Dem wants to make the minutemen "terrorists"

We won't get the border closed with incomplete arguments, or ones where immigration could as easily be the cause as illegal immigration. Talk about stopping terrorists and gang members from entering; talk about drug smuggling and slavery; talk about sovereignty of America's soil and our right to defend it. The talk that can be misconstrued as some sort of anti-immigrant feeling or racism isn't going to help us.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

We won't get the border closed with incomplete arguments, or ones where immigration could as easily be the cause as illegal immigration. Talk about stopping terrorists and gang members from entering; talk about drug smuggling and slavery; talk about sovereignty of America's soil and our right to defend it. The talk that can be misconstrued as some sort of anti-immigrant feeling or racism isn't going to help us.

Whereas the talk you advocate for describes America's immigrants fairly and accurately, and cannot be misconstrued as xenophobia. Yeah right.

You can't simultaneously have a War on Terror and open borders.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You can't simultaneously have a War on Terror and open borders.

Good. I think the War on Terror is a sham anyway. So, no harm done by leaving the borders open.

Personally I would simply erase all border restrictions regarding immigration in north america (just to start) and let economic forces settle the dust.

HB 2286 reads:

Sec. 2. Title 13, chapter 23, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 13-2320, to read:

13-2320. Domestic terrorism; classification

A. An individual or group of individuals commits domestic terrorism if the individual or group of individuals are not affiliated with a local, state or federal law enforcement entity and associate with another individual or group of individuals as an organization, group, corporation or company for the purpose of patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity or to individually patrol for the purpose of detecting alleged illegal activity and if the individual or group of individuals is armed with a firearm or other weapon.

dyslexia wrote:

Personally I would simply erase all border restrictions regarding immigration in north america (just to start) and let economic forces settle the dust.

that is exactly what is happening now..

If I'm right, we're talking about some one State House member proposing a bill thats going nowhere. Whence the national interest, the Fox News story? This thread here?

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

Personally I would simply erase all border restrictions regarding immigration in north america (just to start) and let economic forces settle the dust.

that is exactly what is happening now..

Are economic forces supposed to generate so much hot air?

parados wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

Personally I would simply erase all border restrictions regarding immigration in north america (just to start) and let economic forces settle the dust.

that is exactly what is happening now..

Are economic forces supposed to generate so much hot air?

all the hot air is not about controlled immigration, is about racism and brown skinned people.

har! sean hannity called. he wants his shtick back.

what's easy to predict is that "you guys" cannot seem to enter any discussion without foaming at the mouth about librulls.

btw, if you go back and check the "illegal immigration" threads over the last year or so, you will discover that i am absolutely against it. and i put my money where my mouth is. i fired the best secretary i've ever had when i learned she was in the u.s. illegally. she was a great kid and i hated to do it, but it is what it is...

bottom line is, if you are pissed about illegal aliens, you need to hold the employers responsible and put their asses to the fire.

no illegal jobs = no reason for illegal aliens to cross the border.

can ya dig it, baby ?

I thought this was the great melting pot.

can ya dig it, baby ?


No.

Baldimo wrote:

I thought this was the great melting pot.

This is more than enough evidence that you are seriously delusional..

Several small encampments throughout Rancho Peñasquitos were targeted in a string of attacks, said attorney Claudia Smith of the California Rural Legal Assistance Foundation.
"It was truly stunning to see and pick your way through maybe 100 items, and every one of them is slashed. Jackets right down the middle," said Smith, who notified police after reports of the attacks began to pour in Saturday. "This was so vicious and so deliberate."

This morning there was another disturbing article in our local newspaper
of how migrant workers are targeted by the "we-take-justice-in-our-own-hands" racists. Let's remember, these are the poorest of the poor who
are targeted here. I am spitting mad about such incidents, and they're not isolated by any means - unfortunately.

Quote:

Several small encampments throughout Rancho Peñasquitos were targeted in a string of attacks, said attorney Claudia Smith of the California Rural Legal Assistance Foundation.
"It was truly stunning to see and pick your way through maybe 100 items, and every one of them is slashed. Jackets right down the middle," said Smith, who notified police after reports of the attacks began to pour in Saturday. "This was so vicious and so deliberate."

entire article