okie
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 12:29 pm
Advocate wrote:
The major problem here is that Bush's opposition to federal funding for stem cell research is religiously based. This violates the doctrine of separation of church and state. But what can one expect of the likes of Bush and his ilk.


It is my religious belief that stealing is wrong, but my neighbor thinks stealing is perfectly okay. Yet we have laws against it. Now what, Advocate?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 12:33 pm
okie wrote:
Advocate wrote:
The major problem here is that Bush's opposition to federal funding for stem cell research is religiously based. This violates the doctrine of separation of church and state. But what can one expect of the likes of Bush and his ilk.


It is my religious belief that stealing is wrong, but my neighbor thinks stealing is perfectly okay. Yet we have laws against it. Now what, Advocate?


There are many reasons that stealing is wrong which have nothing to do with religion. Terrible analogy

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 01:07 pm
Every law has a religious or belief basis, cyclops. It is all about the concept of right and wrong, which goes to the core of our beliefs.

I realize not many people have the guts to say so, but its a fact.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 01:10 pm
Quote:
Every law has a religious or belief basis, cyclops.


Shocked

Laughing

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 01:18 pm
I realize this is a new concept to you, cyclops, but it is the obvious staring you in the face. If you wish to examine the beliefs of various cultures, you would realize some fairly bazaar things have been the beliefs in various places. How about cannibals? How about certain native American tribes that believed stealing was perfectly okay, in fact honorable if done to another tribe, but a crime inside the tribe? How about Muslims that claim murder is honorable in certain circumstances acccording to their religious belief?

What if I decide to believe in a God that advocates murder. In fact, in some countries, Muslims are making noises that they should have their own law, that they are not subject to the laws of the country because they have a different religious basis than theirs and they violate their religious beliefs.

What you and others like you do when you have brought up this stupid argument of violation of church and state is to open up a huge can of worms and thrown yourself onto a huge slippery slope. There is no boundary as to what man will stoop to do to justify himself, because they can always claim the law that he broke is religiously based. And if we are honest, the person would have a good defense.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 02:33 pm
Bloomberg

Quote:
March 16 (Bloomberg) -- Former CIA official Valerie Plame Wilson said the Bush administration disclosed her covert status in 2003 for ``purely political motives'' and ended her work searching for weapons of mass destruction ``in an instant.''

Wilson, giving her first public testimony on the matter, said she felt ``hit in the gut'' when she knew her cover was blown. Less than two weeks ago, Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby, former top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted of lying in an investigation of whether the government leaked her name to retaliate against her husband, Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson. Her status was revealed by syndicated columnist Robert Novak.

Top White House aide Karl Rove ``clearly was involved in the leaking of my name'' and still has security clearance, Wilson testified. She said her name and reputation were ``carelessly and recklessly abused by both the White House and the State Department. My exposure arose from purely political motives.''

``We at the CIA have always known that we could be exposed by foreign agents,'' she said. ``It was a terrible irony that my name was disclosed'' by members of the Bush administration.

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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2007 02:46 pm
It was interesting that Victoria Toensing testified after Plame, saying that Plame was not covert within the meaning of the IIAA. VT claimed expertise because she helped draft the law about 25 years ago.

Plame previously said that, within the past five years, she went on a number of secret missions. The law refers to "foreign assignments."

In any event, VT's recollections would be inadmissable on the interpretation issue.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 04:07 pm
Limbaugh says he has the hots for Plame. The thought of Plame with that disgusting, fat, windbag is enough to gag anyone.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54755

I guess the prostitutes in the Dominican Republic didn't satisfy him.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 04:09 pm
Advocate wrote:
Limbaugh says he has the hots for Plame. The thought of Plame with that disgusting, fat, windbag is enough to gag anyone.

I guess the prostitutes in the Dominican Republic didn't satisfy him.


That is, if he went for the prostitutes. He was traveling with a bunch of other men...
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 05:32 pm
snood wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Limbaugh says he has the hots for Plame. The thought of Plame with that disgusting, fat, windbag is enough to gag anyone.

I guess the prostitutes in the Dominican Republic didn't satisfy him.


That is, if he went for the prostitutes. He was traveling with a bunch of other men...


WOuld there be anything wrong with that? Never been on a trip with other guys before?
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Tue 20 Mar, 2007 06:50 pm
Yeap that was the trip where Rush upon his return to the USA customs officials found him trying to smuggle into the country thousands of viagra pills.

I guess either he bought them there or brought them with him and thought he was going layed a lot more.

Obviously, your one of your pre-tumescent heroes, George.

Schwing!
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 20 Mar, 2007 08:20 pm
McGentrix wrote:
snood wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Limbaugh says he has the hots for Plame. The thought of Plame with that disgusting, fat, windbag is enough to gag anyone.

I guess the prostitutes in the Dominican Republic didn't satisfy him.


That is, if he went for the prostitutes. He was traveling with a bunch of other men...


WOuld there be anything wrong with that? Never been on a trip with other guys before?


Well, let's just say that I've never been on a trip with other guys while packing a bunch of viagra. How 'bout you?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 20 Mar, 2007 09:00 pm
snood wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Limbaugh says he has the hots for Plame. The thought of Plame with that disgusting, fat, windbag is enough to gag anyone.

I guess the prostitutes in the Dominican Republic didn't satisfy him.


That is, if he went for the prostitutes. He was traveling with a bunch of other men...


Gosh, that's not a reflexive homophobia based insult is it?
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 21 Mar, 2007 09:34 pm
Are you saying Rush is gay?

Have you ever taken a trip with a bunch of guys while packing a bunch of viagra?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2007 11:27 am
The Dominican Republic has some resorts for wealthy men (or couples) in which they can pick prostitutes to be with them 24/7. Rush said in so many words that he visited one of them.

Again, Plame would eat glass before dating the likes of Rush.
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