IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

@cicerone imposter,

With the race in Massachusetts so close, and polls showing Brown to be ahead by double-digits, seems ObamaCare will see its demise.

I believe that's a good thing; a bad health reform bill must be trumped.

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@cicerone imposter,

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With the race in Massachusetts so close, and polls showing Brown to be ahead by double-digits, seems ObamaCare will see its demise.

check the news...the plan is to ram the bill though before Brown gets seated. The dems will pay the tab for this move in Nov, by way of increased loses. This bill is a disaster for the dems from start to finish. Serves them right.

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@hawkeye10,

Bunch of scumbags anywhos.

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@woiyo,

woiyo wrote:

Predictions

Scott Brown will win a close election in Mass.

Dems will scream FRAUD and stall the final certification.

Do not count your chickens before they hatch. Do not underestimate the fraudulant ACORN and some late election night ballot counting in some key areas, woiyo.

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This very interesting. I think that the latter path might prevail.

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If Brown wins, one option is for Democrats to rush to vote on a bill before he is sworn in, which Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) has called the "hurry-up-and-stall strategy." Both Podesta and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) have raised the possibility of using the reconciliation process in the Senate to avoid the need for amassing 60 votes to block a filibuster, which would put "health care's fortunes in the hands of the Senate parliamentarian, who could strike out key sections of bill because they aren't germane to the budget." According to the New York Times, however, White House and Democratic congressional leaders "have begun laying the groundwork to ask House Democrats to approve the Senate version of the bill and send it directly to President Obama for his signature." But that could be a difficult vote to put together in the House as "House Democrats have voiced a number of complaints with the Senate measure."

--americanprogressaction.org

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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With the race in Massachusetts so close, and polls showing Brown to be ahead by double-digits, seems ObamaCare will see its demise.

check the news...the plan is to ram the bill though before Brown gets seated. The dems will pay the tab for this move in Nov, by way of increased loses. This bill is a disaster for the dems from start to finish. Serves them right.

You're completely wrong, but what's new there?

The Dems don't actually have to rush anything - if the House votes to pass the Senate version, they could do it anytime they liked.

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

okie wrote:

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Do not count your chickens before they hatch.

This is the same guy who has already determined that Obama is a communist hell bent on turning our country into socialism. His chickens have been hatched long before anybody else even saw the eggs.

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If anyone ever doubted the Democrats were a win at any cost party, cheat if you have to, do whatever, stay tuned. I hope more and more people keep waking up to this most corrupt party in modern American History. The party of coverups, corruption, and win at any cost, ram it through who cares bunch of people, its all about them, not us.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/19/senate-democrat-outlines-nuclear-option-strategy-health-care/

"Top Senate Democrat Outlines 'Nuclear Option' Strategy for Health Care
By Trish Turner
- FOXNews.com

A top Senate Democrat for the first time Tuesday acknowledged that the party is prepared to deal with health care reform by using a controversial legislative tactic known as the "nuclear option."

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@okie,

Did anyone notice that in the otherwise well-written article about passage of the healthcare bill, the headline quoted words "Nuclear Option" were never attributed to anyone. So, it's known as ....by whom?

Joe(mebbe to be fair and balanced was once again too much.)Nation

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@Joe Nation,

Dick Durbin?

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I just saw that Barney Frank and Jim Webb said they would oppose getting health reform through before Brown is sworn into the senate. Thus, it appears that health care reform is dead, which will speed this country's downhill slide.

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@Advocate,

Downhill slide? We've already been on one since December of 2007. That's what most Americans are concerned about; not about "health care reform" that doesn't really reform.

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LOL. Political hysteria has built its own tower of Babel.

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@Joe Nation,

Joe Nation wrote:

Did anyone notice that in the otherwise well-written article about passage of the healthcare bill, the headline quoted words "Nuclear Option" were never attributed to anyone. So, it's known as ....by whom?

Joe(mebbe to be fair and balanced was once again too much.)Nation

maporsche wrote:

Dick Durbin?

Joe, you are like most of the Fox News haters here, you have a pre-disposed template, that when it doesn't fit what your template is, you accuse, but just maybe you need to take a closer look at your own templates and why you believe alot of the stuff you believe.

