WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

Just heard that Charlie Rangel called Cheney a SOB. I approve of that message.

au, thanks for the interesting piece about Republicans turned Democrats. Unfortunately, their positions don't appear to be very different from the rank Republicans. However, the Democratic party is a big tent and is happy to include future winners.

Webb is really a strange cat. He was supporting our actions in Nam long after the war, and long after pretty much everyone else renounced our actions in this little agrarian country. The good thing is that he is very intelligent and may be a good addition to the Senate.

Dobbs: U.S. is best democracy money can buy
POSTED: 8:15 a.m. EST, November 1, 2006
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- We're now less than a week away from our midterm elections, and Republicans and Democrats are down to their final tens of millions of dollars in media buys, their hyperbolic rhetoric all but expended and their candidates all but exhausted.

It's amazing what a mere $2.6 billion can buy in a democracy. That's what the two parties will have spent in their campaigns leading up to these midterm elections, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And most of that money for Democrats and Republicans alike comes from corporate America. So what will be the outcome of this election? The only certainty is that corporate America will get what it's paid for, and that's more of the same.

Whether the Democrats or Republicans take control of the House and Senate, corporate America has just bought a license to outsource more middle-class jobs to cheap foreign labor markets, to continue unabated so-called free trade and the destruction of more manufacturing jobs, and most likely to promote amnesty for the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens living in this country.

So, no, I'm not real excited about what some see as a potentially tectonic shift in political power in the House of Representatives or U.S. Senate.

While the name of the party in charge may change from Republican to Democrat, it's really only a branding issue. And just as my friend James Mtume says, it's still the same bird, just a different wing. And believe me, middle-class America will still be getting the bird.

Neither party at the national or local level is talking about what to do about the education crisis in our public schools. Both parties seem to think a 10-year plan to measure the decline of our schools through the No Child Left Behind law is an adequate response to what is an outright emergency.

Both parties seem happily content to give their multinational corporate masters exactly what they want in the form of so-called free trade, which has cost millions of middle-class Americans their jobs to outsourcing and off-shoring of manufacturing production to cheap overseas labor markets.

And God forbid we should disturb the orthodoxies of both parties that insist that we not secure our borders and ports, despite radical Islamist terrorist threats, the multibillion-dollar illegal drug trade and what is nothing less than an invasion of illegal aliens into this country.

Yes, I said "country." America really is a nation, but you couldn't convince those who lead the Democratic and Republican Parties of that. Both parties now see America as nothing more than an economy, a marketplace, and not a sovereign nation. They don't see you and me as citizens of this great nation; they see us as units of labor, consumers and taxpayers.

Corporate America long ago quit talking about corporate citizenship and corporate responsibility, and with both the Democratic and Republican Parties as its tools, corporate America wants you and me to forget that we are first citizens, and that America is first a nation.

Only 15 percent of eligible voters turned out to cast a ballot in this year's primary elections, according to an American University study. Never before have so few of us bothered to vote in primary elections. And it's no wonder. Our middle class is beginning to get the joke.

Most Americans understand that all the major decisions have already been made. It is now clear to all but those who will not see that both political parties and their corporate masters have placed our middle class in direct competition with the world's cheapest labor, leaving it only a tenuous and failing grip on the American Dream.

Until all of us who care about this great nation and the world's greatest democracy find the energy and commitment to insist on political choice and true representation in Washington, then the very idea of America will remain in peril.

Unfortunately, the choices we'll be permitted to make on November 7 will do little to mitigate that peril.

You must be joking.

Would the dem party allow Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity into their tent,and allow them to voice the same opinions they do now?
The dems have attacked Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller,both of them dems,for agreeing with Bush and not following the party line.
How does that fit into your "big tent"?

MM
Compared to the gerbils of the republican party that march in lockstep they are indeed a big tent. I will admit however, that garbage such as Limbaugh and Hannity would not be welcomed.

And neither is anyone else that disagrees with them.
So,how can they claim to have that "big tent" if there are people they will exclude?

Big tent not all inclusive!!

So,its a private club that only those selected few that agree with and follow the party line are allowed into?

It is a big tent, but not that big. Ugg, Limbaugh and Hannity would fit better in the Nazi party.

No, we just discriminate against people who are an affront to humanity.

There are actually pro-life, anti-immigration, pro-gun candidates for the Dems. For the Republicans? Not so much of that.

Cycloptichorn

PS. Bush and Chaney wouldn't be welcome either :wink: :wink:

Cycloptichorn

So,how do Lieberman and Zell Miller fit into that "affront to humanity" group?

They fit quite well.

Lieberman ran and lost to the better man. Miller was appointed to the Senate and is not running. I think he is now in an asylum.

But the polls have Lieberman up by about 12 points.
So,if Lieberman does win,then you will concede that he is the better man,right?

And your stupid crack about Zell being in an asylum is just plain stupid.

If that happens, maybe we should go best 2 out of 3.

So,you are now saying that the voters dont know what they want and if Lieberman wins it will all be a mistake?

You have very little faith in the voters,dont you?

As an aggregate, I have very little faith in the voters. They are not informed and make no attempt at getting any substantive understanding. In addition, some voters are just plain stupid. Some don't care one way or another.

The wisdom of the people, particularly with it being manipulated by advertising and marketing tactics and sold, outsourced, etc., is an illusion. A sham. An extreme danger.

Well said, Sumac, I agree.