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THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2007 06:40 pm
Advocate wrote:
maporsche wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Dave, I am not only unafraid of guns, I have considered getting one for home protection. I don't think I need a concealed handgun, but would seek a permit should I need one. I fired many types of guns in the past.

Saying this, I still believe in strict gun control. We should do all we can to keep Sat. nite specials away from the punks.


How do you limit the guns from punks without limiting the guns from citizens for self defense?


Easily! The country should strictly limit the sales of handguns, with none being sold to minors Etc.

This says that the DEATH penalty applies to being YOUNG,
and that if any criminal chooses to slaughter a minor,
that 's OK -- the victim has NO right to fight back.

From that I DISSENT.
David
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 04:51 pm
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 07:37 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.

I have not had a chance to get the story on this.
How many of the victims were armed in their own defense ?

How many of the victims were busy OBEYING gun control laws ?

As a general rule, gun control laws are good for the murderers
and bad for the murderers' victims.

Armed victims are usually too dangerous for the average murderer.

David
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 12:42 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.

I have not had a chance to get the story on this.
How many of the victims were armed in their own defense ?

How many of the victims were busy OBEYING gun control laws ?

As a general rule, gun control laws are good for the murderers
and bad for the murderers' victims.

Armed victims are usually too dangerous for the average murderer.

David


hey you ignorant little jerk off. try not to be your usually fuking stupid self, unless you think its wise to take me on with a hand gun as i pick you off from a 100 yards with a rifle, because that was the reality of the situation today and only a creep like you would use such a tragedy to score points.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 01:37 am
kuvasz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.

I have not had a chance to get the story on this.
How many of the victims were armed in their own defense ?

How many of the victims were busy OBEYING gun control laws ?

As a general rule, gun control laws are good for the murderers
and bad for the murderers' victims.

Armed victims are usually too dangerous for the average murderer.

David


hey you ignorant little jerk off. try not to be your usually **** stupid self, unless you think its wise to take me on with a hand gun as i pick you off from a 100 yards with a rifle, because that was the reality of the situation today and only a creep like you would use such a tragedy to score points.

So, the personal insults & hysterical gushing aside,
it is your position that he was a sniper,
and that no one with a handgun can be within 100 yards of a sniper, in a mall, right ?
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 02:26 am
David do yourself a favour and go to a psychiatrist, get an assesment please.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 04:40 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
kuvasz wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.

I have not had a chance to get the story on this.
How many of the victims were armed in their own defense ?

How many of the victims were busy OBEYING gun control laws ?

As a general rule, gun control laws are good for the murderers
and bad for the murderers' victims.

Armed victims are usually too dangerous for the average murderer.

David


hey you ignorant little jerk off. try not to be your usually **** stupid self, unless you think its wise to take me on with a hand gun as i pick you off from a 100 yards with a rifle, because that was the reality of the situation today and only a creep like you would use such a tragedy to score points.

So, the personal insults & hysterical gushing aside,
it is your position that he was a sniper,
and that no one with a handgun can be within 100 yards of a sniper, in a mall, right ?


You are simply a walking colostomy bag . How dare you take a heartbreaking tragedy for 10 families and wield their misery for political racketball. You might as well steal a dead man's wallet coming across his corpse. What a shameless little dung eater
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 04:44 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
another eight, at least, shot dead in Nebraska

I dont think Americans should be allowed to have guns.



What about English people owning knives or shaving instruments??

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/

Yet another Englishman who never owned a gun (like Jack the Ripper)...

Part of the reason you don't read much about mass murders in England is that the English press typically buries such stories, e.g.

Quote:

"Seven dismembered bodies and a bloody axe have been found in a backyard in Soho. Foul play is suspected; a man has been detained."



"Foul play is suspected" You don't say......


That was an actual London news story which appearerd on about the twelth page of the paper it was printed in.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:14 am
I didnt say I was against gun ownership. I said I didnt think Americans should be allowed to have guns. There seems to be an unhealthy fascination with guns that runs deep within the American psyche. Its exhibited by more than one poster here. Whilst gun ownership is higher in the US than just about anywhere else making access to weapons easier for any potential killer, its whats going on between his ears rather than the gun in his hand which is the root of the problem. And that problem manifests itself regularly in American shopping malls universities schools and places of work, much more frequently than anywhere else. Sorry if that hurts.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:21 am
Oralloy wrote:
Advocate wrote:

Require permanent records of those owning guns, and oversee resales. Etc.


No. The government would abuse such powers were they granted.


Australia has these exact laws. I've never seen nor heard anyone in Australia complain of Govt abuse of such laws.

Of course we have our own gun lobbyists who object in general to such laws.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:08 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
... And that problem manifests itself regularly in American shopping malls universities schools and places of work, much more frequently than anywhere else. Sorry if that hurts.


That is certainly true. We certainly pay a price for the second amendment, nonetheless we view the price as fairly minimal and acceptable.

