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THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, ELEVENTH THREAD

 
 
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 02:58 pm
xingu wrote:
http://buckfush.com/images/George_Bush_War_Record.jpg

Amen


Lets see...March 20,2003 till march 17,2007 equals 3 days short of 4 years

September 1,1939 to Sept 2,1945 equals 6 years and 1 day.

Your are correct,we have been in Iraq longer.

Geez,didnt you learn simple math in school?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 03:21 pm
mysteryman wrote :

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Lets see...March 20,2003 till march 17,2007 equals 3 days short of 4 years

September 1,1939 to Sept 2,1945 equals 6 years and 1 day.

Your are correct,we have been in Iraq longer.

Geez,didnt you learn simple math in school?


perhaps someone can solve a mystery for me . when was it that the united states of america entered WW II ?
hbg
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 03:21 pm
mysteryman, poor soul. Stretching and stretching and of course stretching. Dec. 7 1941 was a day that will live in infamy.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 03:24 pm
blueflame1 wrote:
mysteryman, poor soul. Stretching and stretching and of course stretching. Dec. 7 1941 was a day that will live in infamy.


So,WW2 started on Dec 7,1941?

I'm sure the family members of the allied troops that were killed in combat in Europe and the pacific before that date will be glad to know they werent fighting a war.
I'm sure it will make them feel better.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 03:51 pm
mysteryman, the vets Bushie was referring to in the cartoon are American vets and the reference is to America's involvement im WW2. But of course you gotta stretch the truth in defense of Bushie. Not bright. Never clever. But consistent.
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 05:49 pm
mysteryman wrote:
revel wrote:
Roadside Bomb Kills 4 U.S. Troops in Baghdad

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BAGHDAD, March 15 -- Four American soldiers were killed and two others were wounded Thursday when a roadside bomb exploded near their vehicles in eastern Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

The soldiers were returning from search operations when one roadside bomb detonated, then another. The second bomb caused the casualties, the military said.


4 U.S. Soldiers Killed In Roadside Bombing

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CBS/AP) A roadside bomb exploded Thursday in eastern Baghdad, killing four U.S. soldiers and wounding two others, the U.S. military said.

The attack began when one bomb went off as a U.S. unit was returning from a search operation in the mostly Shiite area, the military said. Moments later, a second bomb exploded, killing and wounding the soldiers.

A demolition team that searched the site after the attack found an explosively formed projectile, a type of high-tech bomb which the U.S. military believes comes from Iran. The device was detonated by the team.

Earlier Thursday, the military said a U.S. soldier was killed the day before in combat in Anbar province, west of Baghdad.


Are you trying to say that these are two seperate attacks?
These are two reports of the same incident,and even you should have seen that.


Your right I should have seen it, thanks for pointing it out. I'll make an effort to be more vigilant in my future postings.

Terrible thing about the chlorine bomb today though.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2007 09:19 pm
WORLD WAR II STARTED IN 1931 WHEN THE JAPANESE INVADED CHINA.

The USA was merely a tardy participant in WWII.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 05:31 am
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So,WW2 started on Dec 7,1941?

I'm sure the family members of the allied troops that were killed in combat in Europe and the pacific before that date will be glad to know they werent fighting a war.
I'm sure it will make them feel better.


It did for Americans, prior to that date there had been only changes in training levels for the US Military. Until the Pearl Harbor attacks, the US was a neutral party, we declared war on Japan on Dec 8th, Germany declared war on the US four days later.

Joe(then we were in it)Nation
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 05:35 am
It appears some conservatives lack of historical knowledge matches their ignorance of current events.

I guess with people who are dictated by ideology the two go hand in hand.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 07:36 am
4 Years After Start of War, Anger Reigns

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Thousands of demonstrators protesting the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq marched on the Pentagon yesterday, jeered along the way by large numbers of angry counter-protesters.

Organizers billed the antiwar rally as marking the 40th anniversary of the 1967 march on the Pentagon. At times, verbal clashes during the cold and blustery day demonstrated that the bitter divisions of four decades ago sparked by Vietnam are very much alive in the debate over Iraq.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 09:04 am
So,now only when America entered the war did it become a war?

Sorry,but since British,Australian,Dutch,and other nationalities forces died in war looong before the US got into WW2 (BTW,British,Australian,and other troops are dying in Iraq now),then for you to not include them now is wrong and xenophobic on your part.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 09:17 am
mysteryman wrote:
So,now only when America entered the war did it become a war?


