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WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 08:44 am
Foxfyre wrote:
How many of these people are anti-Bush, anti-GOP, or anti-George Allen people? Is there any verification that they actually exist? Does your Blog source provide that information anywhere?

Uhm, hello - it's true that I did already just denounce this tactic of yours of asking questions that you apparently have no interest in to actually see answered - either out of laziness or because you're just perfectly happy to let the questions remain out there as just as many reasons to shrug some news off - but in this case it is perhaps all too blatant, no? I mean, considering that there is this in the very post you are responding to:

nimh wrote:
Each of the below quotes is linked to its source in the item itself..

So, ergo, yes, they exist; as is shown in the sources that yes, are provided by the blog; and no, most are not "anti-GOP", as you could have found out easily yourself by clicking the friggin' link and checking out the sources given there.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 09:28 am
nimh wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
How many of these people are anti-Bush, anti-GOP, or anti-George Allen people? Is there any verification that they actually exist? Does your Blog source provide that information anywhere?

Uhm, hello - it's true that I did already just denounce this tactic of yours of asking questions that you apparently have no interest in to actually see answered - either out of laziness or because you're just perfectly happy to let the questions remain out there as just as many reasons to shrug some news off - but in this case it is perhaps all too blatant, no? I mean, considering that there is this in the very post you are responding to:

nimh wrote:
Each of the below quotes is linked to its source in the item itself..

So, ergo, yes, they exist; as is shown in the sources that yes, are provided by the blog; and no, most are not "anti-GOP", as you could have found out easily yourself by clicking the friggin' link and checking out the sources given there.


I'll concede that most of the sources may be real people. How do you determine they are not anti-GOP or that the hearsay sources some cite are real people?

Frankly, I find their testimony to be highly suspect based on far more credible witnesses who are saying it just ain't so. I smell another Salon orchestrated smear campaign which would not be the first time they had grossly misrepresented somebody they wanted to take down.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 09:33 am
Foxfyre wrote:
nimh wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
How many of these people are anti-Bush, anti-GOP, or anti-George Allen people? Is there any verification that they actually exist? Does your Blog source provide that information anywhere?

Uhm, hello - it's true that I did already just denounce this tactic of yours of asking questions that you apparently have no interest in to actually see answered - either out of laziness or because you're just perfectly happy to let the questions remain out there as just as many reasons to shrug some news off - but in this case it is perhaps all too blatant, no? I mean, considering that there is this in the very post you are responding to:

nimh wrote:
Each of the below quotes is linked to its source in the item itself..

So, ergo, yes, they exist; as is shown in the sources that yes, are provided by the blog; and no, most are not "anti-GOP", as you could have found out easily yourself by clicking the friggin' link and checking out the sources given there.


I'll concede that most of the sources may be real people. How do you determine they are not anti-GOP or that the hearsay sources some cite are real people?

Frankly, I find their testimony to be highly suspect based on far more credible witnesses who are saying it just ain't so.


Who needs logic, when you have belief(tm)!

And, there's nothing wrong with being anti-GOP. It doesn't make one less trustworthy in the slightest.

Cycloptichorn
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 09:52 am
Foxfyre wrote:
nimh wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
How many of these people are anti-Bush, anti-GOP, or anti-George Allen people? Is there any verification that they actually exist? Does your Blog source provide that information anywhere?

Uhm, hello - it's true that I did already just denounce this tactic of yours of asking questions that you apparently have no interest in to actually see answered - either out of laziness or because you're just perfectly happy to let the questions remain out there as just as many reasons to shrug some news off - but in this case it is perhaps all too blatant, no? I mean, considering that there is this in the very post you are responding to:

nimh wrote:
Each of the below quotes is linked to its source in the item itself..

So, ergo, yes, they exist; as is shown in the sources that yes, are provided by the blog; and no, most are not "anti-GOP", as you could have found out easily yourself by clicking the friggin' link and checking out the sources given there.


I'll concede that most of the sources may be real people. How do you determine they are not anti-GOP or that the hearsay sources some cite are real people?

