McCain 08?

LoneStarMadam wrote:

What is a hero? That word is tossed around pretty loose & fast, I'd like someone to explain what a hero is.

OK, here´s my take. I personally believe that anyone who survived their war service in the jungle of Vietnam or the battlefields of WW2 and was not driven to Abu G.-type misdeeds is a hero. But by ways of more objective measurement, I look at the medals and honors that were awarded to these military men and women for their acts of bravery.

nimh wrote:

OK, here´s my take. I personally believe that anyone who survived their war service in the jungle of Vietnam or the battlefields of WW2 and was not driven to Abu G.-type misdeeds is a hero. But by ways of more objective measurement, I look at the medals and honors that were awarded to these military men and women for their acts of bravery.

Those medals & honors were given out very sparingly during WWII, not until Vietnam were medals handed out without extensive proof that they were earned. That is so unfair to those that have/did earn them. There's very few GIs that don't have a story about a bogus medal/honor being given to some undeserving fake. I would never venture to guess who did or did not earn them, but the ones that were there know, the ones that received them under false pretenses also know.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

nimh wrote:

OK, here´s my take. I personally believe that anyone who survived their war service in the jungle of Vietnam or the battlefields of WW2 and was not driven to Abu G.-type misdeeds is a hero. But by ways of more objective measurement, I look at the medals and honors that were awarded to these military men and women for their acts of bravery.

Those medals & honors were given out very sparingly during WWII, not until Vietnam were medals handed out without extensive proof that they were earned. That is so unfair to those that have/did earn them. There's very few GIs that don't have a story about a bogus medal/honor being given to some undeserving fake. I would never venture to guess who did or did not earn them, but the ones that were there know, the ones that received them under false pretenses also know.

What an odd discussion this is.

Here I am, the leftist, defending the record of Vietnam veterans and the worthiness of each of our respect -- and there you are, the red-blooded conservative, belittling the importance and meaning of the medals they got.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

nimh wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

What is a hero? That word is tossed around pretty loose & fast, I'd like someone to explain what a hero is.

OK, here´s my take. I personally believe that anyone who survived their war service in the jungle of Vietnam or the battlefields of WW2 and was not driven to Abu G.-type misdeeds is a hero. But by ways of more objective measurement, I look at the medals and honors that were awarded to these military men and women for their acts of bravery.

Those medals & honors were given out very sparingly during WWII, not until Vietnam were medals handed out without extensive proof that they were earned. That is so unfair to those that have/did earn them. There's very few GIs that don't have a story about a bogus medal/honor being given to some undeserving fake. I would never venture to guess who did or did not earn them, but the ones that were there know, the ones that received them under false pretenses also know.

I don't personally know of anyone who received medals during Vietnam that were bogus but i do know that officers handed them out to each other like candy. So what? Everyone that served, in one way or another, deserved them.

You either did not read what I've posted about those medals or you didn't comprehend, either way

Everyone that served, in one way or another, deserved them.

Xingu, there's an interesting background piece on the hurdles Romney faces in his attempt at catering to the religious right at TNR now - dont know if its free: Social conservatives rain on Mitt Romney's parade.

whatever.

okie wrote:

Dyslexia , [..] Does your list include John Kerry, Al Gore, [..] Harry Reid [..]?

It did.

It´s good form to at least read the posts you respond to, you know.

okie wrote:

My point was that the Democrats know better than to try to smear McCain's military service when this issue is not exactly their strong point. I stand by that.

Well, what you actually said was that the Democrats have few people who served honorably in your armed forces to defend your country at the top of their party at this point.

You stand by that, too? Fewer than the Republicans?

dyslexia wrote:

whatever.

Ya know, I just got it, I was thinking about the officers were handing them out to each other like candy, that was a little dig at my husband. I think it's sick & twisted to bring posters family members onto a thread for the purpose of insulting the poster. But, I have come to expect nothing more of you. You have gone too far, you know nothing of my husband, you are nothing & don't exist as far as I'm concerned.

McCain continues to shoot himself in the foot by being a hawk with no follow-up solution. He's damaging his own chance by supporting Bush on the Iraq war. I thought he was much smarter.