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When Does Life Begin?

 
 
baddog1
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 11:38 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
baddog: You're talking to Deist - right?

Guess again. What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby?
How can any woman's choice be unselfish? It's none of your business.


Keep up there ci. Perhaps you should re-read Deist's statement to kate. Then again - never mind, you won't get it.

And while you're on the subject; What is your interest in impoverished children? How about those who you accuse of not helping impoverished children?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 11:47 am
baddog1 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
baddog: You're talking to Deist - right?

Guess again. What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby?
How can any woman's choice be unselfish? It's none of your business.


Keep up there ci. Perhaps you should re-read Deist's statement to kate. Then again - never mind, you won't get it.

And while you're on the subject; What is your interest in impoverished children? How about those who you accuse of not helping impoverished children?



I'm not advocating for all fetus to have preference over its mother like you fanatics, and their choice doesn't impose any responsibility to me whether they decide to have the baby or to abort. It's up to the mother (and sometimes father) to provide for their choice to have or not have a baby. It's a concept you completely ignore or are incapable of understanding.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 11:50 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
baddog1 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
baddog: You're talking to Deist - right?

Guess again. What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby?
How can any woman's choice be unselfish? It's none of your business.


Keep up there ci. Perhaps you should re-read Deist's statement to kate. Then again - never mind, you won't get it.

And while you're on the subject; What is your interest in impoverished children? How about those who you accuse of not helping impoverished children?




I'm not advocating for all fetus to have preference over its mother like you fanatics, and their choice doesn't impose any responsibility to me whether they decide to have the baby or to abort. It's up to the mother (and sometimes father) to provide for their choice to have or not have a baby. It's a concept you completely ignore or are incapable of understanding.


Speaking of ignoring, I will repost:

What is your interest in impoverished children?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 11:52 am
Why do I need to explain to you, a radical, what my interest is in impoverished children?

Besides, if you had half a brain, you'd know I've already answered that question on this thread - often.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 12:02 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Why do I need to explain to you, a radical, what my interest is in impoverished children?

Besides, if you had half a brain, you'd know I've already answered that question on this thread - often.


So it's OK for you to ask this:
cicerone imposter wrote:
"What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby?


However you cry radical-foul when I ask this: "What is your interest in impoverished children?"

Are you a hypocrite? Rolling Eyes
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 12:06 pm
baddog1 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Why do I need to explain to you, a radical, what my interest is in impoverished children?

Besides, if you had half a brain, you'd know I've already answered that question on this thread - often.


So it's OK for you to ask this:
cicerone imposter wrote:
"What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby?


However you cry radical-foul when I ask this: "What is your interest in impoverished children?"

Are you a hypocrite? Rolling Eyes


See? I told you you would never comprehend this issue from a logical or common sense point of view.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 01:26 pm
The logical common sense answer would be........(for the logicially and common sense impaired).....?.......is?

Abortion allows fewer impoverished children?

Maybe.

or maybe abortion allows the destruction of a person who helps millions of impoverished or someone who discovers cures for various diseases.....maybe.

We don't know who these children are or were to become now do we?
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baddog1
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 01:32 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
See? I told you you would never comprehend this issue from a logical or common sense point of view.


Yeah - my examples provide no sense (common or otherwise) or logic.

"What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby"?

and

"What is your interest in impoverished children?" - have no similarities.

I see it now. How could I be so blind? Shocked
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 01:41 pm
Bartikus wrote:
The logical common sense answer would be........(for the logicially and common sense impaired).....?.......is?

Abortion allows fewer impoverished children?

Maybe.

or maybe abortion allows the destruction of a person who helps millions of impoverished or someone who discovers cures for various diseases.....maybe.

We don't know who these children are or were to become now do we?


It's not my choice, you ignoramus! I have no (none) influence on what other men or women choose to do. I don't have any influence on the population of this planet - to increase or decrease it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 01:42 pm
baddog1 wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
See? I told you you would never comprehend this issue from a logical or common sense point of view.


