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Anyone Catch Survivor: Cook Islands Last Night?

 
 
Tico
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 07:14 am
The Curse of the Car remains intact. Ozzie won the car by popular vote, which wasn't announced until the latter half of the reunion show. So even though it wasn't won during a challenge, still he won the car and lost the $1M.

Other revelations? How about a little romance between Nate and Parvati? Or that Adam sold his vote to Yul for the chance to stay for one more challenge, the one that he came inches from winning (which would probably sent Ozzie home). Or that Billy gracefully allowed that he was guilty of foot-in-mouth, regarding Candice.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 08:29 am
Well, I have to say that Yul deserved to win, IMO, but that I was a little disappointed that Ozzy might not be able to continue his education as he indicated he wanted to do. Maybe with the car and whatever he gets for coming in second, if anything, he'll be able to do that.

No girl for Billy? Wow, hard to believe [snicker].

As for Adam, I vacillated between believing he was just another dumb jock type or that he was more clever than he appeared. Maybe he was the latter, but he still wasn't good enough.

All in all, I have to say this was for me one of the best Survivor seasons ever.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 09:06 am
blacksmithn wrote:
Maybe with the car and whatever he gets for coming in second, if anything, he'll be able to do that.


One thing I found out several seasons ago but isn't publicized is that the second-place finisher gets a really hefty chunk of change. "Playing for second" is perfectly sound strategy, in terms of the money.

I made it through the whole season without watching! Yay! (Of course it WOULD have to be the "best season ever." Phooey.)
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:02 pm
Roberta wrote:
Yup, Yul!! I would have been happy with either Yul or Ozzie. Ozzie is an amazing competitor. Amazing!

The three people in the final turned out to be irrelevant. Becky was not a factor at all. Maybe with another group, but with two such dominant players as Yul and Ozzie, she didn't stand a chance.



Actually I think having three did have an impact. If they had it down to two - Yul would not be able to play the immunity idol and he could have possibly been not in the final two. Ozzie win as he has been - who would he vote out Yul or Becky?
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Roberta
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:03 pm
You're right, Linkat. A final three instead of a final two may well have kept Yul in the game. But certainly in terms of final votes, Becky wasn't a factor.

I think a number of people win a bit of money--not just first and second. Don't know how many people or how much. Not even sure if that's true.
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Tico
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 05:22 pm
The first person to be voted out get $2500 according to the official website (not bad for 3 days work) and a month long vacation at the local hotel that Survivor either rents or builds, as required, for cast and crew. It's also fondly dubbed "Loser's Camp" by the players. There is a sliding scale up from that. Ozzie would get, I believe, about $100,000 which, even after IRS gets whatever, should be enough for a decent education, no? Plus the car.
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 02:48 am
The next season of Survivor looks SOOOOOOOOOOOO good!
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 01:11 pm
Did anyone else find the tie breaker hilarious? After an hour, they switched to matches... and they STILL almost couldn't build a fire....
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 01:55 pm
Pathetic actually. I always am flabbergasted that so many people go on survivor and not learn how to build a fire. If I was chosen that is the first I would do -learn how to make a fire.

I felt much better about Becky wanting to earn her spot rather than take the easier route with the idol until it took two hours to build a fire (even with matches they had difficulty). After that how could anyone vote for her.

No thing I did notice was how hot Ozzie was - once he wasn't out in the wild. I think he will do alright - he'll have enough money to pay for school and he is very bright. Although I would have preferred him to win, I am not upset up Yul another well deserving member.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 02:20 pm
It seems to me that, were I selected to go on the show, the first thing I'd do is take a course in outdoor survival. Or at the very least read some books on the subject. Yet nobody-- or very few anyway-- ever seems to do that. Every season we get this picture of people getting skinnier and skinnier, literally starving in the midst of plenty, because they're too ignorant in the ways of living off the land.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 02:38 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
It seems to me that, were I selected to go on the show, the first thing I'd do is take a course in outdoor survival. Or at the very least read some books on the subject. Yet nobody-- or very few anyway-- ever seems to do that. Every season we get this picture of people getting skinnier and skinnier, literally starving in the midst of plenty, because they're too ignorant in the ways of living off the land.


They must purposely pick the majority that are obviously inept. Then choose a few really good ones - like Ozzie.

