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THE DANGER OF GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES

 
 
blacksmithn
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 11:23 am
"Paranoia strikes deep,
into your heart it will creep..."
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:13 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Here's another way to look at this civilian disarmament program.

The British instituted this stupid bullshit after WW I and then, when WW II broke out, they realized that the British army by itself would have no shot at stopping a massed invasion and that the people had nothing better than cricket bats to try to help out with. As Santino Corleone put it in The Godfather, they have been standing there "with just their dicks in their hands".

And so, the word went out, and Americans were asked to donate every spare firearm to the cause and even expensive hunting rifles went over to England on ships, in huge numbers, and the catastrophic consequence of the stupid law was averted.

And then, more recently, the nazi threat forgotten, the British have gone back to the same stupid bullshit laws.

How stupid can you be? What if AlQuaeda secretely arms the hordes of slammites now living in England and they break bad? There's a couple million of them and they're already living in England, and will have no need to get across the channel. What would a generation of limeys conditioned to be victims do about it?

Your post is VERY well rendered, Gunga; thank u for it.

It is singularly egregious that the very government
that criminalized self defense, or possession of the means thereof,
chose to ARM its " subjects, " ( i.e., those held in subjection )
to preserve the government that oppresses them,
intimidating them away from defending their own lives
or property, but approving of civilian armed defense
of the oppressing government.

It is silently saying that existence of the King 's government,
is more important than the survival of any individual " subject "
or any aggregation thereof; is that a little like asserting the Divine Right of Kings ?

Of course, failure to co-operate
wud mean slavery under national socialism,
which was ALSO a big supporter of victim disarmament.
Hitler was very proud of his Gun Control Act of 1938.

Two nights after that citizen disarmament was executed,
Krystalnacht went forward.
David
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:17 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
"Paranoia strikes deep,
into your heart it will creep..."


It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the Man comes, and take you away.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:53 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
No, the problem is delusional paranoids who feel the frontier society of 17th Century America is somehow equivalent to America of the 21st Century.


People who value our ancient constitutional freedoms are only a problem for freedom-haters. For most Americans we are no problem at all.



blacksmithn wrote:
And who see illusory boogeymen coming to take away their precious guns under every bedpost.


You boogeymen are hardly illusory.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 02:54 pm
Boo
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:00 pm
Hitler was very proud of his Gun Control Act of 1938.

Two nights after that citizen disarmament was executed,
Krystalnacht went forward.

That was also true of the Turks legally disarming the Armenians
before committing genocide upon the disarmed victims.
They 'd have been better off fighting back,
while they still had their guns, than when they were slaughtered,
in their lawful helplessness.
I have seen lists of genocides, preceded by disarmament
of the future victims, but I fail to remember other specifics; ( MY BAD ).
David



P.S.:
Doubtless, the blacksmith
wud insist that the Armenians were really quite well-off,
because of how TRUSTING and how NON-paranoid they were
when they gave over their guns to the Turks before the genocide.

Pretty good chance
that the TURKS agreed also.
Surely this victim disarmament program
saved many Turkish lives.


Now, on the OTHER hand,
u had those naughty,
PARANOID Jews fighting back with illegal guns,
in the Warsaw Ghetto, mostly illegal pistols and revolvers,
and some homemade boms.

Isn 't just A SHAME
how many nationally socialistic SS troops
were illegally killed by this frenzy of paranoia
from January to mid May of 1943 ?

At the very LEAST,
the Jews shud have REGISTERED their guns,
and WAITED for the national socialists
to grant them LICENSES, right blacksmith ?

Some people simply have no patience !

Just such a pity...
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:07 pm
.....and this compares to current day U.S.A. how? Should we guess?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:12 pm
Intrepid wrote:
blacksmithn wrote:
"Paranoia strikes deep,
into your heart it will creep..."


It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the Man comes, and take you away.


That's what the 2'nd ammendment is there for. The "man" can't really do that in the US. He could obviously do that easily enough in England, at least now. For several centuries there after the Magna Carta was signed he couldn't.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:32 pm
Watch as to whether the "man" is wearing a white coat.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:39 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
blacksmithn wrote:
"Paranoia strikes deep,
into your heart it will creep..."


It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the Man comes, and take you away.


That's what the 2'nd ammendment is there for. The "man" can't really do that in the US. He could obviously do that easily enough in England, at least now. For several centuries there after the Magna Carta was signed he couldn't.

Yeah.
In vu of their very recent experience in removing
unwanted government, the Founders had that very clearly in mind:

00/04/17 New York Instrument of Ratification of the Constitution
Record Group 11, The National Archives, Washington, DC

" That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people
whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness ....


That the People have a right to keep and bear Arms;
that a well regulated Militia,
including the body of the People capable of bearing Arms,
is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State;
That the Militia should not be subject to Martial Law, except in time of
War, Rebellion or Insurrection."
THEN: Be it known that We the People of the State of New York, Incorporated in
statehood under the Authority of The Constitution of the United States of America
by the New York Instrument of Ratification, thus are graced by the
full benefits and liberties predicated under that document; or we are made
and held captive under Unlawful Powers to which Under God we cannot, must
not, and do not submit." [ emfasis added by David ]

New York was not the only state
that manifested this spirit.
David
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:48 pm
Actually, it could turn out to be Uncle Osama coming to take the man away, the the English people, disarmed, won't be able to do anything about it other than watch. Again as Santino Corleone would put it, they'll be standing there with just their dicks in their hands, and the shipment of rifles from the US won't get there in time.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 03:50 pm
How does "IRE" or "IRELAND" (Islamic Republic of England) sound? Of course, they'll have to figure out something else to call the present Ireland, but I'm sure they'll come up with something.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 04:21 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Actually, it could turn out to be Uncle Osama coming to take the man away, the the English people, disarmed, won't be able to do anything about it other than watch. Again as Santino Corleone would put it, they'll be standing there with just their dicks in their hands, and the shipment of rifles from the US won't get there in time.

Yeah, I read of how Uncle Osama can get a little ruff.

The Taliban used to FLAY people
for minor religious infractions,
and then bury them alive;
I guess that must STING.

I wonder how much
the anti-gun English wud like that ?

David
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 05:37 pm
gungasnake wrote:
How does "IRE" or "IRELAND" (Islamic Republic of England) sound? Of course, they'll have to figure out something else to call the present Ireland, but I'm sure they'll come up with something.


This pertains to guns in schools, how?
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 06:20 pm
Intrepid wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
How does "IRE" or "IRELAND" (Islamic Republic of England) sound? Of course, they'll have to figure out something else to call the present Ireland, but I'm sure they'll come up with something.


This pertains to guns in schools, how?


Because their raving paranoia knows no international (or topical) boundaries, of course. Laughing

And because they've got to conjure up some kind of dire consequence for England's heresy of strict gun control. Wholly imaginary, but dire nonetheless.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 06:24 pm
http://www.a-human-right.com/taliban.jpg
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 07:41 pm
She doesn't look very happy, holding that big gun.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 07:45 pm
Aside from the Taliban, I can think of at least one other group which would fear a chick like that and that would be psycho serial rapists like SlicKKK KKKlintler. I'll betcha she'd just as soon whack one of those types as look at them.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 07:46 pm
gungasnake wrote:
Aside from the Taliban, I can think of at least one other group which would fear a chick like that and that would be psycho serial rapists like SlicKKK KKKlintler. I'll betcha she'd just as soon whack one of those types as look at them.


Interesting choice of words Mr. Snake. Laughing
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Sun 22 Oct, 2006 08:06 pm
I bet she knows all the words to the Horst Wessel song. Rolling Eyes
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