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Foley Quits Amid Allegations of Email Sex Scandal

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Oct, 2006 11:37 pm
farmerman wrote:
We all know that Democrats are "soft on sin", and that Republicans are just hypocrites


That might be a good summary, but I would hope not all Democrats are "soft on sin" or can I substitute "soft on crime." And hopefully not all Republicans are hypocrites. At least to be a hypocrite you have to present yourself as having some standards of being decent and law abiding before you fail the test of being decent and law abiding. If you don't try to be anything better than a crook and a scumbag, and tell people thats what you are, then I guess you can't be accused of being a hypocrite, but I don't see that as being all that great of a situation.

I think I prefer the people that believe in standards, and run on them. Then when they are caught, they usually confess and resign. This is far better than the people that are scumbags or criminals and jam it in your face and dare you to try to get rid of them. A few examples come to mind, a recent example Jefferson.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:44 am
At last the hypocrite party has been exposed. Those who live by the homophobic creed die by the homophobic creed.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 05:19 am
timberlandko wrote:
Now, now, fm ... be fair; neither Republicans nor Democrats have any special claim to hypocracy - its the very stuff of politics, without which there neither would nor could be politics.


Republicans...the party of rut and bum.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 05:22 am
GOP insiders agree: Hastert cannot survive scandal

Republican insiders and political strategists admit privately that embattled Speaker of the House Dennis J. Hastert cannot survive the rapidly-expanding and increasingly damaging Congressional page scandal.

"There's no doubt about it: Hastert has to go," a GOP political campaign operative said late Wednesday as the House Ethics Committee prepared to meet today to investigate former Repubican Rep. Mark Foley's incredibly bizzare behavior towards young male pages along with Hastert's failure to take action.

Kirk Fordham, chief of staff to National Republican Congressional Committee head Rep. Thomas Reynolds and a former top aide to Foley, resigned Wednesday and told reporters he had warned Hastert's office about Foley's inappropriate behavior three years ago but that the Speaker did nothing.

Like Foley, Fordham is gay, as are a number of top Republican staff members in the House, Senate and national GOP committees. Investigators for the House Ethics Committee want to know if gays in the House conspired to protect Foley.

"We're talking tip of the iceberg here," one House Ethics Committee staffer tells Capitol Hill Blue. "This thing will just keep getting worse."

Committee investigators are also focusing on the actions, or inaction, of Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer who some say may have stonewalled any investigation of Foley.

For Republicans, already struggling to hold on to control of the House and Senate, the scandal could not have come at a worse time. New polls show support for Democrats increasing as problems mount for the GOP.

The Associated Press reports:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/content/2006/10/gop_insiders_ag.html
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 05:39 am
Now it seems to be that his accuser is of age. What will be the d-spin on this?
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 06:05 am
What the dems say is nearly irrelevant now. For the predictable reasons and motives, your party is now eating away at itself. The big surprise is going to be how ugly you land on your own tastebuds.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 06:27 am
cjhsa wrote:
Now it seems to be that his accuser is of age. What will be the d-spin on this?


It means that it's okay to have sex on the job if the people are of age I guess. Hooray!!! Now all you ass holes can shut the f*ck up about Clinton after all these years.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 06:32 am
spin spin spin on the ice
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 06:32 am
You are a bad, bad man, BPB.

But sometimes you're funny as two hells.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:01 am
Oh, I think you hit them hard and low, BPB Laughing
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:04 am
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:04 am
"God don't like ugly" - something, a lot of parents here told children when I was young.

It seems, it's turned very ugly inside the moralistic Republicans' glass house.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:08 am
It's a rather sorry commentary on present American political discourse that this Foley story has trumped coverage of Woodward's book. Tabloid-level stuff.

On the other hand, why look a gift horse in the anus?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:09 am
I'm getting out of D.C. and going to the border to hunt illegals.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:14 am
Too late.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:16 am
I dont see how this guy Thomas Reynolds, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, can stay on the job. "In a New York Post column published Wednesday, conservative insider Robert Novak reported Foley was considering retiring after six terms in Congress because of rumours about his sexual orientation. But Reynolds, already aware of concerns Foley was overly friendly with young male pages, ''talked him into running'' because he held a safe seat for the majority party. Reynolds's chief of staff, Kirk Fordham, stepped down Wednesday after acknowledging he helped counsel Foley on how to handle the scandal." http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=1da90076-1bec-4306-b90e-b80fa209a3ed&k=71824
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:32 am
blatham wrote:
It's a rather sorry commentary on present American political discourse that this Foley story has trumped coverage of Woodward's book. Tabloid-level stuff.

On the other hand, why look a gift horse in the anus?


Yeah, that's the thing I fear about this "all-Foley-all-the-time" national frenzy. Condie's equivocations and the focus on the Iraq debacle are going by the wayside, seemingly almost unnoticed while we handle the "more important" stuff.

(but I am glad the Repubs are taking it in the arse on the Foley thing)
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:38 am
cjhsa wrote:
I'm getting out of D.C. and going to the border to hunt illegals.

Why not just hunt all those illegals in Congress? Washington seems to be a target-rich territory for those.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 07:46 am
blatham wrote:
It's a rather sorry commentary on present American political discourse that this Foley story has trumped coverage of Woodward's book.

... and that Woodward's book is trumping Suskind's. I'll always be grateful to Woodward for Watergate, and to be fair I haven't read his newest book. But generally, I don't like the fake insider pose of his "fly on the wall of the Oval Office" type of reporting. They haven't struck me as terribly credible sources. I prefer books by real insiders such as Suskind, Clarke, and so forth.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 08:04 am
Thomas wrote:
I'll always be grateful to Woodward for Watergate, and to be fair I haven't read his newest book. But generally, I don't like the fake insider pose of his "fly on the wall of the Oval Office" type of reporting. They haven't struck me as terribly credible sources.


Woodward has been described as someone who occasionally comes down from Mount Olympus to make a pronouncement. Smile
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