When Does Life Begin?

Just about everyone starts their autobiography with "I was born on …." I'd say that is pretty conclusive evidence that for human beings, life effectively begins at birth.

The title of this thread is "When Does Life Begin?"

Whether or not what a woman chooses is any of our business was not part of that question.

You only prove what I said in my WHOLE statement Cicerone. People twist truth to support what they want.

neologist wrote:

The title of this thread is "When Does Life Begin?"

Whether or not what a woman chooses is any of our business was not part of that question.

I like Neo's answer and I think it doesn't matter what I think. But as long as people allow their own selfishness to determine whether the child is worthwhile or not there is no convincing them - they want what they want and they will twist the truth to suit their needs. That is human nature. No one is above it - but I am up for it today so....here goes.

I am pro-life. I should not have any influence over all the conceived fetuses. It is mankind's responsibility to care for all living things. We should not use our own lack of concern, understanding or time to determine whether a living child should have that opportunity...and it should certainly not define that unborn life. If we as women are old enough to decide to have sex, then we should be resonsible for the outcome of what the possibilities are of having that sex. Responsibility being not to kill because it is bad timing, or it was a bad decision but to handle the outcome of our actions with the understanding that this child is exactly that - a child. Sure it sucks...but sometimes when you play with fire you get burned. Sometimes when we take a chance we get by - great, but if not, we should deal with it morally and with a care for the life that is in us.

Geography should have no bearing on whether a child is considered a valuable life. Whether in or out of the womb a child is a precious thing and is full of promise. If we cannot bring that child up or do not want to, then there are so many who do...who long for it. Sometimes doing what is right is costly. But in the end we have made this world a better place because of it.

I like Neo's answer and I think it doesn't matter what I think. But as long as people allow their own selfishness to determine whether the child is worthwhile or not there is no convincing them - they want what they want and they will twist the truth to suit their needs. That is human nature. No one is above it - but I am up for it today so....here goes.

I am pro-life. I should not have any influence over all the conceived fetuses. It is mankind's responsibility to care for all living things. We should not use our own lack of concern, understanding or time to determine whether a living child should have that opportunity...and it should certainly not define that unborn life. If we as women are old enough to decide to have sex, then we should be resonsible for the outcome of what the possibilities are of having that sex. Responsibility being not to kill because it is bad timing, or it was a bad decision but to handle the outcome of our actions with the understanding that this child is exactly that - a child. Sure it sucks...but sometimes when you play with fire you get burned. Sometimes when we take a chance we get by - great, but if not, we should deal with it morally and with a care for the life that is in us.

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What you are describing is a trial by fire. I'm not impressed by your arguement. It would appear you are fine with others strife, as long as it is far from you. The truth is that people need to have better birth control options avalible and people need to be educated on how to effectively use them. Nobody can argue that fewer unplanned pregnancies will yield fewer abortions. It's about enabling our culture to CHOOSE to keep their child NOT about criminalizing women.

Geography should have no bearing on whether a child is considered a valuable life. Whether in or out of the womb a child is a precious thing and is full of promise. If we cannot bring that child up or do not want to, then there are so many who do...who long for it. Sometimes doing what is right is costly. But in the end we have made this world a better place because of it.

Neo,
Given you appear to accept the inherent presupposition of a beginning as per "When Does Life Begin?" you would do well to substantiate reincarnation as false.

The title of this thread is "When Does Life Begin?"

Whether or not what a woman chooses is any of our business was not part of that question.

Chumly wrote:

Neo,
Given you appear to accept the inherent presupposition of a beginning as per "When Does Life Begin?" you would do well to substantiate reincarnation as false.

Congratulations:

You win the two Homers.

neologist wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Neo,
Given you appear to accept the inherent presupposition of a beginning as per "When Does Life Begin?" you would do well to substantiate reincarnation as false.

Congratulations:

You win the two Homers.

Are you saying Reincarnation is less valid than your Christian beliefs?

Chumly wrote:

neologist wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Neo,
Given you appear to accept the inherent presupposition of a beginning as per "When Does Life Begin?" you would do well to substantiate reincarnation as false.

Congratulations:

You win the two Homers.

Are you saying Reincarnation is less valid than your Christian beliefs?

Are you saying that all beliefs are equally valid, Chumly?

Are you saying that all beliefs are equally valid