Zionists planned 9/11

In Lidda, in Ramla, in the Galilee,
we shall remain
like a wall upon your chest,
and in your throat
like a shrad of glass,
a cactus thron,
and in your eyes
a sandstorm.

We shall remain
a wall upon your chest,
clean dishes in your restaurants,
serve drinks in your bars,
sweep the floors of your kitchens
to snatch a bite for our children
from your blue fangs.

Here we shall stay,
sing our songs,
take to the angry streets,
fill prisons with dignity.

In Lidda, in Ramla, in the galilee,
we shall remain,
guard the shade of the fig
and olive trees,
ferment rebellion in our children
as yeast in the dough.

-Tawfig Zayyad

Why would zionist who are trying to make a home land for themselves on the graves of their fellow human beings, wish to carry out 9/11, thats just stupid.

And why do people propogate this crap?

No, but it would likely confirm my suspicions.

Apparently lots of folks are thinking the same thing, now that the flag waving patriot sheeple are rethinking the 'war' in Iraq.

Here's a short excerpt from 'Loose Change':

This is where you'll find all the information you need on Loose Change, the independent documentary that has grown from a cult following to a grassroots organism that can no longer be contained.

The central premise of Loose Change is that the United States Government was, at the very least, criminially negligent in allowing the attacks of September 11th, 2001 to occur.

However, when one looks deeper into the evidence, one might come to the startling conclusion that our own government might have been directly responsible for the attacks themselves.

Loose Change merely scratches the surface of information that points to a massive government cover-up regarding 9/11. We highly encourage you to take it upon yourself to research the events of 9/11 for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

Loose Change is currently in two editions, with a third being developed for American theaters, intended to be released in 2007.

stevewonder -
Just a comment - for someone who just asked me a couple of posts back 'what's a zionist' you certainly seem to have become an expert in a very short time.

You don't wish to educate yourself or read about zionism. When you don't know anything about a subject you have no right to call it crap.

Well i was giving you the chance to explain you line of thought, dont get defensive.
But i just dont see the need or connection between 'zionists' and what happened in 9/11.

I think Israel is more concerned with killing people in its own backyard.

Did I say 'own'?
I meant stolen, did I say stolen? yes I did.

Who did the Zionists steal the land from? Who was there before it was handed to the Jews in 1947?

The Arabs. There were over 700,000 Arabs living there.

Now do you see a connection? The Jews hate the Arabs. Anything they can do to discredit them they will do. Stirring up worldwide hatred of Muslims/Arabs is one of their goals; 9/11 accomplished that. It also prompted America to begin an unwise war against Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 as some Americans are slowly discovering. (Iraq also had no WMD's. Now the Zionists are picking on Iran even though Iran is not doing anything illegal. See www.energybulletin.net, or gbr.pepperdine.edu, or standford.edu or wikipedia.org for info on what the hubbub is about with Iran. It's a bit more than what you hear on American newscasts) Back to the subject:

Israel would like to see the countries surrounding it castrated as far as having WMD's, and with the US's help they are doing that. Israel, however, has WMD's but is not held accountable for how much enriched uranium they have or when they detonate a bomb. They have not signed a No Proliferation Treaty, (NPT) meaning they are stockpiling WMD's. They practice terror on the Palestinians and should be considered a rogue nation. Why does America bow before the state of Israel? Why were those Jews laughing and dancing when the Towers came down? (see first few pages of this thread)........and why were they released?

If you do some searching, stevewonder, I am certain you will come up with a few questions yourself. The connection between 9/11 and the Zionists is there.

9/11, lies, Zionists
www.whatreallyhappened.com


9/11 - ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX?

The time has come to stop using the flag as a blindfold, to stop waving our guns and our gods at each other, to take a close look at the facts which have emerged from the attacks on the World Trade Towers and to recognize the very real possibility, indeed probability, that We The People are the victims of a gigantic and deadly hoax.
In a normal terrorist event, the terrorists cannot wait to take credit, in order to link the violence to the socio-political intent of the terrorist organization. Yet the prime suspect in the New York Towers case, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden (whose brother was one of George W. Bush's Texas business partners), has issued only two statements regarding the September 11th attacks, and both of those are denials of any involvement.

Huge problems are emerging in the official view of events. It's known that the United States was planning an invasion of Afghanistan long before the attacks on the World Trade Towers. Indeed the attacks on the World Trade Towers perfectly fit the timetable of an invasion by October stated by US officials just last summer.

