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"Forget Immigration Laws"

 
 
mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2007 11:27 am
ebrown_p wrote:
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Range estimates of illegals in CA being in jail is about half of the prison population


This is a lie.

The number of people in CA jails who are "non-citizens" is 10.1% according to the Department of Justice. Obviously the number of "illegals" is less than the number of non-citizens. This was flushed out in the other immigration thread.

Link to debunking on other thread.

If they are here illegally and then commit another crime,they deserve no pity or mercy.
They have shown that they have no regard for or respect for our laws.

I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2007 11:39 am
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 18 Jan, 2007 12:56 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.


We could just dress them up as gay tourists from San Francisco and ship them to Nogales, Mexico.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 05:50 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
I know English isn't your first language, Walter, so I'll give you a little pointer: Interesting is not synonymous with Idiotic. :wink:
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:12 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
I know English isn't your first language, Walter, so I'll give you a little pointer: Interesting is not synonymous with Idiotic. :wink:


How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?
It is the epitome of fairness.
If we treat them that way,then we are being fair to the illegals that come here.

And since you seem to want everything to be "fair" and equal,how is it not fair to apply another countries laws to their citizens that are here illegally?
WE would be treating them the same way their own govt treats them.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:20 am
mysteryman wrote:
How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?


Seems, you are asking this seriously.

"Defining Crimes and Setting Punishment". Look that up, e.g. at answer.com online.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:25 am
mysteryman wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
I know English isn't your first language, Walter, so I'll give you a little pointer: Interesting is not synonymous with Idiotic. :wink:


How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?
It is the epitome of fairness.
If we treat them that way,then we are being fair to the illegals that come here.

And since you seem to want everything to be "fair" and equal,how is it not fair to apply another countries laws to their citizens that are here illegally?
WE would be treating them the same way their own govt treats them.


You have an interesting idea here. I think we should take a page from Carlos Mencia. He says the illegals should be sent back but not to their own countries, we should send them to different countries. Someone from Mexico should be sent to Panama or some other south american country. That way it takes them a lot longer to get back here and maybe just maybe they will find a better home on their way north.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:27 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?


Seems, you are asking this seriously.

"Defining Crimes and Setting Punishment". Look that up, e.g. at answer.com online.


I understand what the law says,but I believe the law is wrong.

Thats why I would love to be king for a day here in the US.
I would love for my word to be law.THat way I could eliminate the illegal drug problem in 30 days,and most crime in 6 months.
Our govt dould do it now,but to many on the left would scream bloody murder and wet their pants over how it was done.

Many times I wonder if the left truly wants to reduce the crime rate,or if they need crime for some reason.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:31 am
mysteryman wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?


Seems, you are asking this seriously.

"Defining Crimes and Setting Punishment". Look that up, e.g. at answer.com online.


I understand what the law says,but I believe the law is wrong.

Thats why I would love to be king for a day here in the US.
I would love for my word to be law.THat way I could eliminate the illegal drug problem in 30 days,and most crime in 6 months.
Our govt dould do it now,but to many on the left would scream bloody murder and wet their pants over how it was done.

Many times I wonder if the left truly wants to reduce the crime rate,or if they need crime for some reason.


It gives them a voting block to work with. The mean old police arrest innocent people all the time so they appeal to the "innocent" because we know jail is full of innocent people.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:46 am
mysteryman wrote:

I understand what the law says,...


Obviously not.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:57 am
mysteryman wrote:
I understand what the law says,but I believe the law is wrong.

Thats why I would love to be king for a day here in the US.
I would love for my word to be law.THat way I could eliminate the illegal drug problem in 30 days,and most crime in 6 months.
Our govt dould do it now,but to many on the left would scream bloody murder and wet their pants over how it was done.

Many times I wonder if the left truly wants to reduce the crime rate,or if they need crime for some reason.

I thought "the end justifies the means" had been debunked as a moral concept.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 07:58 am
DrewDad wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I understand what the law says,but I believe the law is wrong.

Thats why I would love to be king for a day here in the US.
I would love for my word to be law.THat way I could eliminate the illegal drug problem in 30 days,and most crime in 6 months.
Our govt dould do it now,but to many on the left would scream bloody murder and wet their pants over how it was done.

Many times I wonder if the left truly wants to reduce the crime rate,or if they need crime for some reason.

I thought "the end justifies the means" had been debunked as a moral concept.


Don't think it has been debunked. I think it has been frowned down upon but debunked is a little strong.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 08:07 am
mysteryman wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
I know English isn't your first language, Walter, so I'll give you a little pointer: Interesting is not synonymous with Idiotic. :wink:


How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?
It is the epitome of fairness.
If we treat them that way,then we are being fair to the illegals that come here.

