edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 06:29 pm
I could not recall the reason moringa leaves can begin to yellow. Turns out they need magnesium.
Reyn
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 08:08 pm
@edgarblythe,
Like some kind of plant food?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 08:51 pm
@Reyn,
Not certain what to use as yet.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 09:12 pm
@edgarblythe,
"Fertilizer: Use fish emulsion or Dr. Earth fertilizer products. Do not use chemical fertilizers like Miracle Grow."

http://voices.yahoo.com/tips-growing-miracle-tree-moringa-southern-6716252.html

"Temperature Extremes: Where ever you live, if there are temperature extremes, they will not grow as well. The trees show this displeasure by leaves that turn yellow. This can also happen when their roots get cramped. The temperature during the day has been in the 90's finally but the night time temperature has dipped to 56 degrees many nights. They have some yellow leaves to show their unhappiness.

Ideal Temperature: Moringa trees grow rapidly when it reaches 80 degrees or hotter. They will lose their leaves when temperatures dip under 70 degrees. When temperatures stay under 70 degrees, they go dormant. The trees will die with hard freezes. In the winter they are not pretty. They lose all their leaves and look like a half-dead stick. I had two trees that I was sure were dead but are fine now. If the root is hard they are alive. If the root is soft, they have perished. It is remarkable how dead they can look, yet burst out in Spring when the temperatures get warm enough."


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Moringa Leaves Turning Yellow:

"One reader ask me what he was doing wrong...yellow leaves that fell off the trees. There could be several factors:

Too much water....don't water log the roots.... don't let them sit in water.
Not enough water....they need to be kept moist but not wet.
Too Small a container.......they grow fast, have a long deep root.....so don't root them in with too small a container.

Not enough sun and warmth

Soil that does not have organic animal fertilizer ....poor soil or overused soil. It could be soil lacking iron as well. Yellow leaves can mean an iron deficiency in the soil.

Too dry....no humidity.

I hope by going over these factors above, you will figure out which problem is causing your Moringa tree to develop yellow leaves."


http://gardening.about.com/od/gardenproblems/a/NutrientDeficie.htm

"Not all plant problems are caused by insects or diseases. Sometimes an unhealthy plant is suffering from a nutrient deficiency or even too much of any one nutrient. Plant nutrient deficiencies often manifest as foliage discoloration or distortion. The following chart outlines some possible problems. Unfortunately many problems have similar symptoms and sometimes it is a combination of problems.

Be sure you eliminate the obvious before you kill your plants with kindness.

•Check first for signs of insects or disease.

•Foliage discoloration and stunted plants can easily be caused by soil that is too wet and drains poorly or soil that is too compacted for good root growth.


•Extreme cold or heat will slow plant growth and effect flowering and fruit set.

•Too much fertilizer can result in salt injury. Your plants may look scorched or they may wilt, even when the soil is wet.
For a definitive diagnoses, contact your local cooperative extension service.
Plants require a mix of nutrients to remain healthy. Nutrients that are needed in relatively large amounts are called the macronutrients. Plant macronutrients include: nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus, calcium, sulfur and magnesium.

There are a handful of additional nutrients that are required for plant growth, but in much smaller quantities. These micronutrients include: boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum and zinc.

All of these nutrients are taken in through the roots. Water transfers the nutrients from the soil to the plant roots. So one requirement of sufficient plant nutrition is water. A second requirement is the appropriate soil pH for the plant being grown. Each plant prefers a specific pH range to be able to access the nutrients in the soil. Some plants are fussier than others, but if the soil pH is too acidic or alkaline, the plant will not be able to take in nutrients no matter how rich your soil may be."
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 09:31 pm
There are differing opinions on the yellow leaves, apparently. I know it is not excess water. On the site I am about to link, it is said to be lack of magnesium.
http://www.moringamatters.com/how-to-grow-a-dwarf-Moringa-tree.html
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2012 05:21 am
1236a. Left out at midnight plus to repair a hot water tank. Did not know the nature of the problem until I got there, for the man had reported a smell of burn with his A/C. The designer of the buildings stupidly stuck the A/C evaporators over the hot water tanks, meaning, if the drain pans leak water drips on the water tank wiring. The thermostat sure enough got shorted. Makes for a short night.
1237a. I like Bill Clinton's speech from last night. Polls show him to be more popular than the candidates.
1238a. Cowboys did a number on Giants last night. Terrible beginning for the new season.
1239a. More and more I notice web sites about health, where not just meat is cut from diets, but also nuts, seeds, fruits. I can see cutting fruits if sugar must be cut, but I fail to see the point, re seeds and nuts. Guess I need to research more when I get home. I believe eating meat is okay, but I know many out there disagree. End argument: Eat what you and your body believe to be best for you. Each person is responsible for their own health, in the end.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2012 07:39 am
@edgarblythe,
No problem. I'm sure you'll find the right solution. I was just poking around digging up info. I found in the past, when I grew my veggie gardens, that there's always differeing opinions when it comes to treatment for problems or 'problem children'.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2012 04:55 am
1240a. Employee/boss relationships can be strange. My present boss has been at the apartments for perhaps 8 years (who keeps track?) For the past few years (who keeps track?) we have kept A/C condensers in a storage and I have been bringing them to the job as needed. Some are charged with freon and some are full of nitrogen. Always I have done the job without criticism. Suddenly, she questions whether or not I am smart enough to know which have nitrogen and which not. So far it does no good to explain that the cartons they come in have green lettering when nitrogen is used and it is plainly stated. I told her the last one we put in had freon. Nobody is complaining about how the A/C functions in that apartment, but she keeps saying we will damage it by running nitrogen. She took the serial number and called the supplier. A woman told her it was a nitrogen unit. She is wrong. Now the troubleshooter from the company is going to look at our A/Cs and tell us what's what. In the meantime, the A/C in question is functioning perfectly. Times like this I wish I had the dough to retire.
Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2012 12:35 pm
@edgarblythe,
Oh dear! It's always something, isn't it?

