THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, ELEVENTH THREAD

hamburger wrote:

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imo in the end it comes down to one thing : MONEY (spelled : M O N E Y),
how much more money will the united states/canada have to sink into iraq/afghanistan ?
will there have to be higher taxes ?
where is the additional money going to come from : higher taxes - higher debt - cutback in other services to its citizens - inheritance from the rich uncle (not likely) .
hbg

The additional money will come from lowering tax rates and/or reducing welfare.

A gross operating surplus, if one occurs, is that extra revenue not originally predicted in the state's budget. A gross operating deficit, if one occurs, is the amount actual revenues falls short of the revenue predicted in the state's budget.

ican711nm wrote:

hamburger wrote:

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imo in the end it comes down to one thing : MONEY (spelled : M O N E Y),
how much more money will the united states/canada have to sink into iraq/afghanistan ?
will there have to be higher taxes ?
where is the additional money going to come from : higher taxes - higher debt - cutback in other services to its citizens - inheritance from the rich uncle (not likely) .
hbg

The additional money will come from lowering tax rates and/or reducing welfare.

So, you propose we pay for several more years of war... by lowering taxes?

You do realize that the whole Voodoo Economics thing is a lie, a lie intended to make the rich, richer, at the expense of the nation?

Cycloptichorn

ican711nm wrote:

A gross operating surplus, if one occurs, is that extra revenue not originally predicted in the state's budget. A gross operating deficit, if one occurs, is the amount actual revenues falls short of the revenue predicted in the state's budget.

An intersting definition of what constitutes a "surplus." No mention of expenditures?

actaul data shows that the wealthy pay less % taxes than the poor or middle and the major reason this does not get changed is that the majority see the potential of themselves possibly becoming members of the wealthy and wanting to avoid the burden of taxation. Happy dreams.

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 999-07
August 13, 2007
DoD Identifies Army Casualties

The Department of Defense announced today the death of three soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Aug. 12 in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle.

Killed were:

Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, 31, of Madill, Okla. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., 27, of Herndon, Va. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, 31, of Farmers Branch, Texas. He was assigned to the 345th Psychological Operations Company, 2nd Psychological Operations Group, U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (Airborne), Fort Bragg, N.C.

For more information on Kettle and Clowers, the media may contact the U.S. Army Special Operations Command public affairs office at (910) 432-6005.

For more information on Kitowski, the media may contact the U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command public affairs office at (910) 432-2035; after hours (910) 432-7714 (ask for the public affairs officer).

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IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 999-07
August 13, 2007
DoD Identifies Army Casualties

The Department of Defense announced today the death of three soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Aug. 12 in Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle.

Killed were:

Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey D. Kettle, 31, of Madill, Okla. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Staff Sgt. Jesse G. Clowers Jr., 27, of Herndon, Va. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Sgt. Charles B. Kitowski III, 31, of Farmers Branch, Texas. He was assigned to the 345th Psychological Operations Company, 2nd Psychological Operations Group, U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (Airborne), Fort Bragg, N.C.

For more information on Kettle and Clowers, the media may contact the U.S. Army Special Operations Command public affairs office at (910) 432-6005.

For more information on Kitowski, the media may contact the U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command public affairs office at (910) 432-2035; after hours (910) 432-7714 (ask for the public affairs officer).

3690 and counting

DOD news release

ehBeth, I've been wondering what the casualty rate in Afghanistan was, so thanks for the link.

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The lack of power is a contributing factor for the insurgency. It is also the very first thing the insurgents will attack, as it represents an extremely difficult to defend target of opportunity.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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The lack of power is a contributing factor for the insurgency. It is also the very first thing the insurgents will attack, as it represents an extremely difficult to defend target of opportunity.

Cycloptichorn

Let me get this right.

You think the lack of adequate power in Baghdad contributes to the insurgency in Baghdad.

You think the insurgency's first target in Baghdad is to make the power system in Baghdad even more inadequate.

You think the insurgents in Baghdad are crazy.

So, Do you actually know what the casualty rate in Afghanistan is C.I.?

Please share it with us!

ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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The lack of power is a contributing factor for the insurgency. It is also the very first thing the insurgents will attack, as it represents an extremely difficult to defend target of opportunity.

Cycloptichorn

Let me get this right.

You think the lack of adequate power in Baghdad contributes to the insurgency in Baghdad.

You think the insurgency's first target in Baghdad is to make the power system in Baghdad even more inadequate.

You think the insurgents in Baghdad are crazy.

Crazy?

Lack of power contributes to insurgency.

Insurgents attack power grid to create lack of power.

Insurgents get recruits as a result.

Which part is crazy? They get exactly what they want - more troops for the fight.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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The lack of power is a contributing factor for the insurgency. It is also the very first thing the insurgents will attack, as it represents an extremely difficult to defend target of opportunity.

Cycloptichorn

Let me get this right.

You think the lack of adequate power in Baghdad contributes to the insurgency in Baghdad.

You think the insurgency's first target in Baghdad is to make the power system in Baghdad even more inadequate.

You think the insurgents in Baghdad are crazy.

Crazy?

Lack of power contributes to insurgency.

Insurgents attack power grid to create lack of power.

Insurgents get recruits as a result.

Which part is crazy? They get exactly what they want - more troops for the fight.

Cycloptichorn

I think the so-called insurgents (i.e., opposition to the Iraq government) want more electric power, and not more troops for a fight that gets them less electric power.

On the otherhand, I think al-Qaeda wants less electric power to attract more recruits for a fight that gets them more power to remain in Iraq.