And since you seem to want everything to be "fair" and equal,how is it not fair to apply another countries laws to their citizens that are here illegally?
WE would be treating them the same way their own govt treats them.
Rolling Eyes You haven't traveled much, have you? In many of the lovely countries to our South, an illegal need only hand over a very reasonable sum and go about his merry way. Is that what you had in mind? :wink:
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 01:56 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
I still say the best way to treat illegal immigrants is the same way their home country treats illegals.

If Mexicobeats and starves illegal immigrants to their country,and I dont know that they do that,thats the way we treat those illegals from Mexico.
Nothing could be more fair then that.


An interesting legal concept.
I know English isn't your first language, Walter, so I'll give you a little pointer: Interesting is not synonymous with Idiotic. :wink:


How is it idiotic to treat illegals the same way their home country treats illegals?
It is the epitome of fairness.
If we treat them that way,then we are being fair to the illegals that come here.

And since you seem to want everything to be "fair" and equal,how is it not fair to apply another countries laws to their citizens that are here illegally?
WE would be treating them the same way their own govt treats them.
Rolling Eyes You haven't traveled much, have you? In many of the lovely countries to our South, an illegal need only hand over a very reasonable sum and go about his merry way. Is that what you had in mind? :wink:


I have traveled quite a bit.
I know that a little cash can make a border guard look the other way.

But,read the official policy that those countries have towards dealing with illegals.
THAT is how we treat illegals from those countries.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 19 Jan, 2007 05:15 pm
Mexico es muy bien.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 09:44 am
Racist Mexican Gangs "Ethnic Cleansing" Blacks In L.A.
Latino thugs indiscriminately murder blacks regardless of gang membership, genocidal purge aligns with radical Aztlan theology

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, January 22, 2007

Racist Mexican gangs are indiscriminately targeting blacks who aren't even involved in gang culture, as part of an orchestrated ethnic cleansing program that is forcing black people to flee Los Angeles. The culprit of the carnage is the radical Neo-Nazi liberation theology known as La Raca, which calls for the extermination of all races in America besides Latinos, and is being bankrolled by some of the biggest Globalists in the U.S.

A story carried on the liberal website Alternet, charts an explosion in brutal murders of blacks by Hispanic street gangs in L.A. Far from being gang on gang violence, the Latinos are targeting innocent blacks in accordance with a concerted ethnic cleansing campaign that seeks to eradicate all blacks from Hispanic neighborhoods.

In one instance, 21-year-old Anthony Prudhomme was shot in the face with a .25-caliber semi-automatic while lying on a futon inside his apartment, slain by a Latino gang known as the Avenues as part of a racist terror campaign in which gang members earn "stripes" for each black person they kill.

In one typical case," writes journalist Brentin Mock, "Three members of the Pomona 12 attacked an African-American teenager, Kareem Williams, in his front yard in 2002. When his uncle, Roy Williams, ran to help his nephew, gang member Richard Diaz told him, "Niggers have no business living in Pomona because this is 12th Street territory." According to witnesses, Diaz then told the other gang members, "Pull out the gun! Shoot the niggers! Shoot the niggers!"

The fatwah against blacks began in the mid-nineties, with a 1995 LAPD report concluding that Latinos had vowed to "Eradicate black citizens from the gang neighborhood." In a follow up report on the situation in east Los Angeles, the LAPD warned that "Local gangs will attack any black person that comes into the city."

The author notes that since 1990 the African-American population of Los Angeles has halved, partly as a result of rampant illegal immigration and that there are noticeably fewer blacks walking the streets because many have been forced to relocate in fear of the racist gangs.

"The LAPD estimates there are now 22,000 Latino gang members in the city of Los Angeles alone. That's not only more than all the Crips and the Bloods; it's more than all black, Asian, and white gang members combined. Almost all of those Latino gang members in L.A. -- let alone those in other California cities -- are loyal to the Mexican Mafia. Most have been thoroughly indoctrinated with the Mexican Mafia's violent racism during stints in prison, where most gangs are racially based," writes Mock.

Mock blames the "Mexican Mafia" for ordering the campaign of ethnic cleansing from prison, as part of a turf war with the Black Guerilla family, another prison gang, but fails to pinpoint the racist creed from which the Mexican kingpins draw their inspiration - the long standing Aztlan invasion agenda.

Aztlan's goal, known as La reconquista, is to cede and take over the entirety of the southern and western states by any means necessary and impose a Communist militant dictatorship. President Bush's blanket amnesty program goes a long way to helping the extremists achieve their aim.

