Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread III

Ticomaya wrote:

I'm trolling on my Treo by the pool on a beautiful day here in Scottsdale. Impossible to be grumpy.

You're just itchin to be #2 on my list, aren't you dys?

JTT wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

McTag wrote:

Walter, aren't you feeling extra-specially grumpy today? :wink:

No. But I hate it if something is said like "ex cathedra". Especially, when exactly the opposite is commonly known and accepted.

Such sounds in my ears as if I was taken for a ride.

English lesson for today, Walter:

The phrase "not all that" does not indicate that which follows is not true.

On the contrary, when Foxy said, it was "not all that Liberal," she was stating it WAS liberal, just not to a degree she finds to be troubling.

Does that trouble you?

Perhaps you could point out the portion of Walter's posting that indicates that he needs an English lesson, Tico.

By what process were you able to ascertain that Walter does not understand the phrase you've chosen to highlight? Could it be your renowned 'read anything I want into any text I read' ability?

Foxfyre wrote:

Doonesbury isn't all that liberal ...

As you said above: "I think it is a good thing to learn at least one new thing each day."

Quote:

Doonesbury is a comic strip by Garry Trudeau, popular in the United States and other parts of the world. Frequently political in nature, Doonesbury's characters profess a range of affiliations, but the cartoon's editorial slant is primarily noted for a liberal outlook.

Source

Quote:

Trudeau satirized politicians from across the political spectrum, but he approached highly charged issues such as the Vietnam War, gay rights, and cigarette smoking from a consistently liberal perspective.

source: "Trudeau, Garry." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2007. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 1 Jan. 2007 <http>.

You're just itchin to be #2 on my list, aren't you dys?

Ticomaya wrote:

You're just itchin to be #2 on my list, aren't you dys?

Yeppers

dyslexia wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

You're just itchin to be #2 on my list, aren't you dys?

Yeppers

I'd hate to miss your snappy repartee ...

I'm going to give you a gift, JTT. I'm going to respond to this post of yours. Cherish it, because it's the only one you'll get during 2007.

Ya keep saying that ya big galoot, then ya keep on answering. Add "disengenuous" to your long list of 'talents' Was this the final straw; is this why you were run out of Kansas?[/b]

Breaking down Walter's post:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

Doonesbury isn't all that liberal ...

As you said above: "I think it is a good thing to learn at least one new thing each day."

Walter appears to be in agreement with this statement, and it's placement in his post indicates he believes he is about to teach Foxy something ... something he believes she is unaware of when she said, "Doonesbury isn't all that liberal ..."

Quote:

Quote:

Doonesbury is a comic strip by Garry Trudeau, popular in the United States and other parts of the world. Frequently political in nature, Doonesbury's characters profess a range of affiliations, but the cartoon's editorial slant is primarily noted for a liberal outlook.

Source

Okay, what do we learn from that passage? The only thing that relates to Foxy's quote is that the Doonesbury cartoon is "primarily noted for a liberal outlook."

Now why would Walter think Foxy would need to know that? Do you suppose he thinks Foxy is unaware that Doonesbury is noted for its liberal outlook? Do you think he understood, "Doonesbury isn't all that liberal ..." to mean"Doonesbury isn't ... liberal ..."? Hmmmm.

Let's continue on ...

Quote:

Quote:

Trudeau satirized politicians from across the political spectrum, but he approached highly charged issues such as the Vietnam War, gay rights, and cigarette smoking from a consistently liberal perspective.

source: "Trudeau, Garry." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2007. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 1 Jan. 2007 <http>.

Okay ... now what is the lesson being "taught" by Lecturer Hinteler here? Clearly he is teaching that Trudeau approached the Doonesbury cartoon "from a consistently liberal perspective." His "teaching" Foxy that in this second passage is consistent with our earlier supposition that Walter has misunderstood Foxy when she said, "Doonesbury isn't all that liberal ...", to mean, "Doonesbury isn't ... liberal ...." Could it be that Walter failed to grasp the nuance the phrase "all that" added to the sentence?

Yes, it could be indeed. The teacher is in need of a lesson, it would appear. Walter has not demonstrated himself unintelligent in these fora, but he has demonstrated the occasional error in communication one might expect from a non-native speaker. (And it is particularly pleasing -- to me -- to see him do this when he is caught up in one of his many condescending attempts to correct Foxy.)

Trudeau himself is left of center, but he generally isn't unfair in his presentation ...

Foxfyre wrote:

Trudeau himself is left of center, but he generally isn't unfair in his presentation ...

I didn't say - perhaps Tico JD., head of the English for non-native speakers department will show me different - thaught something different.

Might well, too, that my understanding of the AE term 'liberal' as 'left' was wrong as well.

After some sleep, I think, I have to thank
- a for the English lesson,
- for the one in comic's history.

I don't know about over there, but 'liberal' (at least in its modern definition) and 'left' are used pretty much synonymously over here. The English lesson wasn't about that, however.

- perhaps Tico JD.,

I think blatham's just cranky after that all-day Photoshop session. Maybe he'll get drunk tonight and feel better tomorrow afternoon.


But he'll probably still think I can't comment on someone's lack of personal social manners because I post Ann Coulter articles on A2K and support the Iraq War.

Happy New Year, you curmudgeony ole bad guys!