"Forget Immigration Laws"

I agree that rape is a horrible act, but at it's very root, that's what rape is combined with being an act of dominance and power. I could have included many adjective describing how horrible it is.

McGentrix wrote:

I agree that rape is a horrible act, but at it's very root, that's what rape is combined with being an act of dominance and power. I could have included many adjective describing how horrible it is.

a) that's exactly the masochistic viewpoint,

b) you didn't include a single adjective.

Your apology is worse than your original submission, being as you've had time to consider and reconsider. And, no, it was MM who first suggested illegal immigration was analogous to "theft, rape and murder". Ebrown was simply demonstrating what an idiotic comparison it was... and did a fine job of it at that.

McGentrix wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Rape is illegal sex.

That is one of the most masochistic phrase I've read the last couple of months.

In the context of ebrown_p's poor anaology, it will have to do.

Rape is a damn sight worse than illegal sex... and it was MM's idiotic analogy.

Comparing illegal immigration to a violent crime has to be one of the most assinine things I've read lately.

Walter made the point better, and more subtly, but subtle doesn't seem to get through.

DrewDad wrote:

Comparing illegal immigration to a violent crime has to be one of the most assinine things I've read lately.

Walter made the point better, and more subtly, but subtle doesn't seem to get through.

A crime is a crime.

Baldimo wrote:

DrewDad wrote:

Comparing illegal immigration to a violent crime has to be one of the most assinine things I've read lately.

Walter made the point better, and more subtly, but subtle doesn't seem to get through.

A crime is a crime.

Then let's have the same penalty for all crimes, eh?

Death to jaywalkers!

I asked Ebrown if one crime is acceptable,what other crimes does ebrown consider acceptable.

I didn't say that there were different levels of crime, I just said that a crime is a crime.

I didn't say that there were different levels of crime...

mysteryman wrote:

I asked Ebrown if one crime is acceptable,what other crimes does ebrown consider acceptable.

I'm not Ebrown, but let me answer his questions anyway. I find all statutory crimes acceptable unless they violate anyones natural rights. Apart from immigration without a permit, these include gambling, prostitution, and the production, sale, and consumption of drugs. On the other hand, theft, murder, and rape -- the crimes you brought up -- violate their victims' natural rights to life, liberty, and property. Hence I find them unacceptable.

There is a big difference between illegal rape and illegal immigration.

Would you say this?

Quote:

Rape is a good thing.

ILLEGAL rape however,is a bad thing.
Note the word ILLEGAL.

Comparing illegal rape and illegal immigration is not a good argument. (I am making the assumption that you would think rape is bad even if it weren't illegal.)

I will agree,if you want prostitution to be legal,then do it the way Nevada does it,with legal cathouses and biweekly medical exams for the women working in them.

Gambling...
Those addicted to gambling have been known to lie,cheat and steal to get money to gamble,thinking that their big payout is with the next turn of the card or next spin on the slot machine.
"Loansharks" prey on those with a gambling problem,often times using violence to demand repayment of loans that can never be paid off.

Prostitution...
Prostitutes are often the victim of violent crimes,usually committed by a "john" that wasnt happy.
They are victimized by pimps that use threats and intimidation to keep them in line,sometimes killing one as an example to others.
Some prostitutes carry STD's,including AIDS.

Production, sale, and consumption of drugs...
You cant be serious on this one!!
People are getting killed by addicts all the time,addicts are getting killed by drugs that contain poisonous materials or that arent cut properly.
Gangs like the Crips and the Bloods are constantly killing each other over turf wars,about who will control the drug trade in the neighborhood.

I will agree,if you want prostitution to be legal,then do it the way Nevada does it,with legal cathouses and biweekly medical exams for the women working in them.

I smoke I'll be honest. I have a dog in the legalization fight. Pot is the only drug that should be legalized. It doesn't create the same types of issues that other drugs do. It doesn't cause you to be physically addicted but it does have a mental component. I have never had a negative effect from pot to include wanting to rob someone so that I could get more. Other drugs have this effect but not pot. This past election here in CO we had to vote for legalization and I voted yes. It didn't pass but that is going to be a not yet. I don't support the legalization of the dangerous drugs like meth, coke, herion, crack and pcp. Those have a negative effect on society and destroy families.

Thomas has this pegged. It is foolhardy to compare immigration violations to crimes against people, let alone violent crimes. Immigration violations are a crime against no one. Every argument to the contrary fails the Cause and Effect test. Great examples, Thomas. I concur 100%