Trinity?

Re: TRINITY

KnowJah wrote:

real life wrote:
KnowJah wrote:
kate4christ03 wrote:
THE WORD TRINITY IS NEVER WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE, BUT FOR THAT MATTER NEITHER IS THE WORD BIBLE IN THE BIBLE.

Except 'Scriptures' and 'Word of God' is just another word for bible/ The reasons we call it "bible" is because that is the name of ALL the books as a whole. However there isnt another word for trinity in the bible.
Synynoms: leash, ternion, threesome, trey, triad, triangle, trilogy, trine, trinity, triple, triplet, triplicate, triptych, triumvirate, triune, troika

None of those are in the bible.

The Bible teaches that the Father is God.
The Bible teaches that Jesus is God.
The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is God.
The Bible teaches that there is only One True God.

Why argue over the label instead of the substance?

I'm merely stating that just because the bible doesnt have the word bible in it it doesnt mean the same for other words.

And just stating it over and over that the bible proves the trinity is no proof. Why dont you actualy use scriptures?

Neo posted a link on the second page of this thread where the pro and con of this issue was discussed in depth on an earlier thread. Did you look at it?

I gave scriptural reference , if you'll go back a bit to page 5, discussing the Holy Spirit as God. Did you read it?

Your argument focuses on the label 'trinity', as if it were important. It really isn't.

What matters is substance, not the label one chooses to affix to an idea.

Your posting of a Hindu trinity really is meaningless. Hindus have other false gods which are not trinities. So what?

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neologist wrote:

Had Jesus been, in fact, God, how do you think he might have answered Satan in the 4th chapter of Matthew?

'Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.' Matt 4:7

That is , in fact, what He did say. Not just what I think He might have said. And quite appropriate that Jesus, as God, would say so, isn't it?

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EpiNirvana wrote:

kate4christ03 wrote:
Christ knew he was going to die even bf the earth was created. Satan is just a fallen angel with no power against Christ..

Firts off i would like to say neologst gave an intresting perpestive here. Next i will use kate's quote to show that she siad that "chirst" was created...intreting.

Also i do believe that The Temptation was a much later added story to show Jesus' nature. This is quite common as where the stoning of the prositute and jesus writing in the sand was never part of the orignal bible but was added much later b/c it was a religious "rumor". There were many examples of this that didnt make the bible such as the story of the clay doves, the story of Jesus ressurecting a boy as a child. Why some made it in and others didnt i dont know. But this is just another example.

I want you to think about this: Jesus went to fast and pray....and Jesus said :dont not pray like the hypocrits.... But what is done in secret your father will reward you" Now concidering that why would Jesus tell his deciples about his meditation (on God) and his temptation, that seams pretty hypocritical and unlikely to me.

Actually what kate4christ said is that the earth was created, not that Christ was created.

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Jesus often prayed in public also. Many other godly men and women of the Old and New Testaments prayed in public. And the Bible states God answered public prayers, thus showing that God did not disapprove.

What Jesus condemned was not the act of public prayer, but the manner in which the Pharisees practiced it.

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Re: TRINITY

real life wrote:

. . . Hi Neo,

Never heard of a binitarian.

Neologists are like that. Smile

I hope you never quit, real life. Our posts are both well written enough (mine more so, of course) that folks should be able to take the arguments to research their own decisions.

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Re: TRINITY

neologist wrote:

real life wrote:
. . . Hi Neo,

Never heard of a binitarian.
Neologists are like that.

I hope you never quit, real life. Our posts are both well written enough (mine more so, of course) that folks should be able to take the arguments to research their own decisions.

You are far too kind.

To both of us. (Just kidding.) Smile

Hope you're having a great night, Neo.

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You ever get to Seattle?

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Not so far, but my brother just moved there several months ago, so ya never know what the future might hold.

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neologist wrote:

Scott777ab wrote:
. . . Neither do you Neo you so called bible believer, who denies the very essence of what it is all about.
You don't believe the Bible, but claim to understand it. In that respect you are very much like Frank. Enjoy your confusion.

