wrong with this duck's affirmation that 1) much of the blame can be placed at the feet of George Bush, and 2) "..Iraq is good enough for the prsident then by God it's good enough for me." This duck wants it both ways.
The quote you are trying to give me credit for,the one dated May 7,was NOT written by me,and you know it.
It was actually written by Bi-Polar Bear,and I quoted him in my response.
Since you seem incapable of actually checking that yourself,here is the quote by BPB,along with a link to that page...
Quote:and btw if sitting on my ass while being clueless about what's really going on in Iraq is good enough for the president then by God it's good enough for me. I'm a patriot.
http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2646938&highlight=#2646938
Now,I expect you to admit your mistake and correct your post.
I admit my mistake. Hoorah!
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Forum: Politics Posted: May 7th 2007, 21:55 Subject: Should we be involved?
and btw if sitting on my ass while being clueless about what's really going on in Iraq is good enough for the president then by God it's good enough for me. I'm a patriot.
If its good enough for y ...
A right wing lynch mob is going after Sutton for political gain. All Sutton did was prosecute two corrupt border agents, who were convicted fair and square.
I discussed the true facts of this matter earlier, and I hate to see this fearless prosecutor wrongly accused. I think that Lou Dobbs started this when, for months, he made the agents look like angels and Sutton like a runaway prosecutor. Dobbs dug such a hole that his reputation would be at risk were he to now admit that he erred. He once interviewed Sutton, whom he interrupted so often that Sutton couldn't adequately make his case. Disgusting!
Back on topic,
McNulty's out. Wonder who else will fall this week, before Goodling testifies?
Cycloptichorn
From the AP article on McNulty's resignation.
McNulty also irked Gonzales by testifying in February that at least one of the fired prosecutors was ordered to make way for a protege of Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser. Gonzales, who has resisted lawmakers' calls to resign, maintains the firings were proper, and rooted in the prosecutors' lackluster performances.
Another interesting side note in a Federal trial in Minneapolis.
Quote:In his closing arguments, Gerdts contended that politics had infected the case.
Because child pornography is universally reviled, Gerdts said, it's easy to make it a public priority, "particularly when you're unable to manage the office."
Judge sustains objection
Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle Jones sprang to her feet and objected at the reference to her embattled boss, U.S. Attorney Rachel Paulose, who is grappling with an upheaval among several career prosecutors. Doty told the jury to disregard Gerdts' remarks.
Outside of court, Gerdts noted that Paulose has declared that the prosecution of child-pornography cases is a top priority of her office. In the case of Furukawa, he said, the government "failed to exercise proper prosecutorial discretion."Mr. Furukawa spent more than a year in jail," Gerdts said, "and he's not guilty."
NY man cleared of child-porn charges
Comey's testifying right now about this case, and what he knew about it before he left; and I must say, there certainly were a lot of conversations with Bush and Rove, who ignored Comey's advice...
Cycloptichorn
Is that in front of the house or the senate?
Senate Judiciary
Arlen Spector was the only Republican who showed up, lol
Cycloptichorn
Hah! Is it over now then? I saw already there's an article out about Comey not reauthorizing the spying program while Ashcroft was in the hospital. I wonder what other juicy bits I missed.
FreeDuck wrote:Hah! Is it over now then? I saw already there's an article out about Comey not reauthorizing the spying program while Ashcroft was in the hospital. I wonder what other juicy bits I missed.
Couldn't watch it myself (screw Realplayer!) but apparently there was some pretty strong opinions voiced...
Cycloptichorn
How can Gonzales know that mistakes were made when he can't recall anything that actually happened?
My favorite is how he always says "I accept responsibility" as if merely saying it made it so. I want so badly for someone to ask "how exactly are you accepting responsibility if you are unwilling to pay any consequences?"
Gonzales still doesn't "get it." "I take responsibility" usually has consequences, but he wants none of it.
"Taking responsibility" is a favorite, and meaningless, phrase with this administration. Bush has stated this, but, for some reason, hasn't resigned or paid damages for the actions for which he was responsible.
Ashcroft's ex-no. 2 says Gonzales, Cheney tried to take advantage of sick Attorney General Michael Roston
Published: Tuesday May 15, 2007
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The former second-in-command at the Justice Department from 2003 through 2005 on Tuesday detailed a March 2004 incident in which top members of the Bush administration, including Alberto Gonzales and members of Vice President Dick Cheney's staff, worked to subvert a legal certification process for the National Security Agency's warrantless wiretapping program. One Republican senator compared the episode to President Richard Nixon's efforts to disrupt the Watergate investigation.
