Bill Clinton Takes On Fox News

okie wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Advocate wrote:
JFK outdid him many times over. He had two women in the typing pool whose main job was taking a daily "swim" with JFK. And then there was the mafia babe and ....

when JFK was there they should have called it comelot

Yes, and does history record one of his women to be a German spy, which should amply demonstrate the logic of having decent people in office that do not compromise 300 million American lives because they care more about themselves than the country that elected them.

Please do prove Inge Arvad (if I spell her correctly) was a german spy.

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okie wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Advocate wrote:
JFK outdid him many times over. He had two women in the typing pool whose main job was taking a daily "swim" with JFK. And then there was the mafia babe and ....

when JFK was there they should have called it comelot

Yes, and does history record one of his women to be a German spy, which should amply demonstrate the logic of having decent people in office that do not compromise 300 million American lives because they care more about themselves than the country that elected them.

oh go wash your panty hose church lady....

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I'm not here to prove it. Who knows for sure. The point is when you cavort in the Whitehouse, you are compromising national security for obvious reasons. If you don't care about national security, then you don't care, but some people do.

I am not a conspiracy guy, but I truly believe there is much more to know about the assassination, Jack Ruby, and all the rest, not to blame Kennedy, but there is much more to all of this than we know that might have something to do with Kennedy's personal life in some way. Who knows? We will probably never know.

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Okie, you really should not distort the situation. He dated the woman when he was a young, single, congressman. And I have not seen proof that she was a spy.

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A true candidate for the 'conspiracy theory forum'....

Cycloptichorn

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Advocate wrote:

Okie, you really should not distort the situation. He dated the woman when he was a young, single, congressman. And I have not seen proof that she was a spy.

I would need to research it again. I don't feel like it frankly. The point is such activity has potential to compromise the country. And the point of it is presidents have a responsibility to us to be responsible. If they can't even be responsible to their wives, what makes you think they care about us? This is so basic. How come you people can't figure it out?

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Clinton was certainly not the first president to stray while in office.

Do you really think they were all unworthy of the office, okie, or just feigning prudishness re Clinton?

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Dartagnan wrote:

Clinton was certainly not the first president to stray while in office.

Do you really think they were all unworthy of the office, okie, or just feigning prudishness re Clinton?

Clinton definitely not the first, but it seems the most blatant and most promiscuous behavior offers the highest risk of compromise to the country. Rumors of a mistress here and there, yes, people have their weaknesses, I can accept that reality but I would hope we can elect people that attempt to have a level of decency. Playboys and alleged rapists, we should hopefully do without.

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It's hard to see why such behavior would be any more compromising to the country than, say, ignoring the written laws of the US and lying to citizens about our actions.

It's also funny that people have such different beliefs about what is important re: sexuality. I, for example, couldn't care less what a president does in this realm. Hell, I think the president should be assigned a mistress or two, just to keep him nice and relaxed.

I mean, where is the harm in it?

Cycloptichorn

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okie wrote:

Advocate wrote:
Okie, you really should not distort the situation. He dated the woman when he was a young, single, congressman. And I have not seen proof that she was a spy.

I would need to research it again. I don't feel like it frankly. The point is such activity has potential to compromise the country. And the point of it is presidents have a responsibility to us to be responsible. If they can't even be responsible to their wives, what makes you think they care about us? This is so basic. How come you people can't figure it out?

There is really not much fun being on top if there is no one underneath.

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okie wrote:

I'm not here to prove it.

I'm just here to cast about wild aspersions, full in keeping with the unconscionable manner of my republican leaders.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

It's hard to see why such behavior would be any more compromising to the country than, say, ignoring the written laws of the US and lying to citizens about our actions.

It's also funny that people have such different beliefs about what is important re: sexuality. I, for example, couldn't care less what a president does in this realm. Hell, I think the president should be assigned a mistress or two, just to keep him nice and relaxed.

I mean, where is the harm in it?

Cycloptichorn

If you have a wife, does she think you should have a mistress or two?

Go ahead you people, laugh at the obvious here, but you only make your own stupidity obvious.

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Some have proposed a debate between Bill and W. It wouldn't be fair, W is lousy in just about any public forum. How about Dick Cheney?

I'd pay to see Dick vs. Bill.

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okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
It's hard to see why such behavior would be any more compromising to the country than, say, ignoring the written laws of the US and lying to citizens about our actions.

It's also funny that people have such different beliefs about what is important re: sexuality. I, for example, couldn't care less what a president does in this realm. Hell, I think the president should be assigned a mistress or two, just to keep him nice and relaxed.

I mean, where is the harm in it?

Cycloptichorn

If you have a wife, does she think you should have a mistress or two?

Go ahead you people, laugh at the obvious here, but you only make your own stupidity obvious.

I can't answer for my wife, b/c I don't have one; but if she was the president of the most powerful nation in the free world, do I think she should have a mister or two? Yes, she probably should. It's a stressful job, after all.

You're confusing personal emotion with logical reasoning. A dangerous mistake. Whether or not I would be happy about such a decision is immaterial, it doesn't change the fact that I still believe it would be a good idea. Because, my personal feelings and situation are not as important as the country as a whole.

Cycloptichorn

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Personal emotion should also be logical shouldn't it? Thats why I use the analogies of if I don't trust someone personally, why should I trust them to be president? I think its a good measure of how we should vote.

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Personal emotion should also be logical shouldn't it?

Hahah, it never, ever, ever is logical. It should be, but it isn't. Irrational feelings of jealousy, anger, etc... even though our higher brain knows that there are good reasons for something, it's often the case that logic cannot be used to convince our lower, more animal brain that it is wrong.

I understand about trust; trust is a different issue than sexual mores. I don't agree with lying or deception either, though I can understand why people do it from time to time. That's why I suggested that we do away with any secrecy or double-talk and just put it out in the open - assign him a couple of mistresses/misters, and do away with all the secrecy.

Cycloptichorn

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OMG, Bush is sleeping with Condi Rice. Don't you think that threatens the US?

I don't have time to research it but I have seen the headlines at the supermarket.

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Bush can't possibly be sleeping with Condi. I know for a fact that if he was, his nose would grow into a penis.

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FreeDuck wrote:

Bush can't possibly be sleeping with Condi. I know for a fact that if he was, his nose would grow into a penis.

Penises come in all shapes and sizes. Maybe his nose is a penis.

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Okie, you remind me of a friend who sanctimoniously informed me that, in contrast to Clinton's people, Bush's are always neat and punctual.

Personally, we all should prefer competency over neatness and punctuality any day. And, in fact, Clinton's people were the former.

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