The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by the FBI don't point to Afghanistan. They come from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates; all across the middle east without a focus in any one region. Indeed, even as the FBI was admitting that its list of 19 names was based solely on identifications thought to have been forged, Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Saudi Al-Faisal insisted that an investigation in Saudi Arabia showed that the 5 Saudi men were not aboard the four jet liners that crashed in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on September 11. "It was proved that five of the names included in the FBI list had nothing to do with what happened," Al-Faisal told the Arabic Press in Washington after meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush at the White House. A sixth identified hijacker is also reported to still be alive in Tunisia, while a 7th named man died two years ago!

The 19 names of suspected hijackers released by the FBI don't even appear on the passenger lists of the hijacked planes. Check it out for yourself - here's the full list of alleged hijackers along with the passenger manifests.

CNN reported that the men who hijacked those aircraft were using phony IDs, using the names of real people still living in Arab nations in the middle east.

In another development, the BBC is reporting that the transcript of a phone call made by Flight Attendant Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air traffic controls shows that the flight attendant gave the seat numbers occupied by the hijackers, seat numbers which were NOT the seats of the men the FBI claimed were responsible for the hijacking!

FBI Chief Robert Mueller admitted on September 20 and on September 27 that at this time the FBI has no legal proof to prove the true identities of the suicidal hijackers. Yet in the haste to move forward on the already planned war in Afghanistan, our government and the FBI (which does not have the best record for honesty in investigations to begin with, having been caught rigging lab tests, manufacturing testimony in the Vincent Foster affair, and illegally withholding/destroying evidence in the Oklahoma Bombing case) are not taking too close a look at evidence that points away from the designated suspect, ex(?) CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.

In particular, the FBI, too busy harassing political dissenters to find spies in its midst, the long rumored mole inside the White House, or plug leaks in high-tech flowing to foreign nations, has willfully and criminally ignored the implications of some vital pieces of information the FBI is itself waving around at the public.

We are being told that this crack team of terrorists, able to breeze past airport security as if it wasn't there, wound up leaving so much evidence in its wake that the bumbling Inspector Clouseau (or the FBI) could not fail to stumble over it. The locations where the terrorists supposedly stayed are so overloaded with damning materials that they resemble less a crimes scene, and more a "B" detective movie set, with vital clues always on prominent display for the cameras.

Yet another problem lies with the described actions of the hijackers themselves. We are being told on the one hand that these men were such fanatical devotees of their faith that they willingly crashed the jets they were flying into buildings. Yet on the other hand, we are being told that these same men spent the night before their planned visit to Allah drinking in strip bars, committing not just one, but two mortal sins which would keep them out of Paradise no matter what else they did. Truly devout Muslims would spend the day before a suicide attack fasting and praying. Not only does the drinking in strip bars not fit the profile of a fanatically religious Muslim willing to die for his cause, but the witness reports of the men in the bars are of men going out of their way to be noticed and remembered, while waving around phony identifications.

Because of the facts of the phony identifications, we don't really know who was on those planes. What we do know is that the men on those planes went to a great deal of trouble to steal the identities of Muslims, and to make sure those identities were seen and remembered, then to leave a plethora of planted clues around, such as crop dusting manuals, and letters in checked baggage (why does a terrorist about to die need to check baggage?) that "somehow" didn't get on the final, fatal, flight.

Fake terror is nothing new. According to recently released files, our government planned Operation NORTHWOODS to stage phony terror attacks against American citizens in the wake of the Bay Of Pigs, to anger Americans into support for a second invasion of Cuba. The plan was spiked by JFK. If our government has ever actually carried out such plans to stage phony terror attacks, the documents have remained classified. But given the reality of Operation NORTHWOODS, or the manner in which FDR maneuvered Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor, one cannot rule out the possibility that, once again, the people of the United States are being lied to by their own government, to manufacture consent for a war of invasion already being discussed with other nations the previous summer.

It is also quite possible, indeed likely, that the United States is being spoofed by a third party to trigger a war. It has happened before. According to Victor Ostrovsky, a defector from Israel's secret service, Mossad, Israel decided to mount a false flag operation designed to further discredit Libya, and provoke the US to attack an Arab nation. A transmitter loaded with pre-recorded messages was planted in Tripoli, Libya, by a Mossad team.

