hamburger wrote:ican wrote :
Quote:exterminating al-Qaeda in Afghanistan is primary
how is that to be accomplished when al-qaeda fighters move freely between afghanistan and pakistan ?
the pakistani president seems not to be committed to expell the al-qaeda fighters - they are really occupying a "no-man's-land" not under the control of the pakistani authorities .
hbg
Quote:'Pak tribal areas safe haven for al Qaeda'
Washington, June 9 (PTI): Pakistan's tribal areas bordering Afghanistan have become a "safe haven" for al Qaeda and Taliban militants, and Washington should prod Islamabad to be more aggressive and vigorous in dealing with the lawless areas, a top US security official has said.
Lt.Gen. Douglas Lute, who has been nominated as the Assistant to the President for Iraq and Afghanistan, said "Pakistan is going through a turbulent time here. And the tribal area along their western border have become, unfortunately, a safe haven for al Qaeda."
"You said they're searching for one in Iraq. Well, they've got one now in western Pakistan... (President Pervez) Musharraf's got an election coming up. So he's got to deal with that. But, look, we've got a right to expect them to be more aggressive and vigorous in dealing with those lawless tribal areas," the Deputy National Security Advisor told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
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it seems that both taliban and al-qaeda fighters are moving around at their own speed and will ... good luck trying to oust them .
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Exterminating al-Qaeda wherever it established and establishes itself is the primary problem.
Al-Qaeda's primary defense tactic is to embed its members with non-murderers (i.e., in the midst of non-murdering children, women, and men) whom it threatens to murder if they aid in any manner those who would exterminate them. This tactic has enabled al-Qaeda to proliferate, because they know that those who would exterminate them (e.g., the USA) will not do that if it can reasonably be predicted that non-murderers will be exterminated along with al-Qaeda members. Consequently al-Qaeda members kill thousands a month and instigate the murder of at least that same number by causing civil war among those related to those al-Qaeda murders.
So how shall al-Qaeda be exterminated?
1. The USA must announce to the entire population of the middle east that beginning a date certain the USA's special forces will exterminate al-Qaeda wherever they find them including those non-murderers with whom they are embedded.
2. The USA must also announce to the entire population of the middle east that for as long as is desired, it will provide safe harbor to non-murders who seek and obtain the protection of the USA, and who provide the USA special forces information about the locatuion of al-Qaeda members.
3. No country in the middle east shall be excluded.
Based on
prior experience the non-murderers will choose to cooperate with the USA special forces out of fear of their risk of being killed if they do not cooperate with the USA.
This is admittedly a ruthless plan.
So what shall it be:
A.
Ruthless plan that results in the eventual extermination of al-Qaeda, but kills say 10 non-murderers for every exterminated al-Qaeda member?
B.
Continuation surge plan that results in the steady growth of al-Qaeda membership and results in the killing of say 100 non-murderers for every exterminated al-Qaeda member?
C.
Denial of probable consequences plan that calls for the USA to leave the middle east as quickly as it can after at least two-thirds the USA Congress passes a resolution commanding the USA to leave the middle east, regardless of the number of non-murderers--middle eastern and western--that are subsequently murdered by al-Qaeda?