James Comey was the Deputy Attorney General first under Attorney General John Ashcroft, and briefly under Alberto Gonzales. He testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday as part of continuing oversight pertaining to the firing of US Attorneys by the Bush administration.
However, most of the hearing focused on a March 2004 incident concerning a deadline for an internal authorization at the Justice Department of the legality of the warrantless domestic spying program of the National Security Agency. The deadline for the legal certification of the domestic spying program, called the 'Terrorist Surveillance Program' by the Bush administration, was approaching, and Comey as Acting Attorney General refused to approve it.
"[The program] went forward without certification from the Department of Justice as to its legality," Comey told Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) in explaining his threat to resign over the incident in 2004.
"I can understand why you would feel compelled to resign in that context, once a decision had been made by the executive branch, presumably by the President...something was going forward that was illegal," Specter, the Ranking Judiciary Committee Republican, said in response.
Specter remarked earlier that the incident reminded him of Nixon's style of governance.
"It has some of the characteristics of the 'Saturday night massacre,'" the Pennsylvania Republican said, referring to President Nixon's purge of investigators of the Watergate break-in in 1973, which ultimately led to Nixon's near impeachment and eventual resignation from office.
"The story is a shocking one. It makes you almost gulp," Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) had said after Comey recounted his experience. "When we have a situation where the laws of this country...are not respected because somebody thinks there's a higher goal, we run askew of the very purpose of what democracy and rule of law are about."
In early March 2004, Ashcroft had been incapacitated, and was in the hospital, resulting in Comey serving as Acting Attorney General until Ashcroft was able to return to office.
Subsequently, Gonzales, serving then as White House Counsel, and Andrew Card, former White House Chief of Staff, arrived at Ashcroft's hospital bed, and asked the sick Attorney General to give his approval for the program. Ashcroft stated his strong opposition to the re-authorization. But then he added that his opinion was not important.
"But that doesn't matter, because I'm not the Attorney General, there's the Attorney General," Comey claimed Ashcroft said, with Ashcroft pointing at the Deputy Attorney General who was in the hospital room at the time. "The two men did not acknowledge me, they turned and walked from the room."
Comey was called to the White House by Card almost immediately thereafter, but said he would not meet Card without Solicitor General Theodore Olson as a witness because the Acting Attorney General was concerned with the conduct of the top White House officials.
"I was angry, I thought I had just witnessed an effort to take advantage of a very sick man who did not have the powers of the Attorney General because they had been transferred to me," he explained.
Comey further explained that a "large number" of officials within the Justice Department were threatening to resign as a consequence of the incident, including Comey.
Specter asked Comey who disagreed with his refusal to authorize the spying program other than Gonzales and Card. The former Deputy Attorney General said that Vice President Dick Cheney and his Chief of Staff, David Addington both made their opposition known to him. He said neither explicitly threatened him.
On Thursday, March 11, 2004, the same day as the Madrid train bombings by al Qaida-linked terrorists, the legality of the spying program was reauthorized by the White House without Justice Department approval, and Comey prepared a letter of resignation. However, he served through 2005.
In response to questioning from Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Comey also said the program operated for two to three weeks without Justice Department authorization.
Comey's account confirmed some details of a 2006 New York Times story. Lichtblau and Risen's 2006 account of the episode, which Comey did not confirm at the time, is available at this link. Lichtblau and Risen won the Pulizer Prize in 2006 for earlier reporting on the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program.
During questioning with Senator Schumer, Comey said he had only earlier discussed this incident in the course of an FBI investigation into a leak. He did not say if the leak dealt with Lichtblau and Risen's reporting on the warrantless wiretapping programs, or if he was the source of the leaks that brought it into the open.
Throughout the hearing, Comey also refused to confirm that the warrantless wiretapping program was the subject of the March 2004 incident in question, though the senators in the hearing referred to it on a number of occasions. Senator Specter suggested that closed hearings might be needed to further delve into the matter.
tap...tap...tap....tap....tap....still waiting for the impeachment proceedings for Bush and gang, but with the democrats, it's like asking chicken little to act on something so obvious as destroying our democratic republic.
