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WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 07:37 pm
mysteryman wrote:
About that bet...

Does "majority of the seats in congress" mean both the house AND senate,or just the house OR senate?


Mysteryman, it depends who said it and when they said it.

I bet $100 that this specific prediction of mine is true: The Republicans will add at least 3 seats in the House and add at least 1 seat in the Senate, because the voters will by election day realize that the psychotic Democrats are a far greater threat to our security than the neurotic Republicans.

If my prediction is proven correct, those who bet otherwise shall donate the amount of their bet to their favorite charity, and post a copy of their receipt showing that in this forum.

If my prediction is proven incorrect, I shall donate the amount of my bet to the Salvation Army, and post a copy of my receipt showing that in this forum.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 08:55 pm
Well, Icann, good on you that you did take the bet. Not so pathetic after all.

And jeez, this must have been the most-discussed bet in board history..
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 09:20 pm
This will be useful for on election night:

Quote:
Election-Night Bellwethers

Special Report: The Battering Ram and the Bulwark
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 09:35 pm
nimh wrote:
Well, Icann, good on you that you did take the bet. Not so pathetic after all.

He didn't bet ungots.

People frequently donate money to the Salvation Army, especially around Christmastime. For all we know, Ican was going to donate that money anyway.

A bet means you are willing do something you are NOT normally willing to do. For instance, I am not normally inclined to give Ican money, nor is he inclined to give me money. So if we agree on a condition-say that after this election, in 2007 the Speaker of the House of Representatives will be a Democrat, then that would be a bet. Not a mere donation to charity that he most likely was going to do anyway.

As it stands right now, Ican hasn't made any bets at all.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 10:01 pm
You're being ungracious..
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 10:08 pm
Not at all.

What Ican is doing is like Jerry Lewis making a bet where if he loses, he agrees to do a Labor Day telethon for Muscular Dystrophy research.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 04:31 am
Lost in all of this Blatham-Ican shuffle is the fact that I took up Ican on his bet as well, right after Blatham did.

I will reiterate and even extend it. I will take up Ican's prediction above re: at least three seats in Congress and at least one seat in Senate to Republicans, with my $100 bet.

If Ican loses, he would hate to send the money to me, so that is what he must do. I will do with it what I chose.

If I lose, I will send the money to him, receipt or copy of check/money order posted here. He can do with it as he choses.

I would be more than willing to send it to a third party, and timber is fine with me.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 04:53 am
If we had a dependable escrow system, I would take that bet in a second. I would even feel a bit guilty about it.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 06:25 am
For what it is worth, I heard yesterday that gamblers were more accurate in predicting election results than polls. I would wager that is particularly apt if you look at gamblers outside the US.

Also noteworthy, in a similar vein of follow the money:


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/28/us/politics/28hedge.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

"An analysis by The New York Times of contributions from Oct. 1 to 18, the latest data available, shows that donations to Republicans from corporate political action committees dropped by 11 percentage points in favor of Democratic candidates, compared with corporate giving from January through September.

Republicans still received 57 percent of contributions, compared with 43 percent for Democrats, but it was the first double-digit October switch since 1994. "A lot will hold their powder for now," said Brian Wolff, deputy executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. "But after the election, we will have a lot of new friends." "

AND


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102801003_3.html?referrer=email

which examines the two responsible for spending money on ads and operatives in the remaining days of the race for congressional seats.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 06:43 am
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 09:26 am
Quote:
After two national elections in which Republicans' sophisticated get-out-the-vote operation helped them triumph over their opponents, Democrats have invested heavily in catching up.


Slow learners? The GOP has never made its GOTV strategies secret (something that's always bothered me a bit), but I really thought that by 2006 the Dems would have figured it out. They haven't and seem to still rely on a hodge podge of GOTV efforts without any centralized organization and control (just look at CA-50 if you are skeptical).

What it all means is that the second week of November will be wonderful (if you're a Republican) but the Dems will still be facing another set of coulda, shoulda, woulda, but didn't conversations.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 10:01 am
If all of you feel like you can trust me,I will volunteer to hold a check from each person involved in the bet.
I will forward all of those checks to whoever wins the bet.
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 11:00 am
If anyone is interested in following an interesting race, watch Maryland.

Steele, the Lieutenant Governor in a Republican administration, and a keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention, as well as ex-head of the Maryland Republican Party, is distancing himself from his own party, let alone Bush. Nowhere on his web does the word Republican appear.

And Tim Russert pulled out a bumper sticker of his that read:
STEELE Democrat.

He was recruited to run by everyone in the Repg party, including a phone call from Cheney.

I smell Rove.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 11:51 am
sumac wrote:
Lost in all of this Blatham-Ican shuffle is the fact that I took up Ican on his bet as well, right after Blatham did.

I will reiterate and even extend it. I will take up Ican's prediction above re: at least three seats in Congress and at least one seat in Senate to Republicans, with my $100 bet.

If Ican loses, he would hate to send the money to me, so that is what he must do. I will do with it what I chose.

I must do what I have promised to do. Nothing more and nothing less.

If I lose, I will send the money to him, receipt or copy of check/money order posted here. He can do with it as he choses.

Do what you will, but I will not accept your $100 and will return it to sender for sender to donate it to sender's favorite charity.

I would be more than willing to send it to a third party, and timber is fine with me.

I am not willing to do that!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 12:05 pm
Vote on or before:

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2006

Be there do that! We're counting on you!


It's your boat too!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 29 Oct, 2006 08:51 pm
Sorry for the cross-post, but I'm gambling that it's interesting enough (with so much speculation going around about who is expecting what in terms of these elections' results):

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What do the experts think?

There are a number of websites that continually assess the current state of the Senate and House races. Each day or week, they update their ratings to reflect what the current state of play is.

(Note: this does not equate with predictions for what the outcome of the race will be in a week's time; it is all about how things look right now.)

So how do these sites rate the balance of seats at the current moment? I made one of those colorful little tables (of course).. might be well useful for you all - for one because it isn't as easy as it should be to retrieve these numbers from the differently formatted ratings pages; and secondly, not unimportantly, to temper some expectations on both sides of A2K ;-).

Note: re the Senate, not one of these eight "asssessors" dares to give a majority to either party. The race for the majority is at the moment a true toss-up. That said, 5 out of 8 give the Republicans a slight edge, while only 1 gives the Democrats an edge.

Note: re the House, even here only one of the eight "assessors" gives the Democrats an actual majority; to all the others, the balance of power is still in the toss-up category. But here, all of them give either a slight or a clear edge to the Democrats.


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8879/assessing2006uscongriict9.gif

You can also go and look up the sites yourself:

- Congressional Quarterly Election Forecast Map
- Rasmussen Reports - Senate balance of power
- Rothenberg Political Report
- Real Clear Politics
- The Cook Political Report
- The Fix (WaPo)
- New York Times 2006 Election Guide
- Pollster.com

The real enthusiasts can compare this table with the one I made a month ago - and see just how much the Democrats have gained since then.
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 04:42 am
Great work, nimh.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 07:18 am
Thanks Sumac..
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 07:40 am
sumac wrote:
Great work, nimh.


ditto!

The one I personally check is The Cook Political Report as they are considered truly non-partisan and very conservative on how they categorize, leaving most incumbents in the toss-up category.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 30 Oct, 2006 07:44 am
I'm glad as well that The Cook Political Report is now online since some years.
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