To be fair, I do not favor their use of the phrase, "Fair and Balanced," but to be fair to them, it is an advertising phrase, and everyone knows that every news organization claims to be fair and balanced whether they use the advertising phrase or not. I would rather their news speak for itself, and I believe that although Fox News is far from perfect, they are infinitely better than their competition, and that is why they are doing well. After all, most people are not stupid and they see the bias. It has become so common as to be totally transparent.

I have pretty much given up on reading newspapers with AP news items. I read one a couple of days ago about Obama and his response to Haiti, and it was nothing more than an editorial in support of how wonderful Obama has responded to Haiti, while claiming it was a news column. It was so blatantly bad that I threw the paper down in disgust. Such so-called AP news is not uncommon, it is nothing more than liberal editorial crap. Face it, so-called news organizations, the main stream news, are one big reason why we have one of the most inexperienced and incompetent presidents in history, and Marxist leaning one at that, that is turning out to be totally and absolutely incompetent on top of being an ultra socialist, not a centrist as he was trumped up to be. Just maybe more people should have watched and believed Fox News, as they had the guy pegged.

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I guess with the victory of Brown in MA health-care reform is dead. How sad! Soon it will be more than 55,000 dying each year for lack of coverage. Also, even a larger majority of bankruptcies will be because of medical bills. Even more people will be afraid to start businesses because they would be giving up an employer's health coverage and taking on great expense in covering themselves and employees. We spend more than double what other countries pay for health care, and this will become even more lopsided. Soon about 25 % of our economy will be related to health care, a certain disaster. The Republicans should be proud.

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@Advocate,

Advocate, It's not sad that the health care reform is now dead. What was promised by Obama during his campaign on health care reform didn't resemble what they put together, and it deserved to die. Most Americans wanted to see health care reform, but what they ended up creating were special deals for Nebraskans, and taxing cadillac plans that cover most middle-class workers, and penalizing those who don't buy into their "plan."

They also promised a public health insurance program that they "sacrificed" because they all sold their souls to the insurance industry.

I was happy to see it drown on its own holes in the health care boat.

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@cicerone imposter,

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They also promised a public health insurance program that they "sacrificed" because they all sold their souls to the insurance industry.

Howard Dean, as you know, both a physician and a Democrat, pretty much said the same thing last night on MSNBC.

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@cicerone imposter,

Your objections to the reform are relative nits when compared to the needed changes that would be made to the overall health-care industry. These tradeoffs happen with respect to almost all legislation. Now, we will be left with nothing but a failed health-care system. Your points are mindless.

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@Advocate,

It's only mindless to people who can't accept the fact that what congress finally agreed upon was not what was promised. That's the reason the majority of Americans who initially wanted health care reform was against the most recent plan approved by congress. Reconciliation wasn't going to fix what was already broken into a thousand pieces.

That congress go so far as to make special deals with people like Nelson shows it was too broken to fix.

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@cicerone imposter,

The health care truck already crashed, and it was totally destroyed. Obama now wants to get back where he started at square one; it isn't going to work; it's too late.

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Obama now seeks pared-down health care bill
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer Ricardo Alonso-zaldivar, Associated Press Writer 5 mins ago

WASHINGTON " Chastened by the Democratic Senate loss in Massachusetts, President Barack Obama and congressional allies signaled Wednesday they will try to scale back his sweeping health care overhaul in an effort to at least keep parts of it alive.

A simpler, less ambitious bill emerged as an alternative only hours after the loss of the party's crucial 60th Senate seat forced the Democrats to slow their all-out drive to pass Obama's signature legislation and reconsider all options.

No decisions have been made, lawmakers said, but they laid out a new approach that could still include these provisions: limiting the ability of insurance companies to deny coverage to people with medical problems, allowing young adults to stay on their parents' policies, helping small businesses and low-income people pay premiums and changing Medicare to encourage payment for quality care instead of sheer volume of services.

Obama urged lawmakers not to try to jam a bill through, but scale the proposal down to what he called "those elements of the package that people agree on."

"We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people," the president said in an interview with ABC News. "We know that we have to have some form of cost containment because if we don't then our budgets are going to blow up. And we know that small businesses are going to need help."

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