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So this woman sits next to me on the Red Line...

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Sat 30 Dec, 2006 10:37 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I sorta missed the "[positive]" in the first part of your response. Or are you suggesting "being rude to an individual on the subway" as the positive?

Hehheh, good catch. True, you had to derive the accompanying positive (re political ethics - not peddling the most hateful political stuff, opposing torture in all its euphemisms) from context and stuff. So it wasnt as straightforward the way I said it was. Will do better next time.

Ticomaya wrote:
But, just for the old year ... I would also prefer a patriotic, polite person, over a nice-smelling, terrorist-apologist euroweenie. ("Patriotic" being the negative -- it is a negative, right? -- and "nice-smelling" being the positive.)

Hmmm, patriotic as negative... doesnt really work for me, I kinda think of patriotism - good, nationalism - bad. But it might work for some I guess. But it doesnt work for you, in any case, and thats what counts here.

Plus, of course, you need to work on the parallel opposites to get a proper retort here. I mean, in my version, you had the rude <-> polite opposition, and the opposition between hateful politics peddler / torture apologist <-> scrupulous political ethics. You line em up like that, pick a positive from the one and wed it to the negative from the other, and vice versa. I mean, focus here.

So, whatta we got here. You got your terrorist-apologist euroweenie (negative); polite (positive); nice-smelling (positive) and patriotic (positive - well, far as you and I are concerned anyway). Three positives, that doesnt work. Well, patriotic is the positive equivalent to terrorist-apologist euroweenie, obviously. So then you got, say, nice-smelling, and you need a negative to match that - smelling like a fresh turd, for example.

OK, try this on for size. You prefer a guy who smells like a fresh turd but is patriotic, over someone who's nice-smelling but a terrorist-apologist euroweenie. That work for you?

Nightie night..
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 07:58 am
This post deserves repetition. ebrown and I don't always agree, but here, there is absolutely no daylight between us in either idea or in emotional response.

ebrown_p wrote:
I am sorry Tico et. al.... but this is a bit hard to take.

Conservatives (including Pat Buchanan and those on this very forum) vilify vast numbers of people. This vilification is not just on this forum, but in real life.

- Homosexuals are accused of wanting to destroy society.
- American Citizens of Latino descent are accused of treachery for being part of an assumed "invasion".
- Democrats are said to "hate America" and to cheer terrorism.
- Jewish anti-defamation groups are said to be attacking Christianity.
- Democrats (who support Social Security) are socialists.

And now the call is for Civility?

So take your fellow American citizen who you will believe in your heart is willingly destroying the very fabric of America... you will smile and say "hello" even as you deny him the right to marry, or to not be treated unfairly because of his religion

This is civility? Come on. This is unabashed hypocrisy.

This cracks me up almost as much as when (a little while ago) you had conservatives complaining about "politics of personal destruction".

If you read Buchanan's book, you will understand even better how ridiculous this call for civility is coming from conservatives.

Yeah right.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 09:14 am
nimh wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I sorta missed the "[positive]" in the first part of your response. Or are you suggesting "being rude to an individual on the subway" as the positive?

Hehheh, good catch. True, you had to derive the accompanying positive (re political ethics - not peddling the most hateful political stuff, opposing torture in all its euphemisms) from context and stuff. So it wasnt as straightforward the way I said it was. Will do better next time.

Ticomaya wrote:
But, just for the old year ... I would also prefer a patriotic, polite person, over a nice-smelling, terrorist-apologist euroweenie. ("Patriotic" being the negative -- it is a negative, right? -- and "nice-smelling" being the positive.)

Hmmm, patriotic as negative... doesnt really work for me, I kinda think of patriotism - good, nationalism - bad. But it might work for some I guess. But it doesnt work for you, in any case, and thats what counts here.

Plus, of course, you need to work on the parallel opposites to get a proper retort here. I mean, in my version, you had the rude <-> polite opposition, and the opposition between hateful politics peddler / torture apologist <-> scrupulous political ethics. You line em up like that, pick a positive from the one and wed it to the negative from the other, and vice versa. I mean, focus here.

