WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

mysteryman wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:
It is all simple to understand.

Conservatives only care about babies before they are born, Liberals care about babies after they are born.

Then why arent liberals adopting every child in state care,orphanages,and otherwise neglevted?

If what you say is true,why are there children in darfur starving to death and why does any child on the planet die of disease?

Shouldnt the liberals have already stopped all of that,with as much money as they hae thrown at the problems?

Are you somehow forgetting who holds the purse stings in the US.
And besides that the president hasn't labeled that government as a member of the "Axis of Evil" Evil or Very Mad

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mysteryman wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:
It is all simple to understand.

Conservatives only care about babies before they are born, Liberals care about babies after they are born.

Then why arent liberals adopting every child in state care,orphanages,and otherwise neglevted?

If what you say is true,why are there children in darfur starving to death and why does any child on the planet die of disease?

Shouldnt the liberals have already stopped all of that,with as much money as they hae thrown at the problems?

We are doing that and more... and we are having some success (although no one is perfect).

First We are fighting to end predjudice that keep good potential parents from being chosen as adoptive or foster parents. It is absolutely insance to keep good prospective parents from adopting kids because of sexual predjudices. Many conservatives prefer keeping kids in orphanages to providing equal rights.

We are also working very hard to provide good sex education to children in the US (and some abroad) that provides information on family planning and human rights. Good sex education has been shown to decrease teenage pregnancy and even abortion rates.

We are trying to keep easy healthcare available to children of immigrants including pre-natal care.

We are also trying to provide effective birth control information to all women (and men) that effectively reduces unwanted pregnancies and STD's.

The money that we are "throwing" at childrens help is very effective. It is not only reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, it is also reducing infant mortality and increasing the well being of children.

I will stand proudly behind this.

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au1929 wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
It is all simple to understand.

Conservatives only care about babies before they are born, Liberals care about babies after they are born.

Then why arent liberals adopting every child in state care,orphanages,and otherwise neglevted?

If what you say is true,why are there children in darfur starving to death and why does any child on the planet die of disease?

Shouldnt the liberals have already stopped all of that,with as much money as they hae thrown at the problems?

Are you somehow forgetting who holds the purse stings in the US.
And besides that the president hasn't labeled that government as a member of the "Axis of Evil"

So you are saying that only govt money can do any good?
Why arent the liberals using their own money instead of wanting to use my money?

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I think a careful analysis of conservative policies would show that conservatives are every bit as concerned about people as are the liberals and, overall, their policies for dealing with human problems have been far less destructive.

Pro life conservatives (some are pro choice) believe that people who choose to risk pregnancy should be willing to see that their offspring are provided with their needs, are loved, and are provided opportunity to succeed in life. They don't believe the innocent should be killed for selfish reasons.

The most radical liberals don't care whether the adult was irresponsible or negligent but give the adult all the power and are okay with condemning the innocent unborn to death at any time, any place, for any reason.

Pro death penalty conservatives (some are against the death penalty) believe that breaking the law should have consequences with the ultimate consequence being the death penalty. As it is those guilty of the most terrible crimes against humanity who would qualify for the ultimate penalty, to fail to apply it punishes the victims (the innocent) all over again.

The most radical liberals don't care how much the innocent victim has to be concerned about the truly evil person remaining in the world or being forced to support that person for the rest of his/her natural life.

Summary: Many, maybe most, liberals will condemn the innocent while protecting the guilty.

Most or at least many conservatives support protecting the innocent and holding the guilty accountable for the choices they make.

I would rather have conservatives in charge of the laws that we will live under. And that's why what a politician stands for and/or their track record should be considered when we vote.

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I wonder why Iraq isn't safe and free from terrorists with all the money that has been thrown at it...

Can you give us a reason MM?

Why didn't you use your own money to invade?

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Foxfyre wrote:

I think a careful analysis of conservative policies would show that conservatives are every bit as concerned about people as are the liberals and, overall, their policies for dealing with human problems have been far less destructive.
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Tell that to the Iraqis that have died... We are far less destructive then we would have been if those damn cut and run liberals would have demanded we negotiate with Saddam. Rolling Eyes

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What is clear is that the Republicans here don't want to talk about the topic of this thread - the election.

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What is clear is that the Republicans here don't want to talk about the topic of this thread - the election.

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parados wrote:

I wonder why Iraq isn't safe and free from terrorists with all the money that has been thrown at it...

Because the left gets their panties in a knot any time the military uses its power to fight.
Remember how you and others whined and complained when Fallujah was
leveled?
Allow the military to fight like they can fight and the insurgents will all be destroyed in one month.

Can you give us a reason MM?

Why didn't you use your own money to invade?

Because as a member of the armed forces I went where I was sent by the govt.

