H2O MAN
 
Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 02:28 pm
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/61.jpg
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 1 Dec, 2012 04:19 pm
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418204_10151962527945456_628813067_n.jpg
parados
 
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Reply Sat 1 Dec, 2012 04:44 pm
@H2O MAN,
It's simply amazing the crap you can find on facebook that is wrong.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp


H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 09:34 am
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/25022_567603183256874_622638572_n.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 10:13 am
@parados,
Actually, Switzerland has gotten its gun control legislation in line with European standards. Something, they had to do, because Switzerland is a Schengen country and due to it's other relations to the EU. And that's something, which is totally "forgotten" by US gun nuts ... but what is online on the Swiss government websites.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 10:31 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Some data to compare ...
Quote:
http://i50.tinypic.com/dbp8g1.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2po40ib.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/dwxaw2.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/s2qiht.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/1088rxu.jpg
Source

... but you should keep in mind that most guns in Switzerland are government owned: more than 260,000 in use by active soldiers, 1,600,000 by reservists. (Source: Statistical Office of the Swiss Federation)
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 11:18 am


How many of them use high capacity drum magazines?
Do you have any data on this?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 11:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,


Is it true that the Swiss regulate the ammunition?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 11:35 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Is it true that the Swiss regulate the ammunition?
The related law is very similar to any weapon law in any other European country: you can buy ammunition for those weapons you've got a licence for.

For the military weapons, you get the ammunition at the rifle range during exercise time. All unused ammunition can be taken home against receipt and must be kept at home according the regulations (Swiss gun act about gunnery off duty ["Verordnung über das Schiesswesen ausser Dienst (Schiessverordnung)"], article 63 - 3 and 4; article 125 - 3; article 150 - 1
military law.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 11:36 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

How many of them use high capacity drum magazines?
Do you have any data on this?
I only use the internet like you could do it as well. I couldn't find any data about this.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 11:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
This is from an official brochure (here copied from the issue, published by the canton [state] Basel-Landschaft [Basel-Country]). Though it's in German, you easily can guess what kind of weapons are forbidden to be owned in Switzerland:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2rxwf47.jpg

You can get any of those weapons only with a state or federal approval ... and have to give reasons why you want them, e.g. because it's used as a sports weapon or because you need it for your profession (knives).
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 12:05 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Ammunition forbidden in Switzerland:
- Ammunition with hard core bullets (steel, tungsten, porcelain, etc.);
- Ammunition with projectiles containing any explosive or incendiary device;
- Ammunition with one or more floors to the release of substances that damage the health of people in the long run;
- Ammunition and missile launchers for military explosion;
- Ammunition with projectiles for the transmission of electric shocks;
- Ammunition for handguns with deformation effect.
( SR 514.541)

Like in other European countries, as said before ...
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 01:09 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Slingshots! I should certainly hope so?

I wonder how they missed conventional, nonelastic slings and atlatls. Those things are scary in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 01:43 pm
@roger,
Generally forbidden are "Geräte, die dazu bestimmt sind, Menschen zu verletzen" = devices, which are intended to hurt people. Those pics are more or less examples (and it's more specific in the relevant law, too).
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 04:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zYcZKDn2CMM/TTsfwFnYdDI/AAAAAAAAJLE/RLMtdsOzPow/s1600/Nazi-Laugh-In.png


Thank you for posting that brochure
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 04:41 pm
Most of Europe needs this kind of strict restriction because most of Europe has been brutally torturing & killing fellow Europeans for centuries. The advent of modern weaponry only exacerbated the brutality. You Europeans have much more hands on experience with mayhem in your backyards than we Yanks do.

Unlike the European populace, our populace is unbelievably well armed and fairly well trained... if we are somehow forced to fend off enemies that are amongst us it will be like nothing the world has ever seen. United we stand - Divided we fall.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 05:13 pm
@H2O MAN,
Dick Head.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Dec, 2012 05:31 pm
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/21753_568088923208300_1545610270_n.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2012 12:19 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
You Europeans have much more hands on experience with mayhem in your backyards than we Yanks do.

Indeed. When the Swiss got democracy in 1291, it all started with

http://i45.tinypic.com/2f03tl3.jpg
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 3 Dec, 2012 07:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The culture of violence has deep roots.
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