IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

o.e. wrote :

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So, if high quality health care of all sorts is available to every single American citizen, how exactly do the 8.3 million children that are currently uninsured in the United States receive health care?

(Curious minds want to know.)

so you think you might receive a straight-forward answer ?

i think i have the answer - from the free dictionary :

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until hell freezes over (informal)
if you say that someone can do something until hell freezes over, you mean they will not get the result they want. They can talk until hell freezes over - they won't make me change my mind.

hbg :wink:

You are mixing health care with health insurance again.

See, you keep thinking universal health insurance = universal health care, despite your own definition.

People not using the available health care around them and near them can not be held as an example of America not having universal health care.

One has to actually go to a health care facility.

Once there, they can receive some of the best universal health care on the planet.

But, they have to pay for it.

That's where your definition fails.

Many of the children who are uninsured have parents who didn't know that they were eligible for "free care". Perhaps they didn't have a social worker, or an RN visiting nurse..or perhaps the kids' school didn't have a school nurse.

until hell freezes over (informal)
if you say that someone can do something until hell freezes over, you mean they will not get the result they want. They can talk until hell freezes over - they won't make me change my mind.

Then using this definition, show me one person in the US right now that doesnt have access to high quality health care.

8.3 million children remain uninsured in the United States.

o.e. :
don't say i didn't tell you :

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until hell freezes over (informal)
if you say that someone can do something until hell freezes over, you mean they will not get the result they want. They can talk until hell freezes over - they won't make me change my mind.

hbg :wink:

I didn't say they should get access to health care. I said they should get health care.

mysteryman wrote:

Then using this definition, show me one person in the US right now that doesnt have access to high quality health care.

You misread.

I didn't say they should get access to health care. I said they should get health care.

According to the US Department of Health and Human Services

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8.3 million children remain uninsured in the United States.

How exactly do the 8.3 million children that are currently uninsured in the United States receive health care?

Please explain.

Healthy Start
Insurance for eligible pregnant women and referrals to health care and other services; provides one pediatric exam for newborn baby; all immigrants eligible

Define "currently uninsured".
Are you saying that they dont have health insurance of their own,or that they have no insurance at all.

Children may receive health coverage through a number of sources, including private insurance, either employer-based or purchased directly, and public programs, such as Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Eligibility for public programs is based on a family's income compared to the Federal poverty level. Every State has SCHIP programs that help expand coverage to children who would otherwise be uninsured. Despite the progress achieved through public programs, approximately 8.3 million children remain uninsured in the United States.

If a parent has health insurance,then the child is covered under that same plan.
That child does not have health insurance,but the parent does.

Of course,if the parent chooses not to have health insurance,then the child wont either.

Many states have their own childrens health care plan,that anyone that qualifies financially can get.
It is based on income,nothing more.

Children may receive health coverage through a number of sources, including private insurance, either employer-based or purchased directly, and public programs, such as Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Eligibility for public programs is based on a family's income compared to the Federal poverty level. Every State has SCHIP programs that help expand coverage to children who would otherwise be uninsured. Despite the progress achieved through public programs, approximately 8.3 million children remain uninsured in the United States.

In Ca,they used to have,and might still have medical,which covered children and others that didnt have insurance.

Children may receive health coverage through a number of sources, including private insurance, either employer-based or purchased directly, and public programs, such as Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Eligibility for public programs is based on a family's income compared to the Federal poverty level. Every State has SCHIP programs that help expand coverage to children who would otherwise be uninsured. Despite the progress achieved through public programs, approximately 8.3 million children remain uninsured in the United States.

Children of active duty military or children of those killed while in the service dont have their own insurance,but they are aligible for free healthcare at every veterans hospital or base hospital/

Groups like the Shriners provide free excellent healthcare to any child that asks,and they dont charge.

mysteryman wrote:

Groups like the Shriners provide free excellent healthcare to any child that asks,and they dont charge.

Do they provide health care to all 8.3 million children without insurance?

Shriners Hospitals for Children is a network of 22 pediatric hospitals in the U.S., Canada and Mexico providing specialized care for orthopaedic conditions, burns, spinal cord injuries and cleft lip and and palate. All services are provided at no charge.

Eligibility for care is not based on financial need or relationship to a Shriner.

Perhaps we should stop bickering with our German friends. I'm sure they have a good system that, as a mimimum, appears to satiffy those here who comment first hand on it.