The `Trojan Horse' beamed out fake messages about Libyan-authorized bombings and planned attacks that were immediately intercepted by US electronic monitoring. Convinced by this disinformation that Libya was behind the 1986 bombing of a Berlin disco in which a US soldier died, President Ronald Reagan ordered massive air attacks on Libya, including an obvious- and illegal (under US law) attempt to assassinate Qadaffi himself. Some 100 Libyan civilians were killed, including Qadaffi's two year old daughter. Libyan officials had no idea why they were attacked.

It is worth remembering the motto of the Mossad is, "By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

Whether they were involved in the attacks or not, it cannot be doubted that Israel has benefited from the attacks in New York. While world attention is focused on what the US will do in Afghanistan, Israel has escalated its attacks against Palestinians towns. Israel has repeatedly tried to claim that Palestinians were involved in the New York attacks, hoping to bury the Palestinian cause under the rubble of the World Trade Towers.

Because of the faked IDs and stolen identities, we don't really know who planned the World Trade Towers attacks. We only know who they wanted us to blame.

And we know that the United States has been tricked in the past into bombing someone who did not deserve the attack, and that those who were bombed then embarked on what from their point of view was justified retaliation that culminated over Lockerbie. And while bombs were falling and planes were crashing, Israel was laughing at us that we had been so easily fooled into bombing Israel's targets for them.

Are we being hoaxed again, by Israel, or by our own government, or by both? It's impossible to rule that out. Right now there are a lot of people who want war. Oil companies want Afghanistan's petroleum products. Our corporations want "friendlier" markets. The CIA wants all that opium. And all those war-mongers, with all their greed and agendas, will not hesitate in the least to pour your tax dollars and your children's blood all over Afghanistan, to get those "friendlier" markets, oil, and opium.

Because of the vested interests at work here, American citizens must, more than at any other time in recent history, rely on themselves to decide what is happening in our nation. Too many of those who purport to report the "truth" to us are eager to grab more tax money and more children to pour into a war of invasion, poised at a region which has swallowed up every army that has tried to conquer it since the time of Alexander The Great.

And one more thing. Take a good look at the map of Eurasia and plot out where the United States has military deployments. They march in a straight line through the middle of Eurasia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenia, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan.

The United States is prepared to cut the Russian Federation off from the oil rich middle east, and to control transportation routes from China and India into the Middle East. When Russia realizes that this is the real agenda, that's when "Dubya Dubya Three" will really get going!

POSTSCRIPT: Looks like the cat is out of the bag. See http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/10/08/17401.html

Logo of the Mossad:

Top: "kee betachbulot ta'ase lecha milchama"
Translation: "By way of deception thou shalt do war"
Bottom: "Ha'Mossad Le'modiein"
Translation: "The institute for the collection of Information"
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Palestinians seek U.N. action on Israeli "terrorism"

2 hours, 59 minutes ago

By Irwin Arieff

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - A Palestinian official accused Israel on Thursday of "state terrorism" in an attack in Gaza that killed 18 civilians and said Israeli apologies for such incidents were insincere and no longer acceptable.

"This is terrorism, this is state terrorism," Palestinian U.N. Observer Riyad Mansour told an emergency Security Council meeting. "These are war crimes for which the perpetrators must be held accountable under international law."

But an Israeli diplomat insisted Wednesday's deadly shelling in Beit Hanoun had been accidental. Israel was "deeply saddened" by it and doing its utmost to avoid a repetition, Israeli envoy Daniel Carmon said.

"Although the Palestinian civilians killed in this incident may have been killed by Israeli fire, they are in fact the victims of Hamas terrorism," Carmon added, referring to the militant movement heading the elected Palestinian government, which refuses to recognize Israel or renounce violence.

"If Qassam rockets stopped sailing out of Gaza into Israel, the incident in Beit Hanoun would never have happened," he said.

The council met at the request of the 22-member Arab League, the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference and the 116-nation Non-Aligned Movement after what Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert referred to as "a technical failure," but which Palestinian leaders have called a massacre.

Arab states pressed the council to adopt a resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and a U.N. observer force to enforce the ceasefire, as was done in southern Lebanon after the 34-day war between Israel and Lebanon's Hezbollah that ended in August.

U.S. VETO?

Since the end of June, more than 450 Palestinians had been killed in the Gaza strip, "making death, mourning and grief a near-daily ritual for the people of Gaza," Mansour said. While Israel apologized after each such incident, it was "with a forked tongue" even as military attacks continued.

But council members said the draft text needed rewriting, and envoys agreed to meet again on Friday to discuss possible changes, with a vote unlikely before next week.