What we DON't have in America and what the second amendment prevents is guys like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, or Hideki Tojo running the country, and the cost in lives of THAT kind of **** is counted in millions and tens of millions and not in tens.

Last time that broke out in Europe, which was about sixty years ago, the British were already deep into some sort of a gun control scheme and there was an overwhelming concern that Germans might invade the place and nobody would have anything to shoot at them.

They actually had a big emergency gun drive here and asked everybody who had any sort of an extra rifle which used anything close to standard caliber ammo, particularly 30-06 or British 303 to donate them to the cause and shiploads of such were sent over on an emergency basis.

And then, after the war, the Brits went straight back to the same stupid bullshit.

I ask you: what could be worse than being too stupid to learn from your own mistakes?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:15 am
That shopping mall in Omaha was a "gun free zone". Tell that to the victims. In fact, tell that to the entire culture of victimhood. That little "no guns" sticker isn't gonna protect your ass one little bit.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:24 am
cjhsa wrote:
In fact, tell that to the entire culture of victimhood....


The culture of victimhood exists because we have a rogue political party whose only skill in life is representing "victims".
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:26 am
More guns. You guys gotta get more guns in circulation. Beautiful christian america sends more killing tools out into the world than anyone else, as we know and as christ would love america for, but also you must circulate more guns into your own country. That christly combination of killing tools and third world levels of violence perpetrated by americans on other americans demonstrates so clearly how favored you surely are in christ's eyes.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:27 am
You know, when you think about it, even dogs learn from their own mistakes.

How many times have you seen it? A dogs gets hit by a car and manages to survive with just a broken leg or a run-over tail, and you will NEVER see that same dog cross a street carelessly again. Then of course, the dog's mind is not clouded over by ideologies.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:33 am
blatham wrote:
More guns. You guys gotta get more guns in circulation. Beautiful christian america sends more killing tools out into the world than anyone else, as we know and as christ would love america for, but also you must circulate more guns into your own country. That christly combination of killing tools and third world levels of violence perpetrated by americans on other americans demonstrates so clearly how favored you surely are in christ's eyes.


The quantity of firearms which the world needs would keep American industry at capacity for decades starting from now. You still have 60,000 people being killed by poisonous snakes in India for starters, which could not happen in a nation whose people were armed, and then you have the slammite world whose women obviously need firepower.

My own basic scheme for ridding the planet of I-Slam would be to provide every woman of marriageable age in the slammite world with a 9mm semiauto pistol and 100 rounds of ammo. Cost would be in the neighborhood of 50 billion USD and it would be money VERY well spent.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:39 am
gungasnake wrote:
You know, when you think about it, even dogs learn from their own mistakes.

How many times have you seen it? A dogs gets hit by a car and manages to survive with just a broken leg or a run-over tail, and you will NEVER see that same dog cross a street carelessly again. Then of course, the dog's mind is not clouded over by ideologies.


Yeah, know whatcha mean.
Just the other day, I saw a dog (that I happen to have witnessed get his leg broken in a hit-and-run) limp up to the street crossing, think twice about it, then turn back. So true, so true. A commonplace observation; happens all the time.






You are beyond help.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:54 am
kuvasz wrote:

You are simply a walking colostomy bag . How dare you take a heartbreaking tragedy for 10 families and wield their misery for political racketball. You might as well steal a dead man's wallet coming across his corpse. What a shameless little dung eater



I had to point this out to Roxxxanne (who never responded back) that this is the same argument that Gunga could use against you when you talk about dead soldiers as a critisim for the war in Iraq. If you changed your number "10" to "over 3000" it could easily be used to get on your case about the Iraq war.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 07:59 am
gungasnake wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
... And that problem manifests itself regularly in American shopping malls universities schools and places of work, much more frequently than anywhere else. Sorry if that hurts.


That is certainly true. We certainly pay a price for the second amendment, nonetheless we view the price as fairly minimal and acceptable.

What we DON't have in America and what the second amendment prevents is guys like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, or Hideki Tojo running the country, and the cost in lives of THAT kind of **** is counted in millions and tens of millions and not in tens.

Last time that broke out in Europe, which was about sixty years ago, the British were already deep into some sort of a gun control scheme and there was an overwhelming concern that Germans might invade the place and nobody would have anything to shoot at them.

They actually had a big emergency gun drive here and asked everybody who had any sort of an extra rifle which used anything close to standard caliber ammo, particularly 30-06 or British 303 to donate them to the cause and shiploads of such were sent over on an emergency basis.

And then, after the war, the Brits went straight back to the same stupid bullshit.

I ask you: what could be worse than being too stupid to learn from your own mistakes?
Your arguments get ever more bizarre. The NRA did collect some guns, but we didnt want them, and they were never shipped.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 08:05 am
The second amendment is my concealed weapons permit.
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