I once read the many games shows like Wheel of Fortune purposely pick people that cannot guess the puzzle quicker than the average person. That way, everyone at home feels superior than this idiot contestants. Wonder if they do the same for survivor.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 02:57 pm
It wouldn't surprise me. I mean, c'mon, what are the odds. Two women who can't make fire with MATCHES, for heaven's sake!
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 05:50 pm
Linkat wrote:
Pathetic actually. I always am flabbergasted that so many people go on survivor and not learn how to build a fire. If I was chosen that is the first I would do -learn how to make a fire.


The problem is you are only given 24 hours notice to pack your stuff and get on the plane. Thousands of people apply and they don't contact you until the day before take off that you have been selected, nor do you know where you will be going until you are almost there. They deliberately do this to keep people unprepared. I know someone who once applied and they emphasized that you will have to walk away from your job and family with very little notice.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 07:57 pm
As soon as I applied to be on the show, I would:

start re-learning how to tie all those knots I learned in BSA and USAF,
and recall how to make (and properly orient) a shelter,

{Remember when Rufus had them DIG a shelter and it filled with water as soon as it rained?}. Rolling Eyes

Making fire from flint and steel is learned craft, so is making it from two hardwood sticks (see Tom make fire in Castaway) Learn that too.

(the trick is then to offer these skills to your group without becoming the leader [kiss of death number one]

Something else:
I'd practice wriggling, climbing, bending, throwing things (spears, balls etc) and ... UN-tying knots.

And one last thing:

I'd set up a stepstool on a piece of foam rubber, then I practice balancing on it for a minimun of two hours.

And i'd spend a lot of time running across 2x4s. (Another balance skill)
and swim swim swim swim swim swim swim swim swim

Joe(i'd lose forty more pounds too)Nation
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Tue 19 Dec, 2006 11:24 pm
Well, there are prepared people like you... Very Happy

then people like myself! I consider myself a VERY prepared person, but wouldn't see the need to "prepare" until I got selected. What a waste to read up on stuff if you're never picked. Kind of like the lottery. Many people turn in videos, but they don't really think they'll get picked! Laughing

However, when I am imagining what it would be like if I got picked to play... I have definitely pictured myself studying up on stuff once I found out, even if it's just on the plane to where I have to go get interviewed.

IMO, you don't have to know how to do that sort of stuff, esp. if you're a woman. You will either learn (not in their case but the case many times in the past), just smile and look pretty while someone else does it, or just not need to know.

They made it to the final four, so I think they did pretty good for not knowing! I guess it depends on the role/part you plan to use to win. Some people may need to know how to do many things to win, while others have used the lazy tactic to win.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2006 05:56 am
They, Becky and Sondra, both knew how to gut a fish or learned how in a hurry.

Joe(the cutie smilie one never did)Nation
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2006 08:08 am
Joahaeyo wrote:

However, when I am imagining what it would be like if I got picked to play... I have definitely pictured myself studying up on stuff once I found out, even if it's just on the plane to where I have to go get interviewed.


If you've never made fire using flint or friction you can't learn it from a book. It's one of those things you need to get into your muscle memory. Gutting a fish is fairly easy, most people just have to get over their fear of innards.

Joahaeyo wrote:

IMO, you don't have to know how to do that sort of stuff, esp. if you're a woman. You will either learn (not in their case but the case many times in the past), just smile and look pretty while someone else does it, or just not need to know.


I can't agree here. I don't think any of the "pretty girls" have ever won. They usually get picked off when every one gets tired of them being parasites.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2006 08:11 am
Jenna whatsername (the "Survivor Live" co-host and Ethan snuggler who was in the season with the Deaf contestant).

I agree that the "smile and look pretty" stuff usually tends to get old quick on Survivor, though.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2006 08:24 am
Well, there goes MY Survivor strategy out the window!
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2006 12:47 pm
Green Witch wrote:
Linkat wrote:
Pathetic actually. I always am flabbergasted that so many people go on survivor and not learn how to build a fire. If I was chosen that is the first I would do -learn how to make a fire.


The problem is you are only given 24 hours notice to pack your stuff and get on the plane. Thousands of people apply and they don't contact you until the day before take off that you have been selected, nor do you know where you will be going until you are almost there. They deliberately do this to keep people unprepared. I know someone who once applied and they emphasized that you will have to walk away from your job and family with very little notice.


That is true, but you do know if you are one of the finalist - I would prepare just in case, but perhaps I am just the type is gets too prepared.
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