But you are trying to change the subjuct,and failing badly.
The argument is that liberals care about others and conservatives dont.
But au claims that it takes govt money to do the job.
So,I used govt money to go to Iraq,so that must be a good thing.

Now,if govt money isnt the answer to helping the worlds needy,and if the liberals all care about the needy and the poor,where are their checks?
Why arent they using their own money,instead of waiting for govt money?

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And it seems to me that a conservative started the thread and the conservatives have been talking about the election and the components that go into it. In my opinion all these factors - abortion, death penalty - the war - etc. etc. etc. will factor into how and why people vote, and will also factor into the post mortems after the election.

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Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.

Abortion and death penalty are not issues this year.

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It's not only about Iraq. It's about Kerry's gaff. Tells us a whole lot about American politics.

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Foxfyre's use of the phrase "post-mortems after the elctions" makes me feel all tingly inside

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mysteryman wrote:

parados wrote:
I wonder why Iraq isn't safe and free from terrorists with all the money that has been thrown at it...

Because the left gets their panties in a knot any time the military uses its power to fight.
Remember how you and others whined and complained when Fallujah was
leveled?
Allow the military to fight like they can fight and the insurgents will all be destroyed in one month.

Can you give us a reason MM?

Why didn't you use your own money to invade?

Because as a member of the armed forces I went where I was sent by the govt.

But you are trying to change the subjuct,and failing badly.
The argument is that liberals care about others and conservatives dont.
But au claims that it takes govt money to do the job.
So,I used govt money to go to Iraq,so that must be a good thing.

Now,if govt money isnt the answer to helping the worlds needy,and if the liberals all care about the needy and the poor,where are their checks?
Why arent they using their own money,instead of waiting for govt money?

Thanks for proving how morally and intellectually bankrupt you really are MM.

You can't argue it is wrong to use government money for one thing but people that support it must use their own money while supporting using government money for another thing that is not completely supported. Unless you are against democracy. Are you against democracy MM?

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foxfire wrote :
"Pro life conservatives (some are pro choice) believe that people who choose to risk pregnancy should be willing to see that their offspring are provided with their needs, are loved, and are provided opportunity to succeed in life. They don't believe the innocent should be killed for selfish reasons. "

do you believe that most of the young girls that become pregnant
" choose to risk pregnancy " ?
many of them had no idea that pregnancy would be result of 'lovemaking" - if that what one wants to call it . many of these girls seem to know very little about their body .

i'm not sure what he solution to teenage and other unwanted pregnancies is , but i believe simply closing the eyes and saying :
"you chose the risk , live with it " , is not a solution .
the number of "children having children" and not knowing how to care for them is pretty appaling imo .
hbg

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parados wrote:

mysteryman wrote:
parados wrote:
I wonder why Iraq isn't safe and free from terrorists with all the money that has been thrown at it...

Because the left gets their panties in a knot any time the military uses its power to fight.
Remember how you and others whined and complained when Fallujah was
leveled?
Allow the military to fight like they can fight and the insurgents will all be destroyed in one month.

Can you give us a reason MM?

Why didn't you use your own money to invade?

Because as a member of the armed forces I went where I was sent by the govt.

But you are trying to change the subjuct,and failing badly.
The argument is that liberals care about others and conservatives dont.
But au claims that it takes govt money to do the job.
So,I used govt money to go to Iraq,so that must be a good thing.

Now,if govt money isnt the answer to helping the worlds needy,and if the liberals all care about the needy and the poor,where are their checks?
Why arent they using their own money,instead of waiting for govt money?

Thanks for proving how morally and intellectually bankrupt you really are MM.

You can't argue it is wrong to use government money for one thing but people that support it must use their own money while supporting using government money for another thing that is not completely supported. Unless you are against democracy. Are you against democracy MM?

I didnt say it was wrong.

I simply said that for the liberals,who claim to care about everyone and everything,to insist on waiting for govt money instead of using their own money shows that they truly dont care.

If they truly did care,they would all use their own money,to the point of bankruptcy,to solve all of the worlds problems.

So tell me,why isnt that happening?

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Spoken by a true moron: If they truly did care,they would all use their own money,to the point of bankruptcy,to solve all of the worlds problems.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Spoken by a true moron: If they truly did care,they would all use their own money,to the point of bankruptcy,to solve all of the worlds problems.

Interesting.
You cant debate the issue,so you decide to just call names instead.

Answer this,why do the liberals want to bankrupt the govt funding giveaway programs and African health programs and sex ed for other nations?

If it truly is that important to them,they would use their own money.

And if you were an honest person,you would admit that.
But,your honesty is in doubt,so if you dont answer its understandable.

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This moron can't help himself: Answer this,why do the liberals want to bankrupt the govt funding giveaway programs and African health programs and sex ed for other nations?

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