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Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread III

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:22 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McTag wrote:
Walter, aren't you feeling extra-specially grumpy today? :wink:


No. But I hate it if something is said like "ex cathedra". Especially, when exactly the opposite is commonly known and accepted.

Such sounds in my ears as if I was taken for a ride.


English lesson for today, Walter:

The phrase "not all that" does not indicate that which follows is not true.

On the contrary, when Foxy said, it was "not all that Liberal," she was stating it WAS liberal, just not to a degree she finds to be troubling.

Does that trouble you?


Thank you Tico. That is precisely what I was saying. Trudeau even has characters speaking conservative points of view--usually to be able to attack them, but they still are useful as illustration. And I have not found Trudeau to be the hypocritical kind of liberal that makes me gnash my teeth.

His main contribution is probably to inspire others give us Calvin & Hobbes and Mallard Fillmore and a couple of other strips that present a more conservative point of view, though it can be argued that it may not be a completely positive thing if the Sunday funnies becomes another political battleground.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:24 pm
McTag wrote:
Tico does that. Annoying, isn't it?


Tico does what, exactly?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:25 pm
McTag wrote:
Just wondering (not sure, but that doesn't sound like Trudeau) - wasn't "Brown Sugar" a nickname GWB had for Condi Rice at one time?


Re the President's nickname for Condi, I don't think so (I'm not positive) but I do know Trudeau came under some pretty heavy criticism when he had the President calling Condi "Brown Sugar".
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:27 pm
It's only comparatively recently that cartoons are thought of as "funnies", I think.

And cartoons have been used to make political points at least since the 17th Century....probably since Roman times.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:28 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Tico does that. Annoying, isn't it?


Tico does what, exactly?


Annoy me.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:29 pm
McTag wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Tico does that. Annoying, isn't it?


Tico does what, exactly?


Annoy me.


Now THAT WAS Grumpy !
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:29 pm
McTag wrote:
It's only comparatively recently that cartoons are thought of as "funnies", I think.

And cartoons have been used to make political points at least since the 17th Century....probably since Roman times.


No argument. But I have lived probably a far sight longer than you have, and in America the comics in the Sunday paper have been called "the comics" or "the Sunday funnies" whether or not they are humorous (many are not.) That's why they call them the "funny papers".

These strips are not to be confused with the political cartoons on the editorial pages that are a wholly different thing.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:34 pm
McTag wrote:
Foxy, isn't that a Doonesbury drawing as avatar? For shame, I would have thought you would eschew such liberal frivolity. :wink:

Lacey Davenport, the particular figure in Foxfyre's new Avatar, was actually a Republican. She was very sympathetic personality, vehemently opposed to the recently sacked Republican junta when it first took over Congress in 1994. It's a pity that Lacey has passed away in the meantime. I liked her a lot.

For more information, see Wikipedia's page about her.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:36 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
McTag wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Tico does that. Annoying, isn't it?


Tico does what, exactly?


Annoy me.


Now THAT WAS Grumpy !


Yeah, and after Tico jumped on me for calling McTag a "grump" too. Smile
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:36 pm
I think you are only partly correct Foxy. "Pogo", a long since discontinued strip was quite political, although it was done with some subtlty and a recognition of the universality of human foolishness. "We have met the enemy and he is us" , was a Pogoism. "Li'l Abner" was also more than a bit political in its way, as were some of the other "oldies".
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:38 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
McTag wrote:
It's only comparatively recently that cartoons are thought of as "funnies", I think.

And cartoons have been used to make political points at least since the 17th Century....probably since Roman times.


No argument. But I have lived probably a far sight longer than you have, and in America the comics in the Sunday paper have been called "the comics" or "the Sunday funnies" whether or not they are humorous (many are not.) That's why they call them the "funny papers".

These strips are not to be confused with the political cartoons on the editorial pages that are a wholly different thing.


The Leonardo Cartoon is not funny at all- at least, I don't get it. :wink:
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:38 pm
Thomas wrote:
McTag wrote:
Foxy, isn't that a Doonesbury drawing as avatar? For shame, I would have thought you would eschew such liberal frivolity. :wink:

Lacey Davenport, the particular figure in Foxfyre's new Avatar, was actually a Republican. She was very sympathetic personality, vehemently opposed to the recently sacked Republican junta when it first took over Congress in 1994. It's a pity that Lacey has passed away in the meantime. I liked her a lot.

For more information, see Wikipedia's page about her.


In other words, a fiscal conservative and social liberal or Libertarian. Smile
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:47 pm
McTag wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Tico does that. Annoying, isn't it?


Tico does what, exactly?


Annoy me.


Ahh ...


... good. Cool

(Sunglasses emoticon used to indicate lack of grumpiness.)
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:51 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
I think you are only partly correct Foxy. "Pogo", a long since discontinued strip was quite political, although it was done with some subtlty and a recognition of the universality of human foolishness. "We have met the enemy and he is us" , was a Pogoism. "Li'l Abner" was also more than a bit political in its way, as were some of the other "oldies".


Oh I don't deny that. I was both a Dogpatch fan and a Pogo fan and don't forget Peanuts too which has its own subtleties. But your critcism is well taken. I didn't state my point clearlyl which I meant to say that I would prefer the comics to remain more entertainment than become a blatant political battleground as we already have the political cartoons for that.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:51 pm
I'm A2King on my Treo by the pool on a beautiful day here in Scottsdale. Impossible to be grumpy. Very Happy
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:56 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I'm A2King on my Treo by the pool on a beautiful day here in Scottsdale. Impossible to be grumpy. Very Happy


Are you fully moved or still in transition, Tico?
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 04:56 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McTag wrote:
Walter, aren't you feeling extra-specially grumpy today? :wink:


No. But I hate it if something is said like "ex cathedra". Especially, when exactly the opposite is commonly known and accepted.

Such sounds in my ears as if I was taken for a ride.


English lesson for today, Walter:

The phrase "not all that" does not indicate that which follows is not true.

On the contrary, when Foxy said, it was "not all that Liberal," she was stating it WAS liberal, just not to a degree she finds to be troubling.

Does that trouble you?


Perhaps you could point out the portion of Walter's posting that indicates that he needs an English lesson, Tico.

By what process were you able to ascertain that Walter does not understand the phrase you've chosen to highlight? Could it be your renowned 'read anything I want into any text I read' ability?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 05:28 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
I'm A2King on my Treo by the pool on a beautiful day here in Scottsdale. Impossible to be grumpy. Very Happy


Are you fully moved or still in transition, Tico?


Transition still, Foxy.

(Oh, and please try not to quote that certain troll that posted right before me. That makes his words visible to me, and I don't see any good reason for that to ever happen.)
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 06:06 pm
JTT wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McTag wrote:
Walter, aren't you feeling extra-specially grumpy today? :wink:


No. But I hate it if something is said like "ex cathedra". Especially, when exactly the opposite is commonly known and accepted.

Such sounds in my ears as if I was taken for a ride.


English lesson for today, Walter:

The phrase "not all that" does not indicate that which follows is not true.

On the contrary, when Foxy said, it was "not all that Liberal," she was stating it WAS liberal, just not to a degree she finds to be troubling.

Does that trouble you?


Perhaps you could point out the portion of Walter's posting that indicates that he needs an English lesson, Tico.

By what process were you able to ascertain that Walter does not understand the phrase you've chosen to highlight? Could it be your renowned 'read anything I want into any text I read' ability?
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 07:48 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
I'm trolling on my Treo by the pool on a beautiful day here in Scottsdale. Impossible to be grumpy. Very Happy
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