Political Correctness: Make a Judgment

Right. That's why the caricature along with all comments have been removed from huffingtonpost where it was originally posted.

Just a little harmless 'race-baiting' by the Dems. No need to apologize.

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SierraSong wrote:

Right. That's why the caricature along with all comments have been removed from huffingtonpost where it was originally posted.

Just a little harmless 'race-baiting' by the Dems. No need to apologize.

Democrats are idiots, too. Must be why the majority of African Americans vote for them, right?

In any event, the illustration is tasteless, further proving my point. Thanx for playing. I think it's f**king hysterical when conservatives yell "racism" when they can't even condemn their own for the same thing.

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Dookiestix wrote:

Democrats are idiots, too. Must be why the majority of African Americans vote for them, right?

Because they're stupid? If you say so.

Of course, if they want to see what it's like to win, they could always vote for Republicans Smile

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SierraSong wrote:

Dookiestix wrote:
Democrats are idiots, too. Must be why the majority of African Americans vote for them, right?

Because they're stupid? If you say so.

Of course, if they want to see what it's like to win, they could always vote for Republicans

Unfortunately, you completely missed the point. I never said they were stupid. But suggesting that they should vote Republican so they can see what it's like to "win" seems to subtely suggest something. I'll leave it up to you to figure that one out.

Then perhaps you can enlighten us as to what African Americans would gain by voting Republican, assuming they would actually win. Have you missed the polls lately?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2191919

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/14/AR2006071400217_pf.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/14/republicans.appoll.ap/

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/the06fix/index.php?id=131

I'd say African Americans would be quite smart to vote Democrat this time around. You apparently seem to feel otherwise.

And why is it that not a single African American Republican is in Congress? Although, to be fair right now, a Republican of ANY race, creed and/or color should realize how horrible this election year looks for them.

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Why do I think they should vote Republican? I doubt all of them believe in high taxes, state-run healthcare, gun control, multiculturism and abortion.

I could be wrong, though Smile

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Really> I hadn't looked into before. Not a single one?

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SierraSong wrote:

Why do I think they should vote Republican? I doubt all of them believe in high taxes, state-run healthcare, gun control, multiculturism and abortion.

I could be wrong, though

Um, because it's all about winning? Rolling Eyes

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Dookie--

If you think there aren't racist elements in the Democrat party--white and black racists--you lose credibility. Move beyond white hats and black hats.

Some of the things you said are true, IMO, but you negate it by pretending one group of people is the baddie.

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There are many other examples of politicians eing accused of being racist because other people dont know the meaning of words.

As an example...
http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm

"Washington, DC's black Mayor, Anthony Williams, gladly accepted the resignation of his white staff member, David Howard, because Mr. Howard uttered the word 'niggardly' in a private staff meeting.

Webster's Tenth Edition defines the word 'niggardly' to "grudgingly mean about spending or granting". The Barnhard Dictionary of Etymology traces the origins of 'niggardly' to the 1300's, and to the words 'nig' and 'ignon', meaning "miser" in Middle English. No where in any of these references is any mention of racial connotations associated with the word 'niggardly'."

So here is one example of people getting offended,not because of what was actually said,but because of what they THINK was said.
They CHOSE to get offended.

That is the case with the term "tar baby".
People CHOOSE to get offended,so they do.

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The niggardly thing was stupid.

Crappy aspect of PC #8784374:

The high profile, screechy tenor of the firestorm removes all ability for the two (or more) groups to calmly discuss the gulf between their meanings of what they said and heard.

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Lash wrote:

The niggardly thing was stupid.

Crappy aspect of PC #8784374:

The high profile, screechy tenor of the firestorm removes all ability for the two (or more) groups to calmly discuss the gulf between their meanings of what they said and heard.

I dont understand your meaning.

Was me using that example stupid,or was that whole incident stupid?

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Lash wrote:

Dookie--

If you think there aren't racist elements in the Democrat party--white and black racists--you lose credibility. Move beyond white hats and black hats.

Some of the things you said are true, IMO, but you negate it by pretending one group of people is the baddie.

Wrong. I already pointed out how some Democrats are just as bad. Perhaps you missed that when I addressed the example from the Huffington post.

But I still wait to hear why there is not a single African American Republican in Congress.

Every single reason I've heard from the Right has been self-serving. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

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No, MM. I don't have any reason to speak to you like that--even if I did disagree. And, I didn't. Sorry I wasn't clear. Very Happy

I happen to agree with you about the hoohah surrounding "niggardly." I had known the definition, and felt like I was in some freaky alternative universe when people completely glossed over the meaning of the word and acted as though it was something else.

Ignorance drives many herds.

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Dookiestix wrote:

But there is an obvious racist element within the Republican party, and this is why the term in question has primarily been uttered by those on the RIGHT, not the left.

