With the gun haters it only matters that a gun was involved. What they fail to grasp is that no other tool is used for personal protection of victims against criminals.
Really? No other tool has ever protected someone from a criminal? No baseball bats? No knives? No pointed sticks? No shrubberies? I've devolved into Monte Python because your statement is so ridiculous when you claim no tool other than guns has ever been used for protection.
They will dodge and duck the issue of drunk driving as far as they can because it exposes their faulty logic.
I don't think I dodged it at all. You on the other hand have made outrageous claims that you can't support with evidence. Cie la vie.
That gun bans have gotten people killed is irrelevant.
And it seems that carrying guns has gotten people killed is irrelevant as far as you are concerned.