Yeah - my examples provide no sense (common or otherwise) or logic.

"What is your interest in the woman and/or the baby"?

and

"What is your interest in impoverished children?" - have no similarities.

I see it now. How could I be so blind? Shocked




It's because you fail to understand simple logic.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 01:49 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
The logical common sense answer would be........(for the logicially and common sense impaired).....?.......is?

Abortion allows fewer impoverished children?

Maybe.

or maybe abortion allows the destruction of a person who helps millions of impoverished or someone who discovers cures for various diseases.....maybe.

We don't know who these children are or were to become now do we?


It's not my choice, you ignoramus! I have no (none) influence on what other men or women choose to do. I don't have any influence on the population of this planet - to increase or decrease it.


I never said it was your choice.....did I? I asked a simple question and I get namecalling? Nice.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 04:13 pm
Bartikus wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
The logical common sense answer would be........(for the logicially and common sense impaired).....?.......is?

Abortion allows fewer impoverished children?

Maybe.

or maybe abortion allows the destruction of a person who helps millions of impoverished or someone who discovers cures for various diseases.....maybe.

We don't know who these children are or were to become now do we?


It's not my choice, you ignoramus! I have no (none) influence on what other men or women choose to do. I don't have any influence on the population of this planet - to increase or decrease it.


I never said it was your choice.....did I? I asked a simple question and I get namecalling? Nice.


You are making assumptions addressed to "me." Maybe this, maybe that says nothing and offers nothing.

All I have done is respond to the questions you did ask. Got a problem with that? Quit asking stupid q's.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 07:32 pm
Your responses I do not have any problem with. It's your insistence on using derogatory remarks against me.

I made no assumptions and asked questions that you deem stupid.

That's fine but, lets not pretend your responses were answers to said stupid questions.

Why answer or even respond to such things if they are so stupid and beneath you CI?

Right.... Rolling Eyes

Like glass I tell ya.

In relation to the topic of this thread.....you already gave an answer.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 29 Oct, 2007 08:50 pm
Crawl back into your zoo - where you may be more comfortable.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 04:08 am
This conversation would be going down much differently face to face. It's pathetic.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 06:30 am
Bartikus wrote:
This conversation would be going down much differently face to face. It's pathetic.


Bart:

ci's obviously off his meds again. Hopefully Mrs. ci will intervene. :wink:
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 10:46 am
I agree, it is pathetic; all of you want to have a say in a woman's choice of whether to go to full term or to abort, but don't even know the woman or even care what happens to her or the baby after the birth. It is pathetic; you pro-lifers seem to miss the obvious that it's none of your business. If you are really so concerned about "life," spend more of your efforts on the living. There are millions of children without shelter and food - and without parents.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 11:08 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
I agree, it is pathetic; all of you want to have a say in a woman's choice of whether to go to full term or to abort, but don't even know the woman or even care what happens to her or the baby after the birth...


Do you care what happens to the woman or the baby after birth ci?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 11:24 am
Ofcoarse, but I'm not trying to impose my morals on her or the baby. She should be free to choose without "outsiders" telling her what is moral or not moral about her choice.

Since I do not try to impose my morals on her, she can decide for herself the difficult decision she must make to have or not to have her baby.

Those wishing to impose their morals on her also have the moral responsibility to make sure she and her baby are cared for with their energies and money - after the birth; not just when she must decide to have the baby or to abort it. Also, if "life" (the fetus) is so precious to pro-lifers, what are you doing to care for the living children of this world? There's a thing called "consistency" that you pro-lifers fail to meet.

Hypocrites of the first order.
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baddog1
 
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Reply Tue 30 Oct, 2007 11:50 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
...Since I do not try to impose my morals on her, she can decide for herself the difficult decision she must make to have or not to have her baby...


But you have no problem imposing your morals on 'us'. Please explain the difference between you imposing your morals on 'us' and 'us' imposing our morals on anyone else.

Also; do you vote?
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