Why do you think the Republican party cannot attract more African American voters? I'll tell you, because it's really quite simple; the Republican party still caters to their racist constituents. They float these terms out there to show that they are still on their side, and it is subtle, for that is the state of insititutionalized bigotry today. Why do you think not a single African American Republican is currently in Congress?

As long as idiots like Tony Snow and others on the Right continue to throw these terms out as a subtle nod to their racist elements of the GOP, the less support the Republican party can expect from the African American community. Believe or not, the African American community is smart enough to know this. Add to that voter disenfranchisement, Hurricane Katrina, the hypocrisy from the GOP when it comes to the minimum wage, and many other enforced disparities by the ruling party in Washington, and you have ample reasons for why the GOP cannot be trusted when it comes to the best interests of the African American community.

Dookie,

This post made your accusations seem quite one-sided.

I think there are a few reasons blacks don't think of joing the GOP as an option.

1. They have been brainwashed for decades that Republicans are rich, racist and exclusive. This is a daily, ingrained talking point of the Democrat party.

2. The GOP economic theory is to support business, and business will support citizens. The Dems hand out more to social programs, and blacks, generally, strongly favor the latter, and consider the former as a personal affront. They consider the difference in these two economic policies a sign that Republicans are racist and greedy.

3. You are viciously harassed and ostracized by the black community if you are a Republican.

4. The Democrat party promises the black community money and favorable changes.

5. The Democrat party uses race as a wedge issue.

These are the first ones I thought of.

There are likely some failings of the GOP in this area, but I don't know quite how to frame them.

It's hard to attract people when the other person is giving them more stuff, and you're not going to change your entire economic policy to get more votes.

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I remember niggardly as meaning niggardly, y'know, with no overtones. I don't know if I was missing something, I'm not so savvy on word history as some here. Words do get taken over in common usage and I might argue that in general words don't just dive to some dastardly meaning.

People with vastly more background than myself can enrich our knowledge of the background of words and phrases.

Still, it depends. I don't want to out and out offend a person whom I am trying to just talk to.

This isn't all re race or ethnicity.. it can have to do with age or gender.

Mostly, I prefer to just talk and ask. But some take offense easily re other's stupidity, insensitivity, lack of clue, etc. Sometimes they're right to be pissed. Sometimes people just need, y'know, a clue.

I say this while I want old word usage to be retained, mostly. Don't want us all talking within the same 500 words.

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quoting myself -
I don't want to out and out offend a person whom I am trying to just talk to.

I'd like to hear feedback re the nuances of what I say, even if I get huffy.
We all do a lot of presuming - well, some more than others, people like Thomas and JoefromChicago really look with eagle eyes at their words -
though they have their stratification of mind as well... way more organized than a lot of us.

We learn by hearing reaction. We may argue at the time, and still take note.

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ossobuco wrote:

quoting myself -
I don't want to out and out offend a person whom I am trying to just talk to.

I'd like to hear feedback re the nuances of what I say, even if I get huffy.
We all do a lot of presuming - well, some more than others, people like Thomas and JoefromChicago really look with eagle eyes at their words -
though they have their stratification of mind as well... way more organized than a lot of us.

We learn by hearing reaction. We may argue at the time, and still take note.

You speak volumes about yourself when you mention that you listen for reactions, osso. Seems to me the only sane and compassionate way to go. For example, if the word "bitch" carried particular hurtfulness for the person I was talking with, I could abstain from its use while talking to them - even in a setting wherein it would be appropriate - like talking about the mother of some newborn pups. Should I instead make some "principled" stand, and insist on using the word because its my God-given right? Something just ooky there, to me.

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If you usually refer to the mother of newborn pups as a bitch--and your conversation involved mention of a mother of newborn pups, and you used this word naturally in your regular conversation--like a dog breeder would, pointing out "that's the bitch," "thats the sire"-- you aren't doing anyone a favor by falsely changing your speech due to a certain person's presence.

Actually, what you are doing is saying to yourself (and indirectly her) I think you are such a bitch, I have to change my normal speaking patterns to protect you from what I obviously think you are. To me, that is much more of an insult. It's like private agreement with the slur. It's like a guilty mind.

So, are you really getting mad and feeling offense anytime you hear the words, boy, shine and spook? No wonder you're so furious all the time.

I think most people would take note if they noticed they'd inadvertently caused offense.

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Can anyone tell me how shine can be considered offensive?

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Lash wrote:

Can anyone tell me how shine can be considered offensive?

Dang it Lash, do some research. And you're missing the point.
Here, I'll be plain... you are wrong to insist on using words that you know might be insulting, then ranting about those who are insulted. If you're just ignorant about certain words, that's okay. But that's not what we were talking about.

(sigh) I'm not "furious", or "violent", or "angry all the time". I just don't like you, think you're pretty vile, and like seing you prove it all the time.

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