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When Does Life Begin?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 03:51 pm
BTW, I have a bridge for sale in Montana. Interested? I'll sell it real cheap.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 03:51 pm
When walking through a forest at night filled with boobie traps......might a lantern be helpful CI to make the right choice of steps?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 03:55 pm
Always bring my Mag flashlight with me.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:02 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Always bring my Mag flashlight with me.


If a woman/young girl.. you did not know.... needed it....would you allow them to walk with you?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:13 pm
Bartikus wrote:
You pro information...Pro Facts? Pro choicer CI?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:15 pm
The function of freedom is to free somebody else.
--- Toni Morrison
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:18 pm
Bartikus wrote:
When walking through a forest at night filled with boobie traps......might a lantern be helpful CI to make the right choice of steps?


Here's the difference; I can make the "free" decision to carry a flashlight or not. I do not impose on others what I think is the right thing for them to do. The right choice for me is not necessarily the right choice for anybody else. I can live with that!
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:21 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
When walking through a forest at night filled with boobie traps......might a lantern be helpful CI to make the right choice of steps?


Here's the difference; I can make the "free" decision to carry a flashlight or not. I do not impose on others what I think is the right thing for them to do. The right choice for me is not necessarily the right choice for anybody else. I can live with that!


She is asking for accurate information (light) to base her decision upon.

Do you deny her of it? Do you leave her in the dark?

Examples:

Is this fetus a human life?

Is the procedure painful for myself or the fetus? What kind of pain?

these are just a couple questions abortion clinics are asked.

Does she deserve the truth no matter the question? Can she truly make her own moral choice without it? Is she truly free without it?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:36 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Always bring my Mag flashlight with me.


If a woman/young girl.. you did not know.... needed it....would you allow them to walk with you?


Been there, done that!
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:37 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
When walking through a forest at night filled with boobie traps......might a lantern be helpful CI to make the right choice of steps?


Here's the difference; I can make the "free" decision to carry a flashlight or not. I do not impose on others what I think is the right thing for them to do. The right choice for me is not necessarily the right choice for anybody else. I can live with that!


She is asking for accurate information (light) to base her decision upon.

Do you deny her of it? Do you leave her in the dark?

Examples:

Is this fetus a human life?

Is the procedure painful for myself or the fetus? What kind of pain?

these are just a couple questions abortion clinics are asked.

Does she deserve the truth no matter the question? Can she truly make her own moral choice without it? Is she truly free without it?


Pro Choicer?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:40 pm
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:48 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.


Without pro life.....there is'nt a choice! In more ways than one apparently.

Thank you for your honesty.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:50 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.


Without pro life.....there is'nt a choice! In more ways than one apparently.

Thank you for your honesty.


Your belief and observation; now at least be consistent with it.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:51 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.


Without pro life.....there is'nt a choice! In more ways than one apparently.

Thank you for your honesty.


Your belief and observation; now at least be consistent with it.


It's not hard to be consistent for you is it?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:56 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.


Without pro life.....there is'nt a choice! In more ways than one apparently.

Thank you for your honesty.


Your belief and observation; now at least be consistent with it.


My observation is based on your remarks...unless I misunderstand you?

You consider yourself pro choice 100% but are not the least bit concerned as to whether women/young girls are receiving accurate info from clinics.

That right?

You also have better things to occupy your life? Like conversing with me, RL, Baddog...regarding these issues? lol

No one can say your inconsistent....I can surely give you that! lol Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:07 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I don't control what abortion clinics say or do. Not any of my interest or concern. There are also christian churches who teach pro-life; not my interest or concern. They'll continue to do so whether I "like it or not."
I don't bother with such foolish issues; it's beyond my realm of influence for or against and/or control.

In other words, I have better things to occupy my life with.


Without pro life.....there is'nt a choice! In more ways than one apparently.

Thank you for your honesty.


Your belief and observation; now at least be consistent with it.


My observation is based on your remarks...unless I misunderstand you?

You consider yourself pro choice 100% but are not the least bit concerned as to whether women/young girls are receiving accurate info from clinics.

That right?

You also have better things to occupy your life? Like conversing with me, RL, Baddog...regarding these issues? lol

No one can say your inconsistent....I can surely give you that! lol Laughing


How often must something be repeated for you to understand? Those "what if's" you describe is out of my realm to influence or control Got that? Many, if not most, people make stupid choices. It's called "freedom of choice." I really don't have the wherewithal to help them. People still buy lottery tickets. I can't help them either! Please, engage your brain - if that's possible.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:12 pm
Thank you for your response.....your position is clear. Let us not keep you from the better things any longer. Bye.

broken glass.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:22 pm
Mine is very clear; your's not. Hypocrite is the best word to describe people like you.

I'm still waiting to learn what my morality is - since you seem to know what it is.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:25 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Mine is very clear; your's not. Hypocrite is the best word to describe people like you.

I'm still waiting to learn what my morality is - since you seem to know what it is.


If my position is not clear to you....on what do you lay the charge of hypocrite against me? Faith?

Did I say I knew what your morality was?
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:33 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
Is accurate information important to you Ci regarding making choices?


Not my responsibility to make sure everyone gets accurate information.


I asked if it was important for YOU to get as accurate information as possible when making choices? YOU personally?

Are you doin the cha cha?
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