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THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 08:37 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
... And that problem manifests itself regularly in American shopping malls universities schools and places of work, much more frequently than anywhere else. Sorry if that hurts.


That is certainly true. We certainly pay a price for the second amendment, nonetheless we view the price as fairly minimal and acceptable.

What we DON't have in America and what the second amendment prevents is guys like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, or Hideki Tojo running the country, and the cost in lives of THAT kind of **** is counted in millions and tens of millions and not in tens.

Last time that broke out in Europe, which was about sixty years ago, the British were already deep into some sort of a gun control scheme and there was an overwhelming concern that Germans might invade the place and nobody would have anything to shoot at them.

They actually had a big emergency gun drive here and asked everybody who had any sort of an extra rifle which used anything close to standard caliber ammo, particularly 30-06 or British 303 to donate them to the cause and shiploads of such were sent over on an emergency basis.

And then, after the war, the Brits went straight back to the same stupid bullshit.

I ask you: what could be worse than being too stupid to learn from your own mistakes?
Your arguments get ever more bizarre. The NRA did collect some guns, but we didnt want them, and they were never shipped.


I'll have to get back to you on that one since it's from memory and not anything I've seen references for recently. Nonetheless I' ve read enough accounts from people who donated rifles and had them shipped that I have to assume you are being miseducated.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 08:41 am
I dont dispute they were collected, just not shipped to England. Might be interesting to find out what happened to them.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:16 pm
blatham wrote:
Quote:
More guns.

Yeah


Quote:
You guys gotta get more guns in circulation.

Yeah; we don 't have enuf.

Quote:

Beautiful Christian America sends more killing tools out into the world
than anyone else, as we know and as christ would love america for,
but also you must circulate more guns into your own country.
That Christly combination of killing tools and third world levels of violence
perpetrated by Americans on other Americans demonstrates so clearly how favored you surely are in Christ's eyes.

Whoever does not have a sword
better sell his cloak and buy one.
Christ Jesus Luke 22:36


Extrapolated into modern times,
I believe that Jesus wud encourage us to buy .44 revolvers.
David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:47 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
... And that problem manifests itself regularly in American shopping malls universities schools and places of work, much more frequently than anywhere else. Sorry if that hurts.


That is certainly true. We certainly pay a price for the second amendment, nonetheless we view the price as fairly minimal and acceptable.

What we DON't have in America and what the second amendment prevents is guys like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, or Hideki Tojo running the country, and the cost in lives of THAT kind of **** is counted in millions and tens of millions and not in tens.

Last time that broke out in Europe, which was about sixty years ago, the British were already deep into some sort of a gun control scheme and there was an overwhelming concern that Germans might invade the place and nobody would have anything to shoot at them.

They actually had a big emergency gun drive here and asked everybody who had any sort of an extra rifle which used anything close to standard caliber ammo, particularly 30-06 or British 303 to donate them to the cause and shiploads of such were sent over on an emergency basis.

And then, after the war, the Brits went straight back to the same stupid bullshit.

I ask you: what could be worse than being too stupid to learn from your own mistakes?

Your arguments get ever more bizarre.
The NRA did collect some guns,
but we didnt want them, and they were never shipped.

No, Steve.
Its not that thay were never shipped,
nor that Churchill did not want them.

Its only that you are a HISTORICAL IGNORAMOUS pretending to know
what you are talking about; ignorant FAKE.

After WWII, many of the borrowed guns were sent back to their American owners
by honest Englishmen.
Ask your grandfather or grandmother, and for goodness' sake,
take a course in English history
.

Maybe u thought that in 1940
when Churchill proudly and bravely declared that:
" ... we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,
and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island
or a large part of it were subjugated and starving,
then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet,
would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time,
the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue
and the liberation of the old"

u thought he meant that the citizens 'd use Karate or slingshots ?
He wanted lendlease; we sent it to him, including those guns.
David
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:50 pm
david wrote:
I believe that Jesus wud encourage us to buy .44 revolvers.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 05:53 pm
Ideally loaded with .44 special hollowpointed rounds,
with W-I-D-E cavities !
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 06:17 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Ideally loaded with .44 special hollowpointed rounds,
with W-I-D-E cavities !
and all this time I assumed you were a recovering jew. I didn't realize you followed the teachings of jesus.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 06:30 pm
dyslexia wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Ideally loaded with .44 special hollowpointed rounds,
with W-I-D-E cavities !
and all this time I assumed you were a recovering jew.
I didn't realize you followed the teachings of jesus.