Certainly not: the war started when Germany attacked Poland on September 1, 1939, with Britain and France declaring war on Germany on September 3.

For the USA, the war started .... see above or look it up in your history book.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 09:28 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
So,now only when America entered the war did it become a war?


Certainly not: the war started when Germany attacked Poland on September 1, 1939, with Britain and France declaring war on Germany on September 3.

For the USA, the war started .... see above or look it up in your history book.


I know exactly when the war started,and I said that in an earlier post.
My point is that there are some people on here saying the war didnt start till Dec 7,1941.

Now,since British troops were involved in the war long before then,to say that the war in Iraq has lasted longer then WW2 is wrong,since the Brits are in Iraq with us now,unless you are either downplaying or ignoring their involvement in WW2.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 09:35 am
Obviously, MM, you don't understand ...
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 09:52 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Obviously, MM, you don't understand ...


Your right,I dont understand.

I dont understand how anyone can downplay or ignore the help we are recieving from our staunchest ally,and the length of their involvement,just to try and make a weak point.

By comparing how long the war in Iraq has lasted to how long WW2 lasted,while ignoring how long our allies fought in WW2,even thought those same allies are with us in Iraq,is false and degrading to those same allies.

Now,I know that you and others will disagree,but since WW2 started on Sept 1,1939 the war in Iraq has NOT lasted as long as WW2.

Sorry,but there is no way anyone can say it has.
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 10:57 am
mysteryman wrote:
Your right,I dont understand.

That's very evident. The cartoon had to do with AMERICAN troops, not other nationalities. So we start with 12/7/41, not 1939 or 1931.

I might add that with the current Commander-in-Chief the war may last longer than the 9/1/39 WWII or the Vietnam War.

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In remarks at the ceremony, Gates said the U.S. is ready to defend its interests in the Middle East for decades to come, even though the Iraq war has been tougher than expected.

http://www.saukvalley.com/articles/2007/03/17/news/national/302292254430804.txt

At $2 billion dollars a week, sure we can do this for decades. To get more money we'll just cut taxes.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/09/28/cost_of_iraq_war_nearly_2b_a_week/

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Graphic/2006/09/28/1159435878_7481.gif
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 11:05 am
"That's very evident. The cartoon had to do with AMERICAN troops, not other nationalities. So we start with 12/7/41, not 1939 or 1931." Naturally but it aint evident to Snidely.
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 11:27 am
I am trying to understand current US strategy in Iraq right now. Why are we concentrating so much on Shiite militants instead of Sunni insurgents? Shiite militants seem mainly to just fight Sunnis, while Sunni militants fight US soldiers and other Iraqis, so why are concentrating so much on Shiite militants?

Sunni Militants Disrupt Plan to Calm Baghdad

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I mean look what happened today, by Sunni insurgents.

7 more American troops killed in Iraq
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 01:05 pm
the difficulties the americans face in iraq trying to distinguish between friend and foe , are quite well presented in this report .

the problems seem to go even further because today's friend may be tomorrow's enemy (the book :...PRINCE OF THE MARSHES... gives a good illustration of how quickly alliances shift in iraq) .

so while today the americans may be attacked by sunnis in a certain area of iraq , tomorrow they may be attacked by shiites in some other area .
some iraquis also seem to slip in and out of uniform at times - it's quite clear : this is not a convential war .
hbg



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link to full report :
...IRAQI - U.S. FORCES POLICE POSTS...
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 18 Mar, 2007 01:56 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
Quote:
So,WW2 started on Dec 7,1941?

I'm sure the family members of the allied troops that were killed in combat in Europe and the pacific before that date will be glad to know they werent fighting a war.
I'm sure it will make them feel better.


It did for Americans, prior to that date there had been only changes in training levels for the US Military. Until the Pearl Harbor attacks, the US was a neutral party, we declared war on Japan on Dec 8th, Germany declared war on the US four days later.

Joe(then we were in it)Nation

Americans voluntarily fought in China prior to 12/7/41 to help the Chinese against the Japanese. One group was called the Flying Tigers. The noses of their P40 fighter planes were painted to look like the mouths of tigers. Others flew DC-3 cargo planes across the Himalayan mountains to help supply the Chinese with food and ordnance.
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