How's your wife feeling? Any better?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2012 12:43 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think all of us have experienced bad bosses during our work life, but don't let them upset you, because they're not worth the aggravation nor the worry.

Just make sure your back is covered if she instructs you to do something wrong.

CYA is an invaluable tool.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 08:39 am
@cicerone imposter,
Overall, my boss is the best of bosses. Lately she has had a bee in her bonnet, but she will eventually get beyond that and all will be fine again.
edit
I could have taken out the charge and put in new freon, but R22 is an endangered species and very expensive.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 08:57 am
1241a. I just received a beautiful card from Sam's wife. It would be great if she lived a few hundred miles nearer.
1242a. I helped my lead man install another air conditioner yesterday. This time we saved the box as proof we got it right, re the presence of freon inside the compressor.
1243a. The weather cool down has begun. Nights in upper 60s, rather than 80s, days in low instead of upper 90s.
1244a. Mrs edgarblythe received her first paycheck yesterday. We in da tall cotton now. (As an ex cottonpicker, I can vouch firsthand how it feels by day's end, to have been picking higher rather than lower, when filling bags with the white stuff, since daybreak.)
1245a. Local expectations are high for the Texans football team. I hate that so many are predicting Superbowl before they have played a game. I will consider it a victory if they make the playoffs. Superbowl would be a great bonus, but don't get your mouth watering for chicken when it hasn't been hatched out of the egg as yet.
Reyn
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 02:50 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
1244a. Mrs edgarblythe received her first paycheck yesterday. We in da tall cotton now.

That's great, Edgar! I hope it continues to work out fine.

Is she feeling better now?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 04:42 pm
@Reyn,
She seems okay, but for laryngitis, which she is almost over.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 09:47 am
1246a. Pleasant weather - first in three months. Thank ya Jeebus.
1247a. Playing Angry Birds has become so habitual, it keeps me from more important tasks. I hope to scale back my playing time this week.
1248a. Lazy day. I plan to bar-bee-cue some ribs later and to watch the Texans play.
Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 08:55 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
1247a. Playing Angry Birds has become so habitual, it keeps me from more important tasks. I hope to scale back my playing time this week.

Yeah, I hear ya! Wink

I was playing Gardens of Time quite regularly, but now I don't really play at all. Only fill my neighbours' requests.

On FB, I've started doing something that I consider fun and useful, and that is to use the Places Editor. I've been doing a lot of local stuff.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 04:50 am
1249a. It's too early to be up. It's too soon to be Monday morning. What next? Work? Work. Got to jump like a young boy for my pay. Nobody knows the troubles I seen ---
1250a. Feetsball - mixed bag yesterday.
1251a. I am eager for the presidential debates. I want to see if Romney can be pinned down over his incessant flip-flops.
1252. The literature warns against getting moringa leaves wet before you are ready to wash and eat them. I realized the wisdom of that advice, when I washed some for dinner last night. In water, they cling to your hands and you have to peel them away. So many small leaves can quickly aggravate with their stubbornness against getting off the skin and on the plate.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 08:04 am
@edgarblythe,
The Species of Moringa: Life Forms

The 13 species of Moringa fit into three broad categories that reflect life form and geography. The links below are arranged under these categories. To find out more about a species, click on its name to go to its page. For links to species pages arranged geographically, jump down to the maps.

Bottle trees

Massive trees with bloated water- storing trunks and small radially symmetrical flowers.

M. drouhardii; Madagascar
M. hildebrandtii; Madagascar
M. ovalifolia; Namibia and extreme SW Angola
M. stenopetala; Kenya and Ethiopia

Slender trees

Trees with a tuberous juvenile stage and cream to pink slightly bilaterally symmetrical flowers

M. concanensis; mostly India
M. oleifera; India
M. peregrina; Red Sea, Arabia, Horn of Africa

Trees, shrubs, and herbs of NE Africa

The eight Moringaspecies found in northeast Africa span the whole range of life form variation found in Moringa. All but M. peregrina are endemic to northeast Africa, that is, found nowhere else on earth. These species are tuberous adults or tuberous juveniles maturing to fleshy-rooted adults; colorful, bilaterally symmetrical flowers

M. arborea; NE Kenya
M. borziana; Kenya and Somalia
M. longituba; Kenya, Ethiopia, Somalia
M. pygmaea; N Somalia
M. rivae; Kenya and Ethiopia
M. ruspoliana; Kenya, Ethiopia, Somalia
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 07:00 pm
Thanks, BBB
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2012 05:15 am
1253a. Zut alors. Only Tuesday. Last week made me tired and I have a lingering weariness making me wish for time off. I should walk rather slowly this day and ease the stress a bit. But I make such a resolution, here in the stillness of morning. The bustle of day makes me energized. I forget. Tomorrow, I shall make the same complaint. I promise to keep it to myself.
1254a. 911. Tim McVeigh. Always in my thought, even when I am not aware of it.
1255a. I urge the health conscious among us to check the benefits of coconut oil - the virgin expeller pressed kind.
 

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