THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

Actually, steve, you wouldn't have 10,000 or so armed students doing anything on campus. Supposing there were that many that didn't have some aversion to firearms, a pistol gets to be an inconvenient thing to drag around all the time, especially concealed. They also limit your physical activities, more than a little.

My only experience with college was two year community college. I didn't carry (wasn't legal at the time + school rules), and don't know anyone who did except for law enforcement people taking classes. I don't recall any serious arguments, and didn't get into or even see a single fight. Still, it's possible that the potential for armed students might be some sort of deterrent. It also might not. It's a tough one to prove.

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Yeah. You can't go one day on this forum without blathering about why you need to be armed to the teeth in every possible circumstance, but Steve needs help. Right on.

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snood wrote:

Yeah. You can't go one day on this forum without blathering about why you need to be armed to the teeth in every possible circumstance, but Steve needs help. Right on.

Show me. Exactly where have I "blathered" about the need to be armed "to the teeth" or otherwise. And not one day? Again, show me. Like two consecutive days.

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Snood
The religion of the armed resistance and/or offensives cannot be dissuaded, no matter what. They will have unrestricted guns, and they will believe it is the only way to live. Sad, but true.

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roger wrote:

snood wrote:
Yeah. You can't go one day on this forum without blathering about why you need to be armed to the teeth in every possible circumstance, but Steve needs help. Right on.

Show me. Exactly where have I "blathered" about the need to be armed "to the teeth" or otherwise. And not one day? Again, show me. Like two consecutive days.

Sorry, Rog - my comment was directed at cj, not you.

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No problem. I should have asked for clarification.

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Wanna borrow some ammo? Laughing

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cjhsa wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:
Try as I may, I cant think of a single argument to support the case for carrying a semi automatic pistol, except that for some immature individuals it makes them feel good.

How about the fact that lots of bad people want to hurt you, rob you, cut off your d--k and kill you, gangrape your girlfriend, then murder her and dump both of your bodies?

You imagine that had they been armed this would not have happened. You dont know that. It might be that he shot all four dead and the family all lived happily ever after. But you dont know. How many jilted lovers get shot because of the easy availablity of firearms? Still you have made your country what it is, not me. The fact that

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lots of bad people want to hurt you, rob you, cut off your d--k and kill you, gangrape your girlfriend, then murder her and dump both of your bodies?

which makes you terrified to go out unless fully armed is your problem. So perhaps you do need to carry a weapon everywhere.

But I notice the family arn't calling for more guns on the street. Interestingly one of the accused is charged with possession of a .22 revolver...you must be outraged at this violation of his sacred right to bear arms.

Anyhow its your problem, you sort it out as you want. Suggest you all buy Mach 10s or Uzis. That should make sure no one gets shot
Rolling Eyes

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Penis envy?

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I still haven't seen anyone come up with a solution to the prevention of the VT tragedy.

The only solution I've seen that's reasonable is to have stricter gun control laws.

Having 10,000 students carry guns is stupid and will create more problems and violence. Having the citizens of Blacksburg carry weapons won't have helped a bit. Even having an armed guard patrolling the halls would have been useless. If Cho knew there was one he would have killed him first. And the fat campus cops hiding behind the trees weren't much help as well.

You have to have and enforce laws that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.

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xingu wrote:

I still haven't seen anyone come up with a solution to the prevention of the VT tragedy.

The only solution I've seen that's reasonable is to have stricter gun control laws.

BULLSHIT.

You have to have and enforce laws that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.

AGAIN, BULLSHIT. Why? BECAUSE THEY ALREADY EXIST.

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Where's my gun - I can't abide an inability to use the quote function.

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xingu wrote:

You have to have and enforce laws that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.

Those laws are already there in sufficient quantity.

There were lots of guns around in America in 1890 and these kinds of things weren't happening. Try asking yourself why, and the one term which will come up will be "lunatic control", and not "gun control". That's right, they used to control lunatics by locking them up. They correctly figured that if somebody was too dangerous to be walking around, he probably shouldn't BE walking around.

Next try asking yourself who all will still have guns after you officially ban them. One part of the answer in today's world will be AlQuaeda and all of its sleeper cells. Nice thought, isn't it?

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Well, I can't fix it now. Rolling Eyes

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cjhsa wrote:

xingu wrote:
I still haven't seen anyone come up with a solution to the prevention of the VT tragedy.

The only solution I've seen that's reasonable is to have stricter gun control laws.

BULLSHIT.

You have to have and enforce laws that will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.

AGAIN, BULLSHIT. Why? BECAUSE THEY ALREADY EXIST.

They do not exist in VA. Crazies like Cho have a legal right to own guns. There was nothing illegal in the manner of Cho acquiring his gun.

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Gungasnake wrote:

Next try asking yourself who all will still have guns after you officially ban them. One part of the answer in today's world will be AlQuaeda and all of its sleeper cells. Nice thought, isn't it?

Really Gungasnake if you want anyone to believe you try to say something intelligent. I remember the old days when people like you used the same argument except it was the Commies who would have all the guns.

That turned out to be a silly and fictitious as the above statement.

I guess tomorrow it will be the Iranians that will have all the guns.

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I will simply be a criminal. A law abiding criminal at that, because laws that don't respect 2A are illegal in their own right.

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Oh, I thought I saw the problem for a bit there. There were laws to keep guns out of the hands of crazies and criminals - so CJ said, so I figured the problem is that our law enforcement agencies and justice system just aren't functioning well.

But now CJ says that such laws are illegal. I'm getting confused. Law abiding criminal don't make head feel good. Is unconstitutional the same as illegal. Is prevention better than cure. Guns aren't illegal, murder is. Cool. Except if you're the dude with a 45 slug in your brain coz some nutter misses his exgirlfriend....

WHy do Australia and Canada have so much less gun crime? I'm sure their criminals have just as much guns as ours...

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