So, whatta we got here. You got your terrorist-apologist euroweenie (negative); polite (positive); nice-smelling (positive) and patriotic (positive - well, far as you and I are concerned anyway). Three positives, that doesnt work. Well, patriotic is the positive equivalent to terrorist-apologist euroweenie, obviously. So then you got, say, nice-smelling, and you need a negative to match that - smelling like a fresh turd, for example.

OK, try this on for size. You prefer a guy who smells like a fresh turd but is patriotic, over someone who's nice-smelling but a terrorist-apologist euroweenie. That work for you?

Nightie night..


I thought I covered my bases when I said:

Ticomaya wrote:
I would also prefer a pissed-off, rude person over a nice-smelling, terrorist-apologist euroweenie.


Goodnight.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 09:22 am
blatham wrote:
This post deserves repetition. ebrown and I don't always agree, but here, there is absolutely no daylight between us in either idea or in emotional response.


I've pretty much determined a good summary of both your and ebrown's positions here is that one ought to feel no social constraints in following one's desires to be rude to strangers one encounters on the street or on a train, because conservatives "villify vast numbers of people" and post Ann Coulter articles on web forums.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:01 am
Well, if that's the case then I strongly recommend you order up the Acme Intellect Sharpener and toss in the extra bit for the Integrity Enhancer attachment.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:03 am
blatham wrote:
Well, if that's the case then I strongly recommend you order up the Acme Intellect Sharpener and toss in the extra bit for the Integrity Enhancer attachment.


... if you promise to check ebay for a Head/Ass Extractor, and spring for the next day delivery.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:25 am
Sometimes, all the



LOVE



on A2K is too overwhelming to conceive!!!! Laughing
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:30 am
Happy New Year, snood. Smile
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 10:37 am
Same backatcha, Tico.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 12:33 am
I just stopped by this lovely sado-masochistic workshop to say that I'm so glad to see that we're all getting everything we seem to need........some of us more than others it appears....... Happy New Year everyone.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 12:38 am
You're following me around, aren't you, Lola?
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 12:41 am
Ticomaya wrote:
You're following me around, aren't you, Lola?


Can't get enough of you, darlin.......
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 12:43 am
Trying not to interrupt, Osso waves to Lola..
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 12:50 am
Hey Osso! Good to see ya. check out the cafe........

Actually though, I visited this thread because I heard there was an A2K member I haven't yet met. LSM, I think her name is.....she hales from my home state........the big lone star one...........I've been told I shouldn't miss the show.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 04:34 am
Yeah, enjoy the show, but bring your treading boots.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 08:46 am
This thread is surreal. Habibi may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he actually is consistently civil here. So the white night of right-wing civility here, engaged for page after page in decrying rudeness, ascribed without substantiation to everyone it is pleased to describe as "leftists," describes Habibi as, quote, "a smelly, terrorist-apologist euroweenie." Yeah, that's civil, no rudeness there.

Somebody cue the Twilight Zone theme music . . .
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 09:26 am
Stretches the credulity, don't it?

(was wonderin' when you'd show up)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 09:53 am
I was here before. I advocated shooting the woman on the train. Now i think we might need to shoot several members, as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 10:12 am
I was shot already. And a German counts for three.
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High Seas
 
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Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2007 10:48 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I was shot already. And a German counts for three.



Quote:
Kramer v. Union Free School Dist., 395 U.S. 621 (1969). The Court assumed without deciding that the franchise in some circumstances could be limited to those ''primarily interested'' or ''primarily affected'' by the outcome, but found that the restriction permitted some persons with no interest to vote and disqualified others with an interest. Justices Stewart, Black, and Harlan dissented. Id. at 594.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/32.html#f97



Walter -if you're citing the above as precedent, could you clarify in what way you are ''primarily interested'' or ''primarily affected'' so as to arrive at your claim of a 3:1 ratio?!
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