When Does Life Begin?

They obviously already have children. "Because they could" suggests and even greater disconcern for life. A contempt for life for that matter. being able to "get away with it," hardly seems believeable.
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Some people have the temerity to try and control the actions of other humans; CLUE: it can't be done.

Perhaps she is using abortion as birth control. Perhaps she is on birth control, and was on antibiotics. Perhaps the condom broke.

Many situations exist, none of which should be policed by the state or you.

Treppy - You seem to think "convieniance" is a honest word. It trivializes the situation, further, you're not qualified to judge what is simply inconvieniant and which is more.

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Intrepid: It would be interesting to know why your are so passionate about women having abortions. Are you a champion for other causes?

It's not (NOT) about women having abortions. It's about the woman choosing what's best under her own situation and circumstances; it's called "private" choice. In other words, it's none of your business what any woman you don't know chooses to do with her own life or her fetus.
There are laws on the books on "murder."

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Perhaps she is using abortion as birth control. Perhaps she is on birth control, and was on antibiotics. Perhaps the condom broke.

Many situations exist, none of which should be policed by the state or you.

Treppy - You seem to think "convieniance" is a honest word. It trivializes the situation, further, you're not qualified to judge what is simply inconvieniant and which is more.

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Nor are you. And, the name is not Treppy.

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I am not qualified to say whether a woman aborts out of "convieniance" or something greater. I am qualified to say that women exist that non-trivial reasons to have abortions. Their existance independant of my ability to tell the difference is what matters. I don't have to be able to decide, because it is not my bussiness. The only people qualified to decide is the women, and their only qualified to make the choice about themselves.

My beliefs don't require me to be a qualified source, yours do. You haven't proved how it's your bussiness, and you won't ever be able to, Treppy.

It would be interesting to know why your are so passionate about women having abortions. Are you a champion for other causes?

Yeah... sure...

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In Bartikus' case, he was talking about civil conversations generally happening in person rather than the smartass comments that are given behind the safety and anonymity of a keyboard. He made no threat to you (from what I read) he was just trying to get you to try to be more civil in your rantings.

Above in red: Safety? Safety from what exactly Treppy? I thought you were making the claim that I'd encounter no such threat based on his post. Seems to me that you fully acknowledge what he was implying.

It's so good to be here in the Mechanical Engineering Building. I'm so SAFE here. Much more SAFE than any of the other plaes I go. I should take the keyboard with me when I go to East St. Louis next time.

The truth is that I am quite used to debate, debate in person too. If Barty wants to try and back pedal out of saying he threatened me, and you want to help him, I really don't care. I'm not threatened by him, and had we been in person, his debate would have gone even worse for him.

There's no way to avoid questions for days in person without being called on it.

Bart is a coward, and he earned it. I gave him a second chance for respect, and he opted to not take it. Now it seems he whines every other post on how he is picked on or singled out. He wants the attention and he singled himself out, not me or anyone else for that matter.

Big picture, this is a waste to time. Fungo tried to redirect the thread back to the topic, and it seems Barty and you only wish to thrown ad homenims until Jesus, Weezer, or the McRib returns.

For those in the pro-life crowd that think that people who abort have a skewed view of life, what do you say to the fact that the same number of abortions are performed on women who have had 0 births as women who have had 4+ births?

I can understand your theory if the woman simply didn't know what to expect, but if you've already had 4 babies, you understand quite well.

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Intrepid, You talk about morals as if your's is the only one that has any human value. You really don't understand human history or contemporary life.

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Intrepid, You talk about morals as if your's is the only one that has any human value. You really don't understand human history or contemporary life.

Why don't you educate me?

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Intrepid, You talk about morals as if your's is the only one that has any human value. You really don't understand human history or contemporary life.

Why don't you educate me?

It's too late for you!