Confused is one thing I am not.

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real life wrote:

Jesus often prayed in public also. Many other godly men and women of the Old and New Testaments prayed in public. And the Bible states God answered public prayers, thus showing that God did not disapprove.

What Jesus condemned was not the act of public prayer, but the manner in which the Pharisees practiced it.

Yes, im not arguing that im just saying why would Jesus go pray and fast on his own and then come tell his desiples all about it.

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Scott777ab wrote:

neologist wrote:
Scott777ab wrote:
. . . Neither do you Neo you so called bible believer, who denies the very essence of what it is all about.
You don't believe the Bible, but claim to understand it. In that respect you are very much like Frank. Enjoy your confusion.

Confused is one thing I am not.

Which makes your mental state even less enviable.

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neologist wrote:

Scott777ab wrote:
neologist wrote:
Scott777ab wrote:
. . . Neither do you Neo you so called bible believer, who denies the very essence of what it is all about.
You don't believe the Bible, but claim to understand it. In that respect you are very much like Frank. Enjoy your confusion.

Confused is one thing I am not.
Which makes your mental state even less enviable.

My MENTAL STATE.
Yeah I am mental alright.

I am happy.
I have a decent job.
I have friends who care about me.
Family that cares about me.

What more could I possibility want?

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Epinirvana....if one beleives the scripture in the bible, it states all scripture is God breathed...So Christ didnt have to go back and relate his 40 days in the wilderness to the apostles per say...After his death, God would have places that and all incidents on the hearts of the writers of scripture. Like for example, MOses wasn't around when the garden of eden was created nor for that matter when the flood came, Yet he wrote down what God told him to write....

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kate4christ03 wrote:

Epinirvana....if one beleives the scripture in the bible, it states all scripture is God breathed...So Christ didnt have to go back and relate his 40 days in the wilderness to the apostles per say...After his death, God would have places that and all incidents on the hearts of the writers of scripture. Like for example, MOses wasn't around when the garden of eden was created nor for that matter when the flood came, Yet he wrote down what God told him to write....

There is a major diffence in Moses and Jesus here, Adam and Eve would have told there children the begining of the world, then cain would have told his children and his granchildren....and moses after many generations of storys would have writen it down. Like the stoning of the prostitute story which has been proven to be writen after the death of the disiples, this one is too. It was simply a parable on what Jesus might have been like. But im sure Jesus had other tempatations, more human ones.

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Epi the apostles wrote this story after Christ's death but not before their death lol......we christians believe all scripture is given by God (God breathed) so we believe that this story and others in the bible were given specifically from God to men to write down...........and that they are absolutely true

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kate4christ03 wrote:

Epi the apostles wrote this story after Christ's death but not before their death lol......we christians believe all scripture is given by God (God breathed) so we believe that this story and others in the bible were given specifically from God to men to write down...........and that they are absolutely true

well it looks like we both are unwilling to sway, so you can believe your "truth" as i will mine.

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kate4christ03 wrote:

we christians believe all scripture is given by God (God breathed) so we believe that this story and others in the bible were given specifically from God to men to write down...........and that they are absolutely true

Wrong. Your particular group of Christians believe all scripture to be given by God. There are others that do not.

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No wolf im pretty sure all christians are the same.

*oh waht....oh..ok.mhmm..*

i was just alerted that the catholics say the bible might be faulty, the exact ppl who cannonized the bible...

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epi ok....... just know my truth is right yours is wrong lol Laughing

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wolf...anyone who is truly a born again christian believes the bible is innerant and infallible...the rest are just liberals Evil or Very Mad

....lol

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Not passive agresive at all...hehehe.

A book filled with lies and speculation taken from pagan gods and then someone comes and teaches the world on ethics and world are then miconstrude to make him looks like God himslef incarnated as a human to sheld his blood so that we can be given eternal life and become like a diety....Sounds alot like a Satanist dream cult to trick half the world into a firey hell to me....and just so theres no hard feelings: Laughing

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