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Let's discuss Ascension, SyFy's original miniseries. (Spoilers!)

 
 
DrewDad
 
Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2014 11:37 am
Haven't found a good place to discuss the good, bad, and the anachronistic, so please join me here if you want to discuss.

For those of you who haven't seen the show, it starts off as Mad Men in Space. The premise is that the US secretly launched a generation ship back in 1963, which is now 51 years into its voyage to Proxima Centauri. The plot develops from there.

Spoilers from here on in.... you've been warned.






















































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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2014 12:09 pm
@DrewDad,
Now, then...

First, I enjoyed initial premise, even though it was obvious that more was going on. Why are these folks walking around in a gravity field, be it real or artificial? Gravity plating? Naw. Acceleration? At one G? For 51 years?

Let's see....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_travel
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Constant acceleration
See also: Space travel using constant acceleration

Regardless of how it is achieved, if a propulsion system can produce 1 g of acceleration continuously from departure to destination, then this will be the fastest method of travel. If the propulsion system drives the ship faster and faster for the first half of the journey, then turns around and brakes the craft so that it arrives at the destination at a standstill, this is a constant acceleration journey. This would also have the advantage of producing constant gravity. This is, however, largely unfeasible with current technology because of the difficulty in maintaining acceleration the closer one gets to the speed of light. This is illustrated by the definition of force: F=dp/dt. This is also a part of Newton's second law of motion.[29]

From the planetary observer perspective the ship will appear to steadily accelerate but more slowly as it approaches the speed of light. The ship will be close to the speed of light after about a year of accelerating and remain at that speed until it brakes for the end of the journey.


So obviously something else is happening....

Spoiler, then...

The ship never left Earth. It's a big simulation rig, and the "crew" has been living a lie.

Cool concept... but I just don't buy that they could have pulled it off.

Do we really believe that the crew doesn't understand basic physics? That they don't know they should already be at their destination?

Do we really believe that they could fake a launch, in 1963, so convincingly that the crew wouldn't figure it out?

How could they have faked the view of Earth from the space ship? In color? In 1963?




Then there are the anachronisms.

One of the cool things on the show is the retro styling. The use of magnetic tape on big spools in the control room. Big clunky switches. Raising pigs for protein.

But then we're to believe that a crew of 600 invented MRI? (Because that the explanation of how the experiment is funded... spin off technology, including MRI.)

Memory cards? That play on black and white cathode ray tube displays?

They repeatedly use the word "upload" when the first recorded use of the word is in 1980?

Gah.



Then we learn there's a man on the inside!

Then we learn about the witch child!



Then I lose interest....
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 20 Dec, 2014 01:47 pm
@DrewDad,
It looked like trash in the previews so I haven't tried it. Is it any good?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sun 21 Dec, 2014 11:06 am
@rosborne979,
Well, I watched the whole thing. It was like a decent B movie. Acting is a little uneven, but enough character conflict and story lines to keep it moving along.

I don't think I'll be interested enough to watch if it gets picked up as a series, though. That's clearly the intent.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 21 Dec, 2014 11:12 am
@DrewDad,
I wish that Hollywood would quit making SciFi movies and TV shows that focus on human drama instead of some aspect of the SciFi. To me that's the biggest weakness in all of these shows. I can get human drama anywhere and in every flavor, but it's the drama of scientific discovery and exploration that I want in my SciFi. I feel like there is a pattern in mainstream SciFi in which the producers think they can take normal soap opera situations and simply place them on a space station and call it SciFi, when to me, it's not. Anyway, that's just my take on most of the shows I see.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 22 Dec, 2014 11:28 am
@rosborne979,
Most SciFi today is actually fantasy, with a few exceptions such as Gravity.
Carpetbagger
 
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Reply Sun 27 Oct, 2024 09:21 pm
@rosborne979,
Well Rosborne some people say that Dragon's mouth is here PERMANENT. It's like what do we write Roman Numerals for?? Are we in ancient rome? And like nine out of ten of these Science Fiction shows lambast us with Rome as some kind of theme or like an anchor or something, for an advanced civilization that (most of the time, in the more entertaining scenarios at least) have light travel (Star Trek calls it warp, for some warped reason.. Confused ) But yeah. Rome. I mean yeah, you can burn a candle at both ends if the candle is long enough. Yeah and you can also misshape symbols that you see in cave art to look like hooks and pitchforks.
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 27 Oct, 2024 11:40 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Most SciFi today is actually fantasy, with a few exceptions such as Gravity.

Agree. A notable exception is one by John Sandford. Especially interesting as Sandford normally does crime stories.
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