Frankly, I find their testimony to be highly suspect based on far more credible witnesses who are saying it just ain't so. I smell another Salon orchestrated smear campaign which would not be the first time they had grossly misrepresented somebody they wanted to take down.


Cyclop posted before I could add an edit.

I do not for a minute believe any Southern boy age 50 or older has never heard or used the 'n' word. But I can believe that he can be telling it like it is when he says it was not part of his vocabulary and it is 'not who he is'. That is true of most of us who were born and raised in the south amidst a mixed culture of segregationists and those who opposed segregation; those who were taught from birth that black people were inferior and those who knew better. Did I ever use the 'n' word? Probably, but I can honestly say I cannot remember a time when I did. Did I ever think it when accosted or confronted by a belligerant, stupid, disagreeable black person? Of course I did. My black firends could say it, but I couldn't.

But since that time I have been heavily involved in organizations dedicated to eliminating racism, sexism, and all the other bad 'isms. My kids had never heard another human say the 'n' word until they spent some time with Texas cousins in their middle school years. (They were horrified.) But those same cousins who talked that way then no longer talk that way.

We have all evolved, grown, learned, changed our perspectives on things, and become hopefully better than we once were. To judge somebody on what they were in college or as a young adult is both dishonest and destructive. All of us should be judged on our ovreall track record and who we are now.

And I think that's what we should shoot for.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 10:00 am
I'm enjoying my way-back vote on this poll more and more every day.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 10:02 am
Foxfyre wrote:
I'll concede that most of the sources may be real people. How do you determine they are not anti-GOP or that the hearsay sources some cite are real people?


Did you follow the links yet?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 11:13 am
nimh - some fun for you

a visual results calculator
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 04:17 pm
[quote[To judge somebody on what they were in college or as a young adult is both dishonest and destructive. All of us should be judged on our ovreall track record and who we are now.[/quote]

So those of us who think that George Allen represents a sinister bigoted ideology right now are OK then? In my judgement he has changed little since college but his vocabulary.

Judging him on his track record doesn't change my opinion of him one bit.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 05:06 pm
Foxfyre:

Quote:
But since that time I have been heavily involved in organizations dedicated to eliminating racism, sexism, and all the other bad 'isms.


May I ask - of what organizations do you speak?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 05:30 pm
I think Foxfyre is saying she is a member of NOW, The National Council of La Raza and the NAACP.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 05:58 pm
snood wrote:
Foxfyre:

Quote:
But since that time I have been heavily involved in organizations dedicated to eliminating racism, sexism, and all the other bad 'isms.


May I ask - of what organizations do you speak?


Why do you ask?
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:12 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
snood wrote:
Foxfyre:

Quote:
But since that time I have been heavily involved in organizations dedicated to eliminating racism, sexism, and all the other bad 'isms.


May I ask - of what organizations do you speak?


Why do you ask?


Just curious. Is there a problem talking about them by name?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:14 pm
I've posted them at different times on different threads, or at least most of them, Snood. If anybody is really interested I have no problem naming them at all. I PMed you a list however.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:20 pm
It's weird to me that you chose to PM what you did, but in case anyone is wondering, it ain't the ACLU, NAACP, B'Nai B'rith, GLAAD, or ADL.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:21 pm
I PMed you because PMs are private. You apparently see that differently than I do too.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:38 pm
Don't PM me. I don't PM anyone anymore, haven't for months, and I don't want any from anyone.

Besides, the subject matter surely didn't call for any secrecy - it sure makes your claim to being a stalwart soldier for racial equality look suspect.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:42 pm
Don't worry. I certainly will not PM you again.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:46 pm
I bet Foxfyre is talking about the Center for Individual Freedom.

If I am right...

What a crock!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:53 pm
Nope. At some point or other I think I've named most of the groups I've been part of including one or two I didn't PM to Snood. And that group is certainly not one of them.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Oct, 2006 06:57 pm
I sm pretty sure you wouldn't have anything to do with the Southern Poverty law center... right Foxfyre? (that would really throw me for a loop).
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