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IT'S TIME FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 12:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I have to disagree inasmuch I see that type of thought process in many conservatives. It is the standard conservative pathology. Moreover, those poor souls who have it should, for theirs and our protection, be institutionalized at a minimum.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:05 pm
Private health insurance commits to real reform: NOT!


HEALTH CARE -- INDUSTRY EXECUTIVES UNDERMINE INSURANCE LOBBYIST'S PLEDGE FOR REFORM: In an interview with Bloomberg Radio yesterday, Karen Ignagni, president and CEO of America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), rebuked congressional criticism of the health care industry. "[People] don't want to be rejected because of preexisting conditions, and they want to make sure they have continuity of care," she said. "We've committed to that. That's what our industry is doing. We are one of the first to step up and offer real change that affected our industry." Despite Ignagni's assurances, the industry continues to be on the offensive. Talking Points Memo has obtained a leaked e-mail from Express Scripts, a St. Louis-based pharmacy benefit manager, that both condemns the "rush to pass legislation that could fundamentally alter our current system" and calls on its employees to "take action" against health care reform by contacting their elected officials. In 2004, Express Scripts was found guilty of defrauding the state of New York of $100 million and eventually settled by paying a multi-million dollar fine. Additionally, during congressional testimony last June, executives from UnitedHealth Group, Assurant, and Wellpoint unequivocally refused to commit to ending the practice of rescinding coverage after an applicant files a medical claim. A House subcommittee found in an investigation that those three health insurance companies have rescinded policies for nearly 20,000 policyholders and avoided paying over $300 million in medical claims over the past five years. The subcommittee also found a number of underhanded tactics the companies used to rescind coverage to policyholders, including rescissions based on a failure to disclose a medical condition their doctors never told them about and rescissions of coverage for all members of a family based on a failure to disclose a medical condition of only one family member.

--americanprogressaction.org
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:26 pm
@Advocate,
The health care insurance companies are spending $1.2 million every day to misinform Americans on Obama's health plan. Obama's biggest problem has been his policy of not communicating his plan throughout his first seven months in office. He's always fighting fires rather than providing the kind of information that's necessary to educate the populace about universal health care and its advantages and necessity to control cost. He's failed big time, and I'm not sure he's going to win the information battle now. Too many now believe wrongly that government is going to take over health care in our country, and that the cost is going to be increasing without any savings.
okie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:30 pm
Libs cried at the top of their voice when Bush protected America by collecting information to track down terrorists, but they are not the least bit concerned that Obama is collecting information to protect his own political agenda. Obama cares more about his own selfish power and interests than he does our interests and safety. This is clearly an abuse of power. Obama has a dictator mindset, don't you dare disagree with me, or you are called a mobster. Kind of like Chavez accusing his opponents of being anarchists. IMPEACH OBAMA.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/06/critics-accuse-white-house-playing-big-brother-health-care-debate/

"Critics Accuse White House of Playing 'Big Brother' in Health Care Debate

A new White House tactic to control the message on health care reform has critics accusing the Obama administration of playing "Big Brother" and threatening the privacy of average Americans.

"No one expects that when they exercise their First Amendment rights to ask questions or complain about a proposed government program that they're going to be listed on a database in the White House," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, told FOX News Thursday, saying the White House effort raises serious privacy concerns. "You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the potential for serious abuse."

...."
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:32 pm
@okie,
Why don't you explain to us exactly what the problem is? In clear terms, your own words. See, I don't think you really understand what you are talking about here.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:34 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I just did explain it. Are you dense?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:35 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

I just did explain it. Are you dense?


No, you didn't. You cut-and-pasted an article from Fox News. I want you to explain to me exactly what the problem is and why it is a problem.

I don't think you can, because you seem much more interested in just repeating whatever the breathless accusation is from Republican mouthpieces, than putting any actual analysis into your posts.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:35 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
okie never knows what he's talking about; Americans are increasingly against the Obama health plan based on the misinformation they've been buying from the ads at the tune of $1.2 million every day by the health insurance industry. Not only that, but the health insurance industry has many of the congress members in their pockets.

Fear-mongering still works.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:37 pm
@okie,
Could you explain why you think you explained it? Because I don't see anything there that would be considered an explanation.

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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:39 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

members of the radical right who believe it's okay to murder a man because they don't like his politics. or to blow up a clinic. or a federal building.

That's who.



could be done, except that like most little terrorist fux, they do their big manly terrorizin' ****... anonymously.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:42 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

... Bush protected America ....


you must be joking. forget all about september 11th already?
okie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:43 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Osama Bin Laden was offered on a silver platter to Clinton, did you forget?
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:47 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Osama Bin Laden was offered on a silver platter to Clinton, did you forget?


according to the lattile weasel mansour ijaz or whatever his name is. no other proof ever offered.

and the only ones who ever took it serious were people that have their lips permanently glued to sean hannity's ass.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 01:49 pm
and by the way, it was your hero, george walker bush who was president on september 11th, 2001.

not bill clinton..
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:13 pm
@okie,
The twin towers were offered on a silver platter to bin Laden.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What an exceedingly silly thing to say.
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The twin towers were offered on a silver platter to bin Laden.


"the party of NO" is only half of it.

"the party of NO RESPONSIBILITY" is what a once fine political party has become.

it's sad, really.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:19 pm
@spendius,
No sillier than okie's
Quote:
Osama Bin Laden was offered on a silver platter to Clinton, did you forget?


One must overlook 9-11 to even make such a stupid statement.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:19 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

What an exceedingly silly thing to say.


yeah? so how are things goin' over there in Londonistan ?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 02:24 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Osama Bin Laden was offered on a silver platter to Clinton, did you forget?


You forgot to explain what the problem was, when you wrote this post.

Cycloptichorn
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