Recovering from WHAT ?

Interestingly, 2000 years ago,
Jesus was not known to have said to his followers:
" hay, u know ? The Jews gave me a hard time,
so don 't be Jews any more " the same as in 1964,
Barry Goldwater did not say:
" the Americans did not elect me President,
so don 't be Americans any more. "

In times of early Christianity,
the Christians considered themselves to be Jews ( most of them ).
David
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 06:33 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Its only that you are a HISTORICAL IGNORAMOUS pretending to know
what you are talking about; ignorant FAKE.

After WWII, many of the borrowed guns were sent back to their American owners
by honest Englishmen.
you and your grunger friend have made the assertation that thousands of rifles and guns were donated by Americans and shipped to england so we could defeat hitler. When? Lets see if you are up for a little research. Prove it. Give some evidence. Support your claim.

Meanwhile I tell you its a myth. Or if you prefer a lie.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 08:57 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Its only that you are a HISTORICAL IGNORAMOUS pretending to know
what you are talking about; ignorant FAKE.

After WWII, many of the borrowed guns were sent back to their American owners
by honest Englishmen.
you and your grunger friend have made the assertation that thousands of rifles and guns were donated by Americans and shipped to england so we could defeat hitler. When? Lets see if you are up for a little research. Prove it. Give some evidence. Support your claim.

Meanwhile I tell you its a myth. Or if you prefer a lie.

Its not enuf that we sent the guns ( LOANED not donated ),
now the ignorant demands that I prove it.

I take that as a REFUSAL to consult your elders
or a damned school teacher. Are you a dropout ?
Do u know who Churchill was ?
Maybe another myth, u think ?

If u had any self-respect, u 'd Google it yourself,
or just ASK an old Englishman. Idiot.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 12:31 am
I think I will buy myself a really nice gun and shoot the flag.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 01:31 am
R u gonna REGISTER it first ?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 11:52 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Its only that you are a HISTORICAL IGNORAMOUS pretending to know
what you are talking about; ignorant FAKE.

After WWII, many of the borrowed guns were sent back to their American owners
by honest Englishmen.
you and your grunger friend have made the assertation that thousands of rifles and guns were donated by Americans and shipped to england so we could defeat hitler. When? Lets see if you are up for a little research. Prove it. Give some evidence. Support your claim.

Meanwhile I tell you its a myth. Or if you prefer a lie.

Its not enuf that we sent the guns ( LOANED not donated ),
now the ignorant demands that I prove it.

I take that as a REFUSAL to consult your elders
or a damned school teacher. Are you a dropout ?
Do u know who Churchill was ?
Maybe another myth, u think ?

If u had any self-respect, u 'd Google it yourself,
or just ASK an old Englishman. Idiot.

I'm not disputing Britain took masses of war material throughout the war under the lend-lease agreement. (And paid for it). I am disputing your claim that gun control laws in Britain resulted in a shortage of rifles, which the NRA supplied with "ship loads" of assorted weapons from American donors. You made that claim, its up to you to back it up.

On the other hand dont bother. There is no point in discussing anything with a semi-literate academically challenged gun fantasist. Go play with yourself.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 12:37 pm
blatham wrote:
I think I will buy myself a really nice gun and shoot the flag.



Actually.... I CAN think of one use a person of your ilk might have for a gun.

If you can find a sufficiently small caliber bolt-action rifle, possibly one of those new 17HMR ( .17 caliber) rimfire varmint rifles, you might could use it as a weenie-pump; in other words, if the bore of such a rifle were sealed by something little enough to fit inside it, then operating the bolt WOULD produce a vacuum of sorts.

That would save you the embarrassment of walking into any sort of sex shop and asking for such a thing...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 01:59 pm
That might have been slightly less than obvious.... what was meant was asking for such a thing in that kind of a size.

Welcome to the heavyweight division, Blatham....
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 02:51 pm
just what is it about you penis fantasists and barrels?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 03:11 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
just what is it about you penis fantasists and barrels?


Ask Blatham...
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 03:14 pm
Mon cher Blatham

What the **** is up with these Americans?
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 03:44 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
Mon cher Blatham

What the **** is up with these Americans?


Inbreds.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 7 Dec, 2007 03:49 pm
well clearly not all of them but I really wonder about this gun/penis/barrel/inadaquecy thing too many display.

I shouldnt have to say this but I will repeat, I like Americans/America. Mostly.
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