Studying Europe's Muslim terrorists

And God said unto Abraham: 'And as for thee, thou shalt keep My covenant, thou, and thy seed after thee throughout their generations. This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee: every male among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of a covenant betwixt Me and you. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner, that is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised; and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that should shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken My covenant

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And God said unto Abraham: 'And as for thee, thou shalt keep My covenant, thou, and thy seed after thee throughout their generations. This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee: every male among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of a covenant betwixt Me and you. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner, that is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised; and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that should shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken My covenant

Genesis 17:7­14 and repeated in Leviticus 12:3, from Jewish Library


With some logil thinking it's easily to imagine why Islam approves this practise (though it's not mentioned in the Qur'an - it's a cultural thing.
And - today more important in my opinion - if you're in the circumcision opposition camp or not.

It might be a cultural thing, but I disapprove.

The prevalence of circumcision varies widely between cultures. For example, estimates of the rate of circumcision among boys include nearly all in the Middle East[9], 2% in Scandinavia and less than 5% in Britain.[10] Recent estimates of the infant circumcision rate include 56% in the United States,[11] less than 14% in Canada,[12] and less than 15% in Australia.[13] Neonatal circumcision is thought to have become common in English-speaking countries in the mid-nineteenth century.

Circumcision is generally viewed by anthropologists as a practice through which various aspects of social identity are inscribed upon the human body, such as gender, purity, or social or sexual maturity.

While most scholars agree on these generalities, the specific timing, meanings, and rites associated with circumcision have varied greatly over time and space. In ancient Egypt, boys were generally circumcised between ages 6 and 12. Among Ethiopians, Jews, some Muslims, and some other groups, the operation is performed shortly after birth or perhaps a few years after birth. Some Arab groups traditionally perform the operation immediately before marriage. Among most other peoples who practice it ritually, circumcision is performed at puberty as a passage rite.

In many cultures, circumcision is also regarded as being of profound religious significance. In Judaism, for instance, it represents the fulfillment of the covenant between God and Abraham (Genesis 17:10"27), the first divine command of the Pentateuch"that every male child shall be circumcised.

Of course I dont object to anyone who is circumcised, I just think the practice is unnecessary and occasionally harmful.

This morning I heard Sony Corporation have withdrawn a video game, apologised and recalled product in case an innocuous few words and background music caused offence to Muslims. Previously Sony Corporation used scenes from inside Manchester Cathedral for a particularly bloody "shoot em up" game, causing grave offence to Christians and the Church of England. They went ahead anyway and no doubt made a lots of money.

well if Christian community or whichever other of the offended ones got organized and pressed the issue, I am sure BBC would follow along and had a policy against Christian jokes... but they are not so organized anymore, since our cultures are increasingly secular, especially in europe.

My Muslim friends do not do such things. Seriously, this is pushing the limits, Steve. You are mixings Islam and terrorism and complaining that you're seen as a bigot or a racist. What can I say... do you realize how offensive you can sound?

And this religion is the only one which trains and encourages followers to blow themselves up.....in the interests of promoting their religion.