Even then, the United States, Israel's closest ally, was likely to veto the measure as Washington routinely opposes council intervention in the Middle East as ineffective in ending the cycle of violence there, the diplomats said.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States understood the deaths were an issue "that people want to talk about in the Security Council, although the Security Council is not traditionally the forum where Israeli-Palestinian issues are resolved."

"We don't think that any sort of one-sided resolutions are really the most productive way to address this issue," he said.

The 18 dead, including seven children and four women, were buried at a mass funeral in Gaza on Thursday. Some Hamas lawmakers have threatened to resume suicide attacks on Israel.

Angela Kane, the U.N. assistant secretary-general for political affairs, said a government of national unity was the best way to work toward Palestinian law and order.

But the Israeli attack had led to a suspension of talks on a new government, she said, urging both Palestinians and Israelis to "pause and reflect on the fact that the conflict between them will not be resolved by force."
END

And we KNOW who controls policy in Washington DC: the Zionists- who's aim is to protect Israel. The government-within-a-government. Is it going to take America awhile to wake up to this fact, just as it did with the 'war' in Iraq? America needs to take back their country from the Zionist Jews who are using you for their own purposes.

If you don't believe me look up some online resources or go to your library. Here is one source: us.altermedia.into concerning how the Zionists control media which includes radio, publications, seminars......they are ubiquitous, like a disease.

Anyone see the cowman interview on fox?
Is it me or did the host have an agenda?
I know conspiracy theorists are nutz but you dont need to start foaming at the mouth about them.

No. I don't watch Fox. I prefer BBC and World News to Fox's myopic view.

Don't know.

Some so called conspiracy theories turn out to be right. Some are just conspiracy theories.

No one is foaming at the mouth. Just posting articles related to the topic. You cannot deny that the zionists control much of the media and have a powerful lobby in Washington DC. That's easy enough to look up, if you're really interested. Just type in a few zionist/jew names with 'zionist' attached and see what you come up with.

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TO DEFEND Israel today is to be either callous or wilfully ignorant.

How did the Arabs get there?

They've been there since the beginning of time. They are the Canaanites that Moses tried to exterminate.

That's funny but they can't be Arabs and Canaanites. Arabs are from Arabia, not Palestine. The Arabs came to Palestine in the 7th century when the Prophet Mohammed's armies conquered it by force in the name of Islam. Payback's a bitch.

i still not convinced there is a connection

Ohgod. Dear Mr. Nitpicky: Arabs, Lebanese, Oriental Jews, and Canaanites are all Semitic people. When the Arabs conquered the Holy Land they did not remove the people. They tolerated the Christians and Jews and encouraged peaceful coexistance while they administered and eventually intermarried. Note: the center of the Islamic world quickly shifted to Damascus which, of course, is Assyrian, just as Turkey is Turkic, just as Babylon was Persian.

The Arabs took Palestine from the Greeks in the 7th C. who had inherited it from the Romans, who had been the ones that had removed the Jews in the first place, returning it back to the Canaanites who were there before Moses.

So what if they didn't remove them. They conquered it by force, killed any resisters and imposed a foreign religion on the people. If by peaceful coexistence you mean that Jews and Christians had to either convert to Islam or live in servitude, then yes they "coexisted peacefully."

So what are you saying, that the current-day "Palestinians" are the original Canaanites? That is a stretch. The bottom line is, the Arabs and the religion of Islam are foreign to Palestine. Jews and Christians ruled Palestine for centuries before Islam was even invented.

Yes by all means, stretch your mind.

Palestinians call themselves Canaanites often..who are you to make the decision whether they are, or not?

Christians and Jews were not living in servitude.

Unlike the Jews who were forced into ghettos by the Christians, or kicked out of SPain, England and Russia- Jews and Christians intermarried and worked within Islamic society.

Ok. Why? What proof do you need?

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They can call themselves whatever they want, but that doesn't mean it's true. The "Palestinians" are a clusterf**k of different ethnicities, one of them perhaps being Canaanite. That doesn't make the entire people "indigenous" and it sure as hell doesn't mean that the foreign religion of Islam has a monopoly on the Holy Land, as many Muslims believe.


I could ask you the same thing.


So you deny the Islamic concept of dhimmitude? Until relatively recently, Christians and Jews living in Islamic societies were considered second-class citizens, or dhimmi. They were forced to pay a special tax and were excluded from many aspects of the society. You seem to have an overly beneveolent view of Islam.

No more benevolent that your negative view of Islam.

Jews have historically been treated better by Moslems than 'Christian' Europeans.