"Forget Immigration Laws"

Blueflame,

As anyone who has spent any time in this forum... I am very involved (and informed) about the Immigrants rights movement. What you are saying is complete nonsense. We get support from many Americans including African Americans and Unions. We are not against any segment of society, in fact we help many immigrants of many races.

The Neo-Nazi's are unequivocally against Immmigration from Latinos. Ironically they are saying the same things about Latino immigrants that you are saying-- in almost the exact same terms. Look any of the white supremicist sites (google "Aryan nation" if you need a starting point) and you will see that the rhetoric in your racist article would fit in quite well there.

When my family took part in the Immigrant rights marches last Spring, there were neo-nazi's there yelling at us.

I was puzzled by your use of the word "La Raca" as an example of a Neo-Nazi liberation theology. La Raca doesn't mean anything in Spanish (although I seem to remember this may be an Aramic term from the Bible used in the Sermon on the Mount). I googled this term and couldn't find any web pages about this (you may be able to provide a source).

I suspect you were talking about the National Council of La Raza which is a Latino civil rights group that is well respected by most of America and hated by the far right (and the Neo-Nazi's).

La Raza represents Hispanic citizens on legal and political issues and was recently invited to testify before Congress about the Comprehensive Immigration bill.

You can see their web page in the link below. I donate to them at times and they are a worthy organization for anyone who wants to support civil rights for Latinos in America.

La Raza Website

ebrown, I'm also a strong supporter of immigrant rights. Human and civil rights too. I've marched, sacrificed and gone to jail fighting for the rights of indigenous people shortchanged and persecuted by globalists, imperialists, World Bankers. I can also understand how successful the opressors have been in dividing and conquering those they oppress and turning them against each other and getting them to kill and get killed by each other. It's an old tactic. But I do see what is happening in the specific neighborhoods of LA as being ethnic cleansing and it is driven by globalists from the fascist wing. I think much hate is generated within the system that has a huge prison population with over a million Americans incarcerated for non-violent drug offenses. And in prison gangs and hate flourish and victims of oppression are further divided and conquered. One of the more depressing situations in society imo is gangs of victims turning on one another rather than banning together and working for change. The war on drugs is one way these people are victimized. In the 80s after Poppy Bush became Director of CIA crack was introduced in South Central L.A. and the CIA even admitted some complicity in bringing crack into the country during Iran/Contra. So many young Americans are jailed for non-violent drug offenses even as most every bank in America launders drug money as Senator Levin has investigated and proven. Once jailed these young prisoners are thrust into gang situations, are put on probation and a revolving door opens for them. If they're felons they have a hard time finding a job. Opportunities close for them and many become involved in selling small amounts of drugs to survive which often leads to violations of probation and more hopelessness and helplessness. I see it every day in my work and neighborhood. We need big change and instead of being divided against each other gang members should find common ground in their victimhood and work together to bring down the powers that be behind this scam. Around the world indigenous people are banding together to bring change against oppressive policies that have kept them down forever. Elections throughout this hemisphere show much success in turning back imperialist policies and corporate fascism. But history shows the reaction of the oppressor is to arm and train and pay victims to kill other victims. Death squads in many countries are examples of that. I think the article I posted is trying to show that globalists are driving much of the gang violence in LA. Your mention of Jewish Conspiracy says a lot.

Your rhetoric really distresses me (and perhaps this warrants a separate thread). You say some things, and take some positions that are progressive, and pro-justice.

But then you combine it with totally looney theories laced with rhetoric that relies on racial stereotypes and hysterical lies.

I agree with some of the things you say... but I am forced to strongly disagree with the malicious, paranoid currents that run underneath the surface of your politics.

For example, the idea of race war is a position that is constantly enflamed by the far right. Street gangs are street gangs and are expected to kill each other for any reason. Racial attacks by street gangs are nothing new.

But then to say this is being controlled by a White-run conspiracy to kill white people-- it is pure lunacy.

What really is amusing is the fact that you post contradictory things. The article you posted describes the Paranoid fantasy of a far rightwind nutjob complete with brown-skinned conquest leading to Communism (scary Communism).



But then your last post is the angry ranting of a far left wing socialist, with the imperialists keeping down the people.



You are unique in combining the lunacy of both rightwing and leftwing extremists.

It would be nice if you would at least pick a side...

ebrown, I take my stand against World Bank globalism. And I'm well aware of their tactics of divide and conquer. Gangs who kill each other are victims killing victims. And I'm aware that some victims are paid by the victimizers to kill other victims. I'm well aware of gang warfare. We had a gang murder up the street the other day and one of the stabbing victims rented a room from me in the rooming house I manage. I didn't take sides but told both sides they are playing the game the oppressor wants them to play. As for the article I posted I do believe there is an ethnic cleansing against blacks in the neighborhood mentioned and I do believe it's driven by Bushie globalist billionaire types. Death squads are their thing whether in the USA, South or Central America, the ME or Africa etc. I would love to see these gang members unite and work for freedom from a system geared to keep them down and killing each other.

ebrown,
Here is some information you might not have about Aztlan,their world view and their goals...

http://www.umich.edu/~mechaum/Aztlan.html

From that link...
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"Northern land of Aztlan" means the US.

Then there is this...

http://www.aztlan.net/homeland.htm



And here
http://www.aztlan.net/la_county_mexican_demographics.htm

You will see an interesting set of maps about how the population of L.A. county has changed from 1940-2000

And to find out how racist Aztlan is,lets look at one of their "articles" they have written...
http://www.aztlan.net/omen2003.htm




Now,while I dont agree that Aztlans goal is to form a communist dictatorship,



Their own writings say that their goal is a takeover of the southwest US.

Now Bush is the evil behind gangland violence? BF, you sure like peddling BS.
BFBS- we don't make a lot of the bogus stories you buy; we make a lot of the bogus stories you buy, better.

OCCOM BILL, God damn the Pusher Man.

Rove on immigration: 'I don't want my son to have to pick tomatoes' RAW STORY
Published: Friday February 9, 2007

The Corner at the National Review Online reports that at a Republican luncheon yesterday White House adviser Karl Rove was overheard explaining the Bush amnesty immigration plan by saying, "I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."

Excepts from "The Corner" article below:

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There should be no need to explain why this is an obscene statement coming from a leader in the party that promotes the virtues of hard work, thrift, and sobriety, a party whose demi-god actually split fence rails as a young man, a party where "respectable Republican cloth coat" once actually meant something. But it does seem to be necessary to explain.

Rove's comment illustrates how the Bush-McCain-Giuliani-Hagel-Martinez-Brownback-Huckabee approach to immigration strikes at the very heart of self-government. It is precisely Rove's son (and my own, and those of the rest of us in the educated elite) who should work picking tomatoes or making beds, or washing restaurant dishes, or mowing lawns, especially when they're young, to help them develop some of the personal and civic virtues needed for self-government. It's not that I want my kids to make careers of picking tomatoes; Mexican farmworkers don't want that either. But we must inculcate in our children, especially those likely to go on to high-paying occupations, that there is no such thing as work that is beneath them.