Despite the fact that the majority of documented hispanics oppose illegal immigration, as do the majority of Americans, Aztlan and La Raca race hate groups have become the self-appointed voice for a separatist movement that threatens a violent overthrow of the Constitutional system and a barbaric program of ethnic cleansing. This is held up by the media as 'diversity' and to vociferously oppose it is scorned as racism.

Aztlan and Mecha groups advocate killing all whites and blacks and driving them out of the southern states by means of brutal ethnic cleansing. Flags and placards carried at marches depict white people having their heads cut off, as seen in the picture below.

Those that protest such groups are then attacked by the establishment media and labeled as racists, despite the fact that the Plan of San Diego, a rallying cry for the hispanic Klan groups, advocates total eradication of any race but hispanics.

Mecha's own slogan reads, "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

TV stations owned by rich white industrialists erect giant billboards in Los Angeles claiming the city belongs to Mexico, as seen below.

Mainstream hispanics who love America abhor the virulent racism that the Mexican klan groups embrace.

And who bankrolls these pocket radicals? Billionaire tax-exempt foundations and NGO's owned by white men. Organizations like the Ford Foundation, groups who are zealous in their quest to eliminate the middle class and destroy America, turning it into a cashless society, compact city, surveillance control grid where only two tiers of society exist - the elite and the poor slaves.

During the May immigration protests, The Aztlanwebsite carried the following statement.

"If the racist "Sensenbrenner Legislation" passes the US Senate, there is no doubt that a massive civil disobedience movement will emerge. Eventually labor union power can merge with the immigrant civil rights and "Immigrant Sanctuary" movements to enable us to either form a new political party or to do heavy duty reforming of the existing Democratic Party. The next and final steps would follow and that is to elect our own governors of all the states within Aztlan."

Here is the open call for violent separatism and the overthrow of existing state government structures.

During the immigration demonstrations, which were orchestrated by Rob Allyn of Rob Allyn & Co. who is closely tied with George W. Bush, alarming reports of illegals carrying out violent beatings began to surface. In Santa Ana California, illegal aliens swarmed around in mobs invading schools, carrying out violent beatings and in one incident a county worker had a Mexican flag plunged into his chest.

The violent protests that began on May 1 last year were characterized by throngs marching under Mexican flags, many of which were illegal aliens, as a "day without gringos."

Imagine what the reaction would be if white middle class Americans marched in their millions and called the event "a day without blacks."

The media continues to run defense for a violent militant movement that seeks nothing less than the eradication of blacks and whites through ethnic cleansing and the takeover of the southern and western states. This is a separatist junta that has over 30,000 ruthless gang members at its disposal once the call for mobilization is heard, along with millions of illegal aliens pouring across the border.

These thugs have the temerity to call Latinos, blacks and whites who are opposed to uncontrolled illegal immigration racists when it is their own La reconquista philosophy that has spawned target hits in Los Angeles as part of a virulently racist ethnic cleansing rampage. It's a bloodlust that can only spread to other cities as the realization of Aztlan is generously aided by billionaire Globalists who wish to see America balkanized, plundered and destroyed. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/220107mexicangangs.htm
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 10:29 am
Leftist Wacko racists are just as funny as Conservative wacko racists.

The Latino Fatwah??? LOL
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 10:45 am
ebrown, if you're referring to the article on Mexican Gangs the author is making the point that they are backed by globalist billionaires, some with ties to Bushie. Leftists they are not. "It's a bloodlust that can only spread to other cities as the realization of Aztlan is generously aided by billionaire Globalists who wish to see America balkanized, plundered and destroyed."
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 03:05 pm
The implication that Hispanic civil rights groups control Latino gangs as part of the Jewish conspiracy for world domination is just to ludicrous to even even respond to.

Do you really believe that street gang violence is "ethnic cleansing"?
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 03:25 pm
Jewish conspiracy? "Do you really believe that street gang violence is "ethnic cleansing"?" Yes I believe the gangs mentioned in the article above are involved openly and by doctrine in ethnic cleansing. "The culprit of the carnage is the radical Neo-Nazi liberation theology known as La Raca, which calls for the extermination of all races in America besides Latinos,". "The fatwah against blacks began in the mid-nineties, with a 1995 LAPD report concluding that Latinos had vowed to "Eradicate black citizens from the gang neighborhood." In a follow up report on the situation in east Los Angeles, the LAPD warned that "Local gangs will attack any black person that comes into the city